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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:28 PM Aug 2015

Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Rally

Source: Seattle Times

Originally published August 8, 2015 at 3:22 pm

Black Lives Matter interrupted the planned rally for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders at Westlake Park on Saturday afternoon. Sanders left without addressing the crowd.

By Jim Brunner
Seattle Times political reporter

Protesters on behalf of Black Lives Matter interrupted the planned rally for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Saturday afternoon.

The rally at Seattle’s Westlake Park, drawing a massive crowd, ended around 3 p.m. with the Vermont senator choosing to leave after protesters went up on the stage and stayed there, controlling the microphone. As he was exiting and greeting supporters, he asked that they attend the 7 p.m. rally at Hec Edmundson Pavilion.

Read more: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

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Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Rally (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2015 OP
Good, good. He chooses to listen. Too bad you are too weak to shut down the Republicans, but jtuck004 Aug 2015 #1
I would like to know who is behind this...why berny... has he ever said they don't matter??? movonne Aug 2015 #40
People who are more interested in feeding their egos than solving the problems. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #53
Follow the money. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #161
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #227
Free Speech Matters too bluestateguy Aug 2015 #2
It accomplishes anger in 840high Aug 2015 #16
Totally! Bubzer Aug 2015 #177
Gotta agree. Had I been there, with vegetables, I might have thrown it. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #190
bernie has the patience of a saint questionseverything Aug 2015 #3
They officially spoke at the event earlier???? arcane1 Aug 2015 #10
earlier it was a man that said he was local blm (i didn't get his name) questionseverything Aug 2015 #15
This is why I read DU. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #43
i was really hoping to see him speak questionseverything Aug 2015 #59
Most of earlier speakers PoC? SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #68
another poster said.... questionseverything Aug 2015 #88
Well, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #105
she is a founder according to this questionseverything Aug 2015 #113
Ah - I didn't hit "more" the first time. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #131
He needs Secret Service. glinda Aug 2015 #136
Thank you for this! HappyPlace Aug 2015 #114
Did the rep. speak on BLM only or SS & Medicare also? This is significant, thanks. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #222
he explained why ss is so important to black seniors questionseverything Aug 2015 #225
Great, I hope we learn who this local Seattle BLM rep. is and see him in the video. Thanks. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #226
Nope only Hillary and Biden get that former FLOTUS and current VPOTUS azurnoir Aug 2015 #11
Then something needs to change. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #78
President Obama has the authority to order Secret Service protection for totodeinhere Aug 2015 #96
Yes, for President Obama when he was compaigning. jwirr Aug 2015 #102
Caught 2 speakers incl. Kshama Sawant before Bernie, good to know a local BLM rep. spoke earlier. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #13
Seattle "Social Security & Medicare Rally" featuring Sen. Bernie Sanders was the event title appalachiablue Aug 2015 #22
the lady in the purple dress (didnt catch the name) was excellent nt msongs Aug 2015 #34
I must have start the live feed after that.... daleanime Aug 2015 #57
I did not see that when I was watching. Are you telling us that BLM had a part in this event other jwirr Aug 2015 #66
having watched the event, a few thoughts... msongs Aug 2015 #4
What does it tell us when unarmed black folks are being shot and dying in the street, another jtuck004 Aug 2015 #7
True, and I think Bernie has the right approach. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #55
You just have to watch the video to see their intend..... daleanime Aug 2015 #61
So, they didn't interrupt anyone but Bernie passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #106
Exactly..... daleanime Aug 2015 #110
Maybe they should take it up with POTUS and DOJ. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #166
DING DING DING! Msongs, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Aug 2015 #38
They made it quite clear that us liberal are all racists. The only group in the country that is on jwirr Aug 2015 #89
Why? MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #140
My mixed race family get it also. I am sick because this is not going to solve anything. jwirr Aug 2015 #209
Yep. Turning on their allies is a bizarre tactic. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #169
Okay. We can ignore them. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #197
I wonder how right wing incivility is so much more influential than alp227 Aug 2015 #163
Oh, so now this is on Bernie? Oh, well-played, indeed, But fail. djean111 Aug 2015 #56
Hillary earned that secret service through her position as yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #65
I meant that he should get his own security. I really don't care about how Hillary got hers. n/t djean111 Aug 2015 #69
Well not quite I understand that President Obama got SS protection early while he was running jwirr Aug 2015 #94
True but it was well after Super Tuesday yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #202
I suspect that Bernie will not request it because he does not want to be the reason these kids jwirr Aug 2015 #211
Wasn't the event ended before he got a chance to speak? That is what I heard from someone jwirr Aug 2015 #83
a bunch of fucking idiots. bowens43 Aug 2015 #5
+ one million. And you've got enough posts to not be called a "troll" 7962 Aug 2015 #144
Good luck with that shenmue Aug 2015 #178
they screwed themselves. couldn't be more counterproductive cali Aug 2015 #213
This is jaw dropping irrationality at it's worst. V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #6
BLM folks should realize by now African Americans underthematrix Aug 2015 #8
Why should they not support Sanders? Throd Aug 2015 #25
Because they've drank the kool-ade, of a false image, who does she do for ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #31
Actually there are African Americans who are supporting Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #33
Te poll I saw said 80% support Clinton. jalan48 Aug 2015 #149
most not going to come out for her if she is the nominee Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #156
I don't believe that for even one moment. Many African Americans don't know Bernie very well totodeinhere Aug 2015 #100
Who are they gonna support? RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #139
BLM called people in the crowd “white supremacist liberals” for asking them to let Sanders speak? azurnoir Aug 2015 #9
That's not protesting, nor is it heckling. That's trolling. n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #12
Exactly! ctsnowman Aug 2015 #127
Intentional agitation. glinda Aug 2015 #143
It's almost as if someone was hoping to get video "proving" that winter is coming Aug 2015 #215
It's very, very sad. I have nothing but compassion for what Black people are going through. stillwaiting Aug 2015 #64
Well said. Thank you. jwirr Aug 2015 #101
Jesus H - how to win friends and support. 840high Aug 2015 #93
See post #5 7962 Aug 2015 #147
well........ azurnoir Aug 2015 #176
Is there no security? geek tragedy Aug 2015 #14
Could be wrong.... daleanime Aug 2015 #72
I've seen other posts that this was a separate event that the was invited to speak at arcane1 Aug 2015 #97
That's my understanding also.... daleanime Aug 2015 #107
Welcome to the club :) arcane1 Aug 2015 #109
methinks this is not just about the blm movement restorefreedom Aug 2015 #17
And nobody can honestly claim he's a freakin' white supremacist. arcane1 Aug 2015 #20
they are definitely informed restorefreedom Aug 2015 #26
wish there was a way to follow the money. nt passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #76
probably is restorefreedom Aug 2015 #119
Rachael??????? Yoo hoo!!!!!!! glinda Aug 2015 #146
If they do they have forgotten one little fact. His grandparents were killed by a freaking white jwirr Aug 2015 #135
+100000 nashville_brook Aug 2015 #21
glad i am not the only one who thinks this. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #27
it's making the whole BLM movement seem partisan and petty nashville_brook Aug 2015 #47
I'd really like to know more about those women. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #58
i'd really like to know what The Real Black Lives Matter movement stands for nashville_brook Aug 2015 #86
True. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #92
i watched our local occupy go to shit b/c of the crazies nashville_brook Aug 2015 #104
Yep. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #108
BLM has jumped the shark. And bad cops everywhere LOVE it. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #150
may I ask what sort of crazies? MisterP Aug 2015 #157
Yes. 840high Aug 2015 #41
It smells of dirty tricks to me. zeemike Aug 2015 #48
Exactly. n/t bvf Aug 2015 #117
Follow the money. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #171
I would love to know that. zeemike Aug 2015 #182
Well, we all know that black people can't possibly act for themselves, 6000eliot Aug 2015 #217
It's hard not to see it that way.... daleanime Aug 2015 #77
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Aug 2015 #115
