Bernie Sanders closes in on Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire

[azurnoir]

Source: NYP

Bernie Sanders has pulled within striking distance of front-runner Hillary Clinton in all-important New Hampshire, a poll of Granite State Democrats revealed on Wednesday.

The former secretary of state is edging Sanders, 42-36, in the survey conducted by the University of New Hampshire for WMUR.

The poll was conducted between July 22 through July 30, with a margin of error of 5.9 percent, meaning Sanders could be in a deadlock with Clinton.

The Vermont senator is benefiting from a 69 percent favorable rating among New Hampshire Democrats, compared to just a 10 percent negative, the poll showed.

While Clinton has a high 73 percent favorable rating among state Democrats, she’s hurt by 19 percent unfavorable mark.

Read more: http://nypost.com/2015/08/05/bernie-sanders-closes-in-on-hillary-clinton-in-new-hampshire/

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[George II]

1. New York Post....

....this is unbelievable "spin" or "denial":

The Vermont senator is benefiting from a 69 percent favorable rating among New Hampshire Democrats, compared to just a 10 percent negative, the poll showed.

While Clinton has a high 73 percent favorable rating among state Democrats, she’s hurt by 19 percent unfavorable mark.


So Clinton has a higher favorability rating, close to 3/4 of those responding "favorable" this article spins it against her anyway.

The differentials are Clinton +54 and Sanders +59 - "within the margin of error"!!!!!

I like where Clinton is in New Hampshire.

[azurnoir]

2. and that makes it untrue?

[George II]

3. It's been discussed all over this site and elsewhere that the right-wing is propping up...

....Sanders and denigrating Clinton because they realize she's the more viable and, to them, "dangerous" opponent.

So they take their poll data and spin it as a negative toward her, even though bottom-line it's better than Sanders' numbers.

[azurnoir]

4. every meme old is new again

[JDPriestly]

5. Where is your evidence for that theory?

The Republicans and independents who are backing are doing so because a) the Republican candidates are horrible, and b) Bernie's message appeals to them.

We shall see how Bernie does in New Hampshire in the primary. I think everyone will be surprised at how well he does.

[George II]

29. Not a theory - there have been analyses posted here from several reputable sources...

...stating exactly that.

But you're right - Sanders' message does indeed appeal to republicans and conservatives. That is scary.

[mwooldri]

36. Scary, how? Good? Bad?

That Bernie is appealing to a wide audience. ... Democrats, Republicans, Independents. ... I don't see anything scary about it whatsoever. His values align with mine. That people are rethinking about which politicians are best aligned with their values is IMO a good thing.

People aligning with Donald Trump. ... now that I find scary because his values don't line up with mine. He seems to have acquired the Tea party base, so not exactly a cross party platform.

At the end of the day, as long as we have someone on the Democratic Party ticket win the general election in November 2016 then we'll be in a good place for the country to go forth and prosper.

[JDPriestly]

40. Why is it scary that Sanders' message appeals o Republicans and conservatives?

Sanders tells it like it is. That appeals to Americans of all political stripes.

Now, to me it is wonderful that Sanders, who identifies himself as a democratic socialist, is appealing to some conservatives. That suggests a shift in the country to a more liberal, fairer, more progressive and socially responsible political view.

From what I read here on DU, Hillary supporters find Bernie scary because he appeals to Republicans and conservatives. They seem to think that makes him less of a Democrat. But then turn right around and say they find him scary because he is too liberal, too progressive -- because he says he is a democratic socialist. That, they claim is scary and on top of it all makes him less of a Democrat.

You can't have it both ways.

Bernie can either be scary because he is too far to the right and pleases conservatives or he too scary because he is too far to the left and is a self-identified democratic socialist.

Maybe the Hillary supporters are just looking for something to be scared about.

Maybe they find Bernie scary because voters of all persuasions find his ideas and points of view and his platform relevant to their lives. That's what I think.

Bernie very directly speaks to the frustrations, hopes and dreams of Americans.

I guess for the "in" crowd, that is pretty scary.

[ismnotwasm]

7. I read about this last night

And it simply isn't that impressive. I expect Sanders numbers to improve, to wax and wane as much as any other candidate.

