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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:40 AM Jul 2015

Greece debt crisis: IMF attacks EU over bailout terms

Source: BBC

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has fiercely criticised the bailout deal offered to Greece by the eurozone.

It said Greece's public debt was now "highly unsustainable" and urged debt relief on a scale "well beyond what has been under consideration to date".

The IMF told European finance ministers a new bailout should include measures to restructure the country's debt.

The European Commission has now proposed a €7bn (£5bn) "bridging" loan to help Greece pay debt interest.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33531845



Madness.
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Greece debt crisis: IMF attacks EU over bailout terms (Original Post) magical thyme Jul 2015 OP
To help pay the interest!!! LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #1
that which we call the loan shark, by any other name... magical thyme Jul 2015 #4
IMF stuns Europe with call for massive Greek debt relief GliderGuider Jul 2015 #2
does this maybe pave the way for a Grexit magical thyme Jul 2015 #3
If Europe continues to deny debt relief, I don't see any other choice. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #5
Per the Guardian, 90% of former bailout $ went to banks & debt service stuffmatters Jul 2015 #6
Do you have a link to that article? J_J_ Jul 2015 #7
theguardian,inman, where did all the greek bailout money go, june 29, 2015 stuffmatters Jul 2015 #8
Where else would it go? FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #9
then hill2016 Jul 2015 #11
why didn't hill2016 Jul 2015 #10
you'd have to ask them, "hill" magical thyme Jul 2015 #12
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. IMF stuns Europe with call for massive Greek debt relief
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015
IMF stuns Europe with call for massive Greek debt relief

The International Monetary Fund has set off a political earthquake in Europe, warning that Greece may need a full moratorium on debt payments for 30 years and perhaps even long-term subsidies to claw its way out of depression.

"The dramatic deterioration in debt sustainability points to the need for debt relief on a scale that would need to go well beyond what has been under consideration to date,” said the IMF in a confidential report.

Greek public debt will spiral to 200pc of GDP over the next two years, compared to 177pc in an earlier report on debt sustainability issued just two weeks ago.

The findings are explosive. The document amounts to a warning that the IMF will not take part in any EMU-led rescue package for Greece unless Germany and the EMU creditor powers finally agree to sweeping debt relief.

This vastly complicates the rescue deal agreed by eurozone leaders in marathon talks over the weekend since Germany insists that the bail-out cannot go ahead unless the IMF is involved.

The shit is starting to hit the fan, and boy does it stink.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. does this maybe pave the way for a Grexit
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

to default completely on the Eurozone debt, and start over from scratch with assistance from the IMF and perhaps (unknown) others?

The US has a major strategic security interest in Greece not becoming a failed state, and in Greece not turning too heavily to Russia and China.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. If Europe continues to deny debt relief, I don't see any other choice.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jul 2015

This situation is utterly unconscionable. I don't know how the European and American (lookin' at you, Lloyd Blankfein) architects of this catastrophe can sleep at night or look at themselves in the mirror in the morning.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
6. Per the Guardian, 90% of former bailout $ went to banks & debt service
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

Only 10% ever went to the Greek govt or people!
Of prior 240 B
25% to bank 'sweeteners" to arrange the prior bailout/loan
65% to pay interest/service on the debt
10% to Greek govt.

This is how a country is 'invaded." No longer by military but by vampire debt. And how you get the Port of Pireaus & the Acropolis
and any pension money left...it's economic warfare intended to destroy Greek democracy & strip the country of all its assets.


stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
8. theguardian,inman, where did all the greek bailout money go, june 29, 2015
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

I now put " guardian greece bailout" into search to find it again, & the article was the first entry that popped up.

Joseph Stiglitz has also recently referred to this shocking 90% bailout going to the $ed interests.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. Where else would it go?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

The bailout was intended cover their debt and help with their ongoing deficit.

If someone helps to bails me out of my debts, the money would go to the Credit Cards and Banks I owe.

What else would a bail out do? Go to the Greeks to spend?

I don't understand why you would think a debt bailout would go to anyone other than the creditors.

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