Whoever was in charge of this BLM stunt should be reprimanded and shunned. truthisfreedom Aug 2015 #18
This sh!t is starting to smell...... concreteblue Aug 2015 #19
+1 ruffburr Aug 2015 #63
How umm, counterproductive (?) DirtyHippyBastard Aug 2015 #23
I am all for BLM, but this is not right passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #24
Yep just sad and crazy at an otherwise excellent SS & Medicare event with several speakers. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #45
I agree Thespian2 Aug 2015 #118
+100000 nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #129
+1000000 MissDeeds Aug 2015 #165
You nailed it MissDeeds Aug 2015 #160
Why do I get the feeling they are doing this at the behest of....... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #28
Trust your feeling. 840high Aug 2015 #44
Oh please. nolabear Aug 2015 #50
who else does it benefit? questionseverything Aug 2015 #70
It certainly benefits Hillary. 840high Aug 2015 #95
Yep MissDeeds Aug 2015 #112
Doesn't have to be Hillary. The biggest losers if Bernie wins or even if he builds the movement he jwirr Aug 2015 #128
The Clinton's are not above using race in either direction. Remember Bill's racist remarks totodeinhere Aug 2015 #191
The whole thing stinks and doesn't make any logical sense. Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #67
Because it makes no sense is why it stinks. Exactly! It is a glinda Aug 2015 #151
doesn't actually have to be "from Hillary" nashville_brook Aug 2015 #75
occam's razor juxtaposed Aug 2015 #91
Unfortunately the bias that leads to a CT is also a short straight line. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #167
always trust your gut. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #130
Yup. Remember HRC making this comment? totodeinhere Aug 2015 #193
Well, there's one way for us to find out d_b Aug 2015 #205
BLM will go after republicans only AFTER Hillary gets the nomination, until then it's Bernie 4139 Aug 2015 #29
I want all the D contenders to sit down with the Black Lives Matter group & have a talk. Sunlei Aug 2015 #30
I want all the D contenders to tell BLM to go pound sand... BillZBubb Aug 2015 #142
Their actions dont deserve any recognition. Dont reward childish insolent behavior. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #152
Give in to a temper tantrum? HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #188
If they keep this up, they're going to hand Bernie Sanders rocktivity Aug 2015 #32
Black Lives Matter are choosing the wrong candidate to hit on Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #42
I know the protesters identified themselves as BLM members but how do we know? fasttense Aug 2015 #35
It was recorded, right? Review the recording and ID those involved Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #39
Why is the AA group willing to forgive Hillary and Bill passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #121
They can be BLM [i]and[/i] paid, you know. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #189
We need identities and accountability. Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #36
The only team that is pushing this anti Bernie thing with African Americans is... Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #46
Hard to tell..... daleanime Aug 2015 #85
not hundreds...thousands were denied questionseverything Aug 2015 #103
What a pity. Someone may have learned something. elias49 Aug 2015 #49
Looks like the swiftboating is on full bore. Doubt it will work with Sanders, though. mikehiggins Aug 2015 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Aug 2015 #52
Just shut off the MIC if an authorized person gets on stage. PADemD Aug 2015 #54
I do not think this was a planned rally for Bernie. That will be later tonight. This was a rally jwirr Aug 2015 #60
The event was advertised as featuring Bernie. djean111 Aug 2015 #73
I agree. jwirr Aug 2015 #145
The Seattle Times called it a Bernie Sanders Rally House of Roberts Aug 2015 #74
It was officially a Rally for Social Security and Medicare featuring Bernie & other speakers. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #98
Yes, I read that and they are incorrect. His rally starts later tonight. jwirr Aug 2015 #148
Correct. It was a Rally for SS & Medicare with several excellent speakers before Bernie. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #80
3 major Seattle papers announced this would be a Bernie rally Divernan Aug 2015 #82
Read closely. Paper number 1 say 2 rallies but then goes on to say one is a Social Security rally jwirr Aug 2015 #164
I agree he was not responsible for security at the afternoon rally. Divernan Aug 2015 #172
For the nonce, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #62
I am not a racist WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2015 #71
Of course they do, but SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #116
THAT has already been discussed the last time and NO it should not. jwirr Aug 2015 #168
They really know how to make friends and influence people. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #79
It's disappointing that they have to interrupt Sanders' rallies, but it is for a cause NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #84
People do all sorts of stupid things in the name of a cause. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #90
I agree. I just question which "cause" they are doing it for. bbgrunt Aug 2015 #185
So you're saying they should protest all of Hillary's opponents dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #122
They should have a dialouge with ALL presidential candidates, regardless of party NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #192
OK. Seemed odd to me how you left out HRC from your post. - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #195
Why Bernie? passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #133
To dissuade people from showing up if this happens a lot. glinda Aug 2015 #154
Shut off the mic... SHRED Aug 2015 #81
Just a guess... punguin54 Aug 2015 #87
This whole situation is so distressing marlakay Aug 2015 #99
how stupid Keep-Left Aug 2015 #111
The Clintons are as vicious and vile as anyone in politics. PeteSelman Aug 2015 #120
Ha! shenmue Aug 2015 #180
Tony Soprano wasn't present for all the hits. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #218
They are bad, but not as bad as the Bush Crime Family. N/t roamer65 Aug 2015 #198
Of course i am reading this...... chknltl Aug 2015 #123
What a stupid event to target. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #124
Like white progressives are the problem . . . Depaysement Aug 2015 #125
UPDATE: They've issued an apology rocktivity Aug 2015 #126
Looks like 'They' is one person who runs a webpage. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #132
Thank you for finding this dragonlady Aug 2015 #158
Sounds like angry Republicans. glinda Aug 2015 #159
Good work! Keep shutting down leftists and progressives! Leave right wing racists unimpeded! villager Aug 2015 #134
Right? Bunch of short-sighted rocket scientists in that group.... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #138
Once again BLM proves they are politically clueless jerks. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #137
They knew that they would get shot if they showed up RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #141
I'd think they're more likely Hillary backers! 7962 Aug 2015 #153
We simply don't know that. n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #155
Are they disrupting Hillarys events? HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #199
Bernie is not the enemy tooeyeten Aug 2015 #162
After stealing microphone:"You're never going to hear Sanders speak unless I hear silence here NOW!" Old Crow Aug 2015 #170
The video from this event proves BLM is run by narcissistic bullies, not movement activists Larkspur Aug 2015 #173
+1 Could not agree with you more. (N/T) Old Crow Aug 2015 #175
WTF onecaliberal Aug 2015 #174
I would bet that there is some funding of ths going on behnd the scenes. CentralMass Aug 2015 #179
the comment thread at wapo is interesting restorefreedom Aug 2015 #184
something definitely stinks here. Soros or Koch? bbgrunt Aug 2015 #186
+1 CentralMass Aug 2015 #201
I support and applaud #Blacklivesmatter's demand for true equal civil rights. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #181
WTF? blackspade Aug 2015 #183
Turns out this was a targeted attack against Bernie Sanders Bubzer Aug 2015 #187
She sounds like the Mao Tse Tung hour from UBS on the movie "Network". N/t roamer65 Aug 2015 #196
Who is paying them? HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #194
Let's say they succeed and snuff out his candidacy tblue Aug 2015 #200
BLM is turning into OWS with all of this egotism romanic Aug 2015 #203
he needs security. d_b Aug 2015 #204
Plan #125789w392-B went off without a hitch. onehandle Aug 2015 #206
Was George Soros on the call too? George II Aug 2015 #207
Sanders needs to wake up...... George II Aug 2015 #208
Social Security, health care, climage change and income inequality... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #219
But he's evading the direct issue that has been dogging him for a month, just .... George II Aug 2015 #221
I wish that BLM Needa Moment Aug 2015 #210
Why didn't they jump on stage during the Republican ''debate''? YOHABLO Aug 2015 #212
Presidenting isn't easy frazzled Aug 2015 #214
I just watched the video - made me sick. 840high Aug 2015 #216
Divide and conquer. Guess who wins. Alkene Aug 2015 #220
This was counterproductive Chisox08 Aug 2015 #223
understandable frustration poorly channeled. CheddaD Aug 2015 #224
Yay! Shutting down Bernie Sanders campaign rallies is a *great* way to end racism! Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #228
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
1. Good, good. He chooses to listen. Too bad you are too weak to shut down the Republicans, but
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