This excerpt sums it up:

Bernie Sanders Is Narrowing The Gap With Hillary Clinton In The Granite State
-----While the new poll is likely to boost the hopes of Sanders supporters, the numbers remain mostly unchanged from other New Hampshire polls in recent months, which show Sanders narrowing his gap with Clinton but still trailing. And despite his growing support, 68 percent of those surveyed said Clinton would win the New Hampshire primary in February, while only 17 percent said Sanders. A majority of respondents said that Clinton also has the best chance of winning the general election and that she has the “right experience to be president.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire_55c15303e4b0f7f0bebae9cb?section=politics

[freshwest]

13. This is what it all boils down to in the end:

A majority of respondents said that Clinton also has the best chance of winning the general election and that she has the “right experience to be president.”

[ismnotwasm]

18. Yup

Sure does

[Scootaloo]

9. That's funny

'Cause on DU, it's the other way around.

[geek tragedy]

28. whose side do you think is going to be more eager to turn out to vote? nt

[SoapBox]

6. Go Bernie!

Glad you posted this, since the other post got locked.

As I said on the other post about this, I expect the usual outrage that the polls are irrelevant...unless they are favorable to The Annointed One.

[Lancero]

31. Jury results, 2-5 leave

Go Bernie!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1167819

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This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

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Referring to the leading DEMOCRATIC candidate at this time as "The Anointed One" is offensive and out of line.

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It's a satirical take oh the current status of DU.
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[AzDar]

8. Bernie!!

[Thinkingabout]

10. We are lucky to have elections to determine who gets the most votes, almost does not win.

[onehandle]

11. He has a chance to win one state.

Period.

[Ed Suspicious]

12. And another. And another. And another. etc.

Period.

[George II]

16. Kind of reminds me of this:

[freshwest]

32. I never found any offense in that event. He didn't attack his competitors, though, AFAIK. n/t

[George II]

15. Vermont?

[onehandle]

21. Freedonia. nt

[cosmicone]

24. People's Republic of DUstan n/t

[George II]

30. THAT was funny!

[freshwest]

33. More like Cascadia...

Well, it *could* happen, IDK...

[okasha]

14. In short, nothing has really changed since June,

and Hillary may well be beating Sanders by 12% instead of six, which would be more consistent with his high-teens to mid-twenties in other polls.

And the photoshopped picture of Hillary is just peeeethetic!

[George II]

17. That's the way I see it - the "margin of error" works both ways...

....to some it's a statistical dead heat, to others its a statistical runaway.

[okasha]

19. Come to think of it,

Bernie's had a few years trimmend off his photo. His hair's been shopped, but the pic as a whole was shot with what's called "glamour lighting,". a strong light straight-on that makes wrinkles go away, and a "hair light" that washes out redness and age spots on the dome.

[George II]

20. Interesting observations....

....my first observation was that they included a picture of Clinton almost scowling but a picture of Sanders grinning. Subtle bias.

They should have used this picture:

[okasha]

22. It:s meant to read

"Hillary is old and mean/ Bernie's younger and a real nice guy.".

They overdid it badly, though, and if you're a photog, it hits you right in the face.

[George II]

27. Leo Durocher*: "Nice guys finish last."

*Manager of my beloved BROOKLYN Dodgers!

[freshwest]

34. I didn't find the bias of the photos subtle at all. Like RWers use an awful pic of the Democrat. n/t

[George II]

35. I was trying to be nice....

[William769]

23. Oy vey.

I used to know smart people here. I'll be glad when Hillary locks up the nomination and this nonsense stops.

I am actually embarrassed with some of the stuff I end up reading here.

[George II]

37. When that happens (i.e., Hillary gets annointed) this site will become a ghost town.

[cosmicone]

25. Meh. Small, mostly white neighboring state .. and he's still trailing n/t

[Gamecock Lefty]

26. Closes In?

He should be leading in what is pretty much east Vermont! Not good for King Bernie!

[SunSeeker]

39. The poll is statistically identical to the last UNH poll.

From the article itself:

The last UNH poll of Granite State Democrats was in late June when Clinton led Sanders, 43-35 with a 5.2-percent margin of error.

So after a month of feverish Bernie rallies and Hillary being pilloried by the NY Times, all Bernie managed to do was move up a point, where the margin of error is 5.9 points. PPFFFTT.

[madville]

38. Let's see what happens after the first debate or two

I want to see Hillary and Bernie in some debates.

Add Biden to the mix and Hillary's lead in several places might disappear quickly.