you did help their cause.

Heck of a job, there, eh?


Response to jtuck004 (Reply #1)

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
190. Gotta agree. Had I been there, with vegetables, I might have thrown it.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

People come to hear Bernie, not them.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
3. bernie has the patience of a saint
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:34 PM
Aug 2015

earlier in the rally the local blm guy spoke and got a great reception from the crowd...so it is not like their voices were not already heard

he really needs secret service protection NOW

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
15. earlier it was a man that said he was local blm (i didn't get his name)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:53 PM
Aug 2015

but he was very well received by the crowd

these 2 women rushed the stage just as bernie began to speak...shut everything down

he needs secret service protection NOW

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
59. i was really hoping to see him speak
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

so i had watched the live stream for like an hour and a half

it was a HUGE crowd...when the camera turned i could not see the end of the crowd in any direction

most of the earlier speakers were poc and the whole thing had a festival feel...right up until they shut it down

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
68. Most of earlier speakers PoC?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:23 PM
Aug 2015

And at least one BLM? And then these women? Something is starting to stink here.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
105. Well,
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:47 PM
Aug 2015

A Google, even with quotes, sure didn't turn up much. Kind of odd, if she claims (by her actions, at least) to be a prominent member of BLM.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
131. Ah - I didn't hit "more" the first time.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:05 PM
Aug 2015

I'd sure like to know if they had any communication with Bernie or his people. To me, NRN was a one-time thing *unless* people didn't listen and respond.

What communication, if any, did they have with Bernie and/or his people, and what was the gist of it if they did in fact communicate? That's what I want to know.

I can see this being justfied (although I currently doubt it) or unjustified - I need more information.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
78. Then something needs to change.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:29 PM
Aug 2015

Security being free for some candidates but not others is hardly a level playing field.

Yes, there needs to be some way to determine "serious" candidates.

Hey, wait! Even simpler. Choose to run for office? Start providing your own security.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
96. President Obama has the authority to order Secret Service protection for
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:39 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie now, and he should. It has been done before.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
13. Caught 2 speakers incl. Kshama Sawant before Bernie, good to know a local BLM rep. spoke earlier.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

What an enthusiastic crowd rallied to support Social Security and Medicare on a Sat. afternoon. Tonight Bernie speaks at another Seattle event, then Portland, Oregon on Sunday and LA Monday. We're on a mission, Go Bernie!
Patience is a virtue and he has it. Also wisdom, strength, maturity and integrity. And major brains!

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
22. Seattle "Social Security & Medicare Rally" featuring Sen. Bernie Sanders was the event title
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:00 PM
Aug 2015

and original title of this KIRO TV article 30 mins ago.

Great crowd in Westlake- Seattle City Councilwoman Kshama Sawant and 2 other event Speakers I heard were excellent.



- KIRO TV Video, Report, Watch,

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/social-security-medicare-rally-featuring-sen-berni/nnGDm/

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
57. I must have start the live feed after that....
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:16 PM
Aug 2015

wonder if that will be included when this gets lots of coverage?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
66. I did not see that when I was watching. Are you telling us that BLM had a part in this event other
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:22 PM
Aug 2015

than this disruption?

And yes he does need protection.

msongs

(67,413 posts)
4. having watched the event, a few thoughts...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:36 PM
Aug 2015

first of all the organizers must secure and control the stage and microphone as part of running the event and providing a safe place for participants on the stage. evidently there was no control even though it is well known that at least one group of people have promised to disrupt such events.

secondly, telling the audience that they are all racists is not a way to make friends and influence people

some people just can't tell when they've won their moral victory and it's time to move on.

and what does this tell us about the candidate's planning and leadership when it is known this sort of thing will happen and it ends in the candidate leaving.



 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. What does it tell us when unarmed black folks are being shot and dying in the street, another
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

last night?

They were wrong, but for once we have a candidate who tries to listen and respect the idea that something needs to change. I give a lot of credit to Bernie for not overreacting. He is actually respecting people. What a concept.

Trump would have them shot.

Had they tried that with Mrs. Clinton they would likely have been in jail.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
55. True, and I think Bernie has the right approach.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:15 PM
Aug 2015

Nevertheless, when I read here that a BLM rep had already spoken, my question is, "Who were those women and what were they trying to accomplish?"

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
166. Maybe they should take it up with POTUS and DOJ.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:38 PM
Aug 2015

That would be the logical choice. Pissing off the public isn't going to gain them sympathy, only make them appear to be loudmouth narcissists.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
38. DING DING DING! Msongs, you're our grand prize winner!
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:09 PM
Aug 2015
Telling the audience that they are all racists is not a way to make friends and influence people.

Especially if you don't have a speech prepared and have to be coached by a human teleprompter on the sidelines. It gives the impression that you use the venue as a homeless shelter and are actually annoyed that your sleep was interrupted.


rocktivity

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
89. They made it quite clear that us liberal are all racists. The only group in the country that is on
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:35 PM
Aug 2015

their side. I am feeling sick again.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
140. Why?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:19 PM
Aug 2015

I don't know if they "Made it quite clear" that liberals are all racists. I don't need BLM to tell me that not ALL liberals are racist. But the insidious racism is the hardest to understand. I get it.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
169. Yep. Turning on their allies is a bizarre tactic.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:40 PM
Aug 2015

But if they want to fight it by themselves, then good luck.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
197. Okay. We can ignore them.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:25 PM
Aug 2015

It's a bizarre tactic they're adopting, but the best response to children throwing a temper tantrum is to ignore them. If they want to deliberately marginalize themselves, so be it.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
163. I wonder how right wing incivility is so much more influential than
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

left wing incivility. Is it because of the already existing critical mass of people who nod along with the right wing noise machine? I know the tactics of right wing media like calling liberals "sheep" or "brain dead" or "stupid" and such.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
56. Oh, so now this is on Bernie? Oh, well-played, indeed, But fail.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:15 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie expects civility, not heavy-handed disruption. But yeah, he should get some strong-armed security like Hillary has, I see your point.
Or should he just not speak anywhere, knowing that BLM is out to disrupt his entire campaign?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
65. Hillary earned that secret service through her position as
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:22 PM
Aug 2015

First Lady. Senator sanders needs to hire his own security if he deems necessary and currently he must not think it is necessary. If he is the nominee, he will get SS.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
94. Well not quite I understand that President Obama got SS protection early while he was running
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:38 PM
Aug 2015

against Hillary. At that point he was like Bernie just a Senator.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
202. True but it was well after Super Tuesday
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:39 PM
Aug 2015

We'll see. The other thing was that senator Obama (at the time) requested it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
211. I suspect that Bernie will not request it because he does not want to be the reason these kids
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:32 PM
Aug 2015

get arrested. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
83. Wasn't the event ended before he got a chance to speak? That is what I heard from someone
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:31 PM
Aug 2015

else that watched it. He walked out into the audience and shook hands after that. What would you have done - they were demanding that he apologize because he did not let them disrupt his last event? What was that even about.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
144. + one million. And you've got enough posts to not be called a "troll"
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:21 PM
Aug 2015

These idiots are only HURTING THEIR CAUSE!!!!!! Its just turning into a "look at me" group. Everyone wants their 15 minutes........

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
8. BLM folks should realize by now African Americans
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:43 PM
Aug 2015

will never support Bernie. I think they should ignore Bernie just like the rest of the AA community.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
156. most not going to come out for her if she is the nominee
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

Things are different now after Obama. People might say they support her in a poll but actually voting....

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
100. I don't believe that for even one moment. Many African Americans don't know Bernie very well
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

yet. But as they get to know him they will realize that what Bernie proposes is just what their community needs.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
139. Who are they gonna support?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:18 PM
Aug 2015

Cruz, or Carson?
They are the only "minorities" running.
Really, if they want Cruz or Carson, they are plants, shills for the RepubliCLOWN party.
If anyone in politics has done something for the African American community, it is the liberals.

However, I do get their racist liberal vibe. Having being poor as a kid and living in what one might call a ghetto, I understand the conditions that poor minorities, as well as non minorities have to go through. Even though there are liberals who are backing their cause, they don't know what it's like living in the ghetto, living poor, being target by the police. They feel sorry for the folks who are less fortunate, and do nothing to make these poor folks become part of their community.

I also think that there is a part that the Black Lives Matter folks don't get. They don't understand that Bernie came from a poor family, and he understands a lot of these issues, and has worked for them for a long long time. That's more than I could say for any other candidate.

Oh well, live and learn.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. BLM called people in the crowd “white supremacist liberals” for asking them to let Sanders speak?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:44 PM
Aug 2015

unreal

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
215. It's almost as if someone was hoping to get video "proving" that
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:13 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie crowds don't like African Americans. Hmm...

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
64. It's very, very sad. I have nothing but compassion for what Black people are going through.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:21 PM
Aug 2015

It saddens me that some black people think that I might be their enemy.

I really don't understand, but I'll keep on trying to do so.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
176. well........
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:49 PM
Aug 2015

3. bernie has the patience of a saint

earlier in the rally the local blm guy spoke and got a great reception from the crowd...so it is not like their voices were not already heard

he really needs secret service protection NOW

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1170643

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. Is there no security?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:51 PM
Aug 2015

If it's a campaign event, then if people try to commandeer the stage, the way to handle it is to have them escorted off.

This seems like some wannabe's who saw the attention the BLM protest at NN got and thought they could get themselves a piece of the action. They seem like trolls, not activists--calling a crowd "white supremacists" because they want to head Bernie speak at his own event is beyond crazy.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
72. Could be wrong....
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:25 PM
Aug 2015

but I don't think it was Bernie's event. It was a local rally to celebrate SS and Medicare, although I could be wrong. If I am I hope some one corrects me.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
97. I've seen other posts that this was a separate event that the was invited to speak at
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

But it's not an "official" event, which is what he's having later today.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. methinks this is not just about the blm movement
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:55 PM
Aug 2015

bernie is the only one being silenced.

food for thought.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
26. they are definitely informed
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:03 PM
Aug 2015

and their agenda is becoming more clear. ironically, the disrupters within the blm movement might end up hurting the goals of the more mainstream efforts.

but then gain, there is really only one goal here, at least of the disrupters

hillary *cough cough* in the white house *cough cough*


restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
119. probably is
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

for someone who knows where to dig.... this would be a good story for a reporter who can't be bought

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
135. If they do they have forgotten one little fact. His grandparents were killed by a freaking white
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:11 PM
Aug 2015

supremacist in Nazi Germany when he was small.

That is one of the reasons I cannot believe they are targeting him and telling him to apologize for racism.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
47. it's making the whole BLM movement seem partisan and petty
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

it's sad for BLM.

just a couple of people using the label of BLM are cheapening the whole movement for using this as a partisan cudgel.

i don't believe this is the whole BLM "movement." it's just whomever believes they can use the label to advance their agenda.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
86. i'd really like to know what The Real Black Lives Matter movement stands for
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

is there an organization or is it more like Anonymous, where anyone can claim to speak for the group?

b/c, if there is an organization, it's time to hear what the official stance on this is. will there be protests of any other candidate other than Sanders? Has BLM decided to drop their focus on law enforcement oversight? why is Bernie Sanders public enemy #1?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
92. True.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

There's something to be said for leaderless "organizations" (I am forever grateful to OWS), but if you have no leadership, then anyone can say anything and claim to be you.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
104. i watched our local occupy go to shit b/c of the crazies
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:46 PM
Aug 2015

and i have to suspect that's a danger for BLM as well.

our local BLM protests have been ad-hoc, and fairly well organized thru coalitions of existing orgs reaching out to membership. if a couple of people in my town decided to disrupt a Sanders event and say they're doing it in the name of BLM, there wouldn't be a spokesperson to respond one way or the other. there's no board to convene.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
108. Yep.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:50 PM
Aug 2015

There's sometimes something to be said for hierarchy, or at least a modicum of organization/communication.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
157. may I ask what sort of crazies?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

here my worry isn't "extremism" in BLM but partisan chicanery under guise of race

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
48. It smells of dirty tricks to me.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

And it follows the Rovien principle of attack their strength.

I suspect we will see more of this.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
217. Well, we all know that black people can't possibly act for themselves,
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:01 AM
Aug 2015

so it must mean this is a dirty trick funded by Hillary Clinton. How condescendingly racist this response is, and I don't care if it gets alerted on.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
18. Whoever was in charge of this BLM stunt should be reprimanded and shunned.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:57 PM
Aug 2015

Completely against their own self-interest and the interest of Progressives that are on their side.

Congrats to Bernie for keeping his cool.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
19. This sh!t is starting to smell......
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:57 PM
Aug 2015

This si starting to smell like a good old fashioned Nixonian rat fu(&1NG.......
Can we please find some way to get to the bottom of this sh!t...both by having Bernie meet with these people AND doing some oppo on the instigators and their contacts?

DirtyHippyBastard

(217 posts)
23. How umm, counterproductive (?)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

Seems childish and mean to go about things this way. By disrupting a rally for a sympathetic candidate who has recently been addressing your issue in every public speaking engagement he has been part of. To do this after one of the BLM members spoke at this very rally is more than a little suspicious, and will make me look at this group as a shill for Capitalist Clinton from here on.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
24. I am all for BLM, but this is not right
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

They are pissing people off, and looking childish and disrespectful. What they are doing to Bernie now is really not fair (yes, this is more like trolling) and they are going to lose a lot of the support that was being given to them lately.

Bernie is not the only one who needs to "listen".

They don't want to hear what he has to say. It will never be good enough for them, because it's not about his "message" any more (maybe it never was). It's about just shutting him down.

This is just sad and crazy.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
45. Yep just sad and crazy at an otherwise excellent SS & Medicare event with several speakers.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:12 PM
Aug 2015

Whether this is the best venue for BLM I'm not sure. Bernie has listened as requested by BLM today and by posters here who have said they feel more heard and welcomed by HRC and supporters. So there is some of it.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
118. I agree
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

The people interrupting are being paid by someone...Corporate America is definitely afraid of Bernie and will find some way to stop him...the BLM folks are causing people like me to suspect their true agenda...which seems to be stopping Bernie...if they get Hillary, they will be truly sad...she is corporatist who cares principally about herself...

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
50. Oh please.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

That's making things up out of whole cloth. Hillary doesn't need to do it and it would be a foolish and dangerous thing to do.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
112. Yep
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:54 PM
Aug 2015

It will be interesting to see if any of these protests take place at any of her appearances.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
128. Doesn't have to be Hillary. The biggest losers if Bernie wins or even if he builds the movement he
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

is working on are the corporations and the banksters.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
191. The Clinton's are not above using race in either direction. Remember Bill's racist remarks
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:19 PM
Aug 2015

during the 2008 South Carolina primary campaign.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
67. The whole thing stinks and doesn't make any logical sense.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:22 PM
Aug 2015

I have learned to trust my instinct.
Disclaimer..I haven't decided who to vote for yet.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
151. Because it makes no sense is why it stinks. Exactly! It is a
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

set up or it is an uniformed groups of crazies. all the reason Bernie needs body guards.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
75. doesn't actually have to be "from Hillary"
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

to function that way.

these are likely just low-level local activists using the BLM organization for an excuse to disrupt. and...just b/c someone say's the words "black lives matter" doesn't make them an ambassador of the group. i think they're using the BLM brand to advance their own agenda, and someone from BLM needs to speak up and distance the movement from this shit.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
167. Unfortunately the bias that leads to a CT is also a short straight line.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

Our brain needs to resolve the question why, our brain works on what we think is important, not necessarily evidence.

 

d_b

(7,463 posts)
205. Well, there's one way for us to find out
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:49 PM
Aug 2015

Let's see which other candidates hey pull this shit with.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
30. I want all the D contenders to sit down with the Black Lives Matter group & have a talk.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:06 PM
Aug 2015

Soon, set a date same as next R debate. Lets talk about the real issues in America.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
142. I want all the D contenders to tell BLM to go pound sand...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015

until they can learn to behave like adults and learn how to be politically effective.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
32. If they keep this up, they're going to hand Bernie Sanders
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:06 PM
Aug 2015

the black guilt vote.

Let's see if they're brave enough to spread the wealth and interrupt another candidate for a change -- especially a GOPer.

Thank goodness there's another event.


rocktivity

Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #37)

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
35. I know the protesters identified themselves as BLM members but how do we know?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:08 PM
Aug 2015

All we have is their word for it. Is there a roster or list of known participants? How do we know they are NOT paid political operatives? Why are they hounding Bernie the one candidate who actually marched for civil rights? This is strange. I think something else is going on then what it appears like.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
121. Why is the AA group willing to forgive Hillary and Bill
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:59 PM
Aug 2015

For standing for things that were very harmful to blacks. But they cannot forgive Bernie for not making his campaign all about them from the get go?

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
36. We need identities and accountability.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:09 PM
Aug 2015

Hundreds of people were denied an opportunity
to hear from their candidate, and a mockery was
made of the BLM movement.

Who was responsible?
FB and twitter accounts, please.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
46. The only team that is pushing this anti Bernie thing with African Americans is...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:12 PM
Aug 2015

the Hillary team. O'Malley, Webb wouldn't. In fact the Republicans aren't that interested.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
49. What a pity. Someone may have learned something.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

Why doesn't BLM descend on DC instead? That's where legislation is currently being crafted.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
51. Looks like the swiftboating is on full bore. Doubt it will work with Sanders, though.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:14 PM
Aug 2015

One reason he uses so few notes in his appearances is that he knows what he is about, and doesn't need polls or focus groups to determine his direction.

And a lot of us old folks are going to wonder why anyone is picking on this messy haired old guy.

Bad optics folks.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
54. Just shut off the MIC if an authorized person gets on stage.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:15 PM
Aug 2015

I would be pissed if I traveled to hear Bernie and someone interrupted his speech.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
60. I do not think this was a planned rally for Bernie. That will be later tonight. This was a rally
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. All the speakers talked about it. He was asked to attend and speak about his idea for expanding them.

This was not his event.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
73. The event was advertised as featuring Bernie.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:25 PM
Aug 2015

I do not think for one instant they they would have shown up if he was not there. And why interrupt just Bernie?
No, they are after Bernie.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
98. It was officially a Rally for Social Security and Medicare featuring Bernie & other speakers.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

In early June I saw Bernie speak at a Public Policy Forum in the DC area, it was not a campaign rally- same deal.
This made for an interesting event, don't know how effective though. Great crowd, I heard several excellent speakers.

A poster upthread mentions there was a local BLM rep. man who spoke officially to the enthused audience earlier, as part of the program, before I tuned in. This is targeting Sanders clearly.

It was wonderful how Bernie took time to meet and greet many folks when walking through the crowd at the end.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
80. Correct. It was a Rally for SS & Medicare with several excellent speakers before Bernie.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:29 PM
Aug 2015

The media is only Now titling the event as a Bernie disrupt, unlike an hour ago, esp. local KIRO TV that I watched the event on who changed their story lead.

Great crowd, and upthread someone mentioned there was a local BLM rep. man who officially spoke to the receptive audience earlier in the program.

In early June I was fortunate to attend a packed house Public Policy Forum in the DC area that included Bernie as a speaker. It was Not a campaign rally.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
82. 3 major Seattle papers announced this would be a Bernie rally
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:31 PM
Aug 2015

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 07:03 PM
Star Member Divernan (12,897 posts)

Presidential candidate Sanders to find friendly territory in Seattle visit (headline)
Good, positive local news coverage from 3 main Seattle papers, the Seattle Times, the Puget Sound Business Journal and the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/presidential-candidate-sanders-expected-to-draw-crowds-in-seattle-visit/

Is Seattle Bernie Sanders’ kind of town? The Democratic presidential candidate brings his fiery, anti-corporate rhetoric to Seattle on Saturday for two rallies that could attract thousands.(subheadline)
Seattle is friendly territory for a candidate like Sanders — and organizers expect thousands from across the state will pack two events: a 1 p.m. Social Security event at Westlake Park and a 6 p.m. campaign rally at Edmundson Pavilion.

As the first 2016 contender to publicly campaign in Washington, Sanders’ visit contrasts with recent secretive stopovers by other candidates. Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican Jeb Bush each slipped into the Seattle area this year to mingle at penthouses and mansions with donors who paid thousands of dollars to attend. Sanders’ only scheduled fundraiser is a small, $200-a-person meet-and-greet at Capitol Hill’s Comet Tavern.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/presidential-candidate-sanders-expected-to-draw-crowds-in-seattle-visit/

Bernie Sanders expects avid Seattle crowds Saturday (headline)

The Bernie Sanders phenomenon comes to Seattle Saturday with an address at Seattle's Westlake Park, a University of Washington rally and a $200-a-person fundraiser at the Comet Tavern.

It will be the first Northwest campaign appearances for the Vermont senator, who's been Hillary Clinton's most vigorous challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination.

His first event is at Westlake Park for a 1 p.m. "celebration" of Social Security and Medicare. Sanders, a 73-year-old independent who is challenging Clinton from the left, has called for a national single-payer health care program. At 6 p.m., Sanders holds a rally at the University of Washington's Alaska Airlines Arena at Hec Edmundson Pavilion.

Sanders' campaign says his July 29 nationwide series of "meet-ups" drew 105,000 participants, and that Washington state had the third-highest concentration of these meetings in the nation with 120, after California and New York.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2015/08/04/bernie-sanders-is-raising-money-at-the-comet-tavern-on-saturday-no-medina-mansion-for-him/

Bernie Sanders is raising money at the Comet Tavern on Saturday: No Medina mansion for him(headline)

Sen. Bernie Sanders is carrying his campaign for the 2016 Democratic nomination to the historic Comet Tavern on Capitol Hill Saturday, eschewing the usual presidential path to Medina, Hunts Point, Laurelhurst and waterfront mansions.

Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, he’s not. The Sanders campaign will charge for the event, $1,000 to host and $200 to get in the door at the “Meet and Greet,” with doors open at 4 p.m. and the event at 5 p.m.

But it’s a far cry from the $50,000 to sit at the head table at last year’s Clinton Foundation fundraiser, or the candidate’s $2,700-a-head June event in Madison Park. A penthouse “Roundtable” with Bush in June carried a $12,500 price tag. Brunch with President Obama on a recent Hunts Point foray set guests back $17,200.

Sanders is speaking at an early afternoon Social Security rally in Westlake Park, sharing the stage with leather-lunged voices of the Seattle left (and folk singer Jim Page). He has an early evening rally at Hec Ed Pavilion at the University of Washington. A similar rally, three weeks ago in Phoenix, drew 11,000 supporters.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
164. Read closely. Paper number 1 say 2 rallies but then goes on to say one is a Social Security rally
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:37 PM
Aug 2015

and the second one is Bernie's campaign rally.

Paper number 2 calls the Social Security rally his first event but does not call it his rally. They do say that the 6 pm is his rally.

Paper number 3 calls the first event the Social Security rally and the second one his rally.

The first one was sponsored by someone else and it was totally about social security, Medicare and Medicaid.

The last rally of the night was planned by Bernie's campaign.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
172. I agree he was not responsible for security at the afternoon rally.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

My point was that anyone who desired to attack him publicly knew they would have the opportunity to do so at the afternoon rally at which he was scheduled to speak.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
62. For the nonce,
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:20 PM
Aug 2015

based on what I have seen so far, I really think "Black Lives Matter" "protesters" should be in quotes.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
71. I am not a racist
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:24 PM
Aug 2015

I am for Bernie's positions 100%, I am also for the goals of Black Lives Matter, but maybe they should be expanded on to say
ALL LIVES MATTER!

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
116. Of course they do, but
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:55 PM
Aug 2015

no, please, to that a slogan. Some groups have *way* more of a head start than others.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
79. They really know how to make friends and influence people.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:29 PM
Aug 2015

That's for anyone who might not have gotten it.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
84. It's disappointing that they have to interrupt Sanders' rallies, but it is for a cause
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:32 PM
Aug 2015

The Black Lives Matter group should protest Republican events as well. They are doing it for a good cause, the Black Lives Matter group, but all lives should matter in the U.S. I hope that they can respond well to the backlash that they will face from the media and others once this story is revealed later in the day.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
185. I agree. I just question which "cause" they are doing it for.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

This is profoundly disturbing and if BLM is trying to shut Bernie and his followers down, then one has to question who is using them to betray their own cause.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
192. They should have a dialouge with ALL presidential candidates, regardless of party
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:20 PM
Aug 2015

Period. Don't go after Bernie Sanders, have a discussion about racial issues in this country with ALL of the presidential candidates.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
133. Why Bernie?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Aug 2015

Ever since the NN derailing, he's been talking about many things that need to change to help blacks and other minorities. Why are they still attacking him?

If it was for "a cause" and it was OK to interrupt Sanders, who is on their side, then it would also be OK to interrupt all the dem candidates.

Sorry...not buying it any more.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
81. Shut off the mic...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:30 PM
Aug 2015

...and where was security?

Are people running these events incompetent or what?


marlakay

(11,473 posts)
99. This whole situation is so distressing
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

I am so upset that people can't listen to my candidate, and that somehow information on all Bernie has done isn't getting theough to them, to where they feel its ok to try and ruin his campaign.

Is there no other forum where big crowds are? Obviously they chose this one because it was loose.

Try to get away with this at any republican event or Hillary's and be thrown in jail.

I am white so yes I can't possbly know how it feels to be threatened everytime you step out of your house. But I care, in my own way I care. I have always felt we are all the same inside and hate seeing others treated different.

Stuff like this just makes me mad, confused. After watching how awful they have been treated by cops lately I get the anger, I just don't get why they are taking it out on Bernie, unless they really believe Hillary or someone else will help them more so take him down like Meagan tried with Trump.

 

Keep-Left

(66 posts)
111. how stupid
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:53 PM
Aug 2015

I cant think of a better person to help the movement and you shut his rally down.

I hope they were arrested

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
120. The Clintons are as vicious and vile as anyone in politics.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:57 PM
Aug 2015

They play hardball for keeps. It's pretty sick really but that's the game.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
123. Of course i am reading this......
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:01 PM
Aug 2015

....while standing in line for the 6pm event for Sanders at Seattle's Hec Ed Pavilion! It looks to be a sold out event too! Broght my new Nikon and if i get it in there will be photos for ya DU.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
124. What a stupid event to target.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:01 PM
Aug 2015

There are so many racist horrible groups and people in this country and yet they target someone who fought for civil rights and is on their side.

What the hell were they thinking?

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
125. Like white progressives are the problem . . .
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:03 PM
Aug 2015

. . . And pissing us off is the solution.

I smell foul play.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
132. Looks like 'They' is one person who runs a webpage.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Aug 2015

Here's what was posted on a DIFFERENT webpage.

This is from the BLM Seattle organization FB page - not a community page.

Black Lives Matter Seattle
48 mins · Edited ·

PRESS RELEASE: Black Lives Matter Seattle ‪#‎BowDownBernie‬ Action

MEDIA CONTACTS: Marissa Johnson blacklivesmatterseattle@gmail.com

Black Lives Matter Seattle organizers and supporters take over Bernie Sanders’ rally at Westlake on Saturday, August 8, 2015.

Today BLM Seattle, with the support of other Black organizers and non-Black allies and accomplices, held Bernie Sanders publicly accountable for his lack of support for the Black Lives Matter movement and his blatantly silencing response to the ‪#‎SayHerName‬ ‪#‎IfIDieInPoliceCustody‬ action that took place at Netroots this year.

Bernie’s arrival in Seattle is largely significant in the context of the state of emergency Black lives are in locally as well as across America. The Seattle Police Department has been under federal consent decree for the last three years and has been continually plagued by use-of-force violations and racist scandals amongst their rank and file. Seattle Mayor Ed Murray has refused to push any reform measures for police accountability, not even the numerous recommendations of his self-appointed Community Police Commission. The Seattle School District suspends Black students at a rate six times higher than their white counterparts, feeding Black children into the school-to-prison pipeline. King County has fought hard to push through a plan to build a $210 million new youth jail to imprison these children, amid intense community criticism and dissent. The Central District, a historically Black neighborhood in Seattle, has undergone rapid gentrification over the past few decades, with Black people being displaced from the only neighborhood that we could legally live in until just years ago. While white men profit off of the legalization of marijuana, our prisons are still filled with Black people who are over-incarcerated for drug offenses.

This city is filled with white progressives, which is why Bernie Sanders’ camp was obviously expecting a friendly and consenting audience for today’s campaign visit. The problem with Sanders’, and with white Seattle progressives in general, is that they are utterly and totally useless (when not outright harmful) in terms of the fight for Black lives. While we are drowning in their liberal rhetoric, we have yet to see them support Black grassroots movements or take on any measure of risk and responsibility for ending the tyranny of white supremacy in our country and in our city. This willful passivity while claiming solidarity with the ‪#‎BlackLivesMatter‬ movement in an effort to be relevant is over. White progressive Seattle and Bernie Sanders cannot call themselves liberals while they participate in the racist system that claims Black lives. Bernie Sanders will not continue to call himself a man of the people, while ignoring the plight of Black people. Presidential candidates will not win Black votes without putting out an explicit criminal justice reform package. As was said at the Netroots action, presidential candidates should expect to be shut down and confronted every step along the way of this presidential campaign. Black people are in a state of emergency. Lines have been drawn in the sand. You are either fighting continuously and measurably to protect Black life in America, or you are a part of the white supremacist system that we will tear down in the liberation of our people.

On this, nearly the one year anniversary of the ruthless murder of Mike Brown, we honor Black lives lost by doing the unthinkable, the unapologetic, and the unrespectable. Out of radical love for our Black brothers and sisters, we put our lives and our bodies on the line to testify to their persecution and resilience. We join together in Black love to #SayHerName and declare that #BlackLivesMatter, understanding that our love will disrupt the complicity and corruption of our anti-Black society; GOP, Democrat, and otherwise.

There is no business as usual while Black lives are lost. We will ensure this by any means necessary.

With the strength of our ancestors and for the future of our children,

Black Lives Matter Seattle Co-Founders

Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford

#BowDownBernie
#SayHerName
#IfIDieInPoliceCustody
‪#‎NotOneMoreDeportation‬
‪#‎FreePalestine‬
‪#‎MikeBrown‬
#BlackLivesMatter
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
134. Good work! Keep shutting down leftists and progressives! Leave right wing racists unimpeded!
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

Great tactics -- will doubtless yield the same spectacular results for the left in America as they always have before!

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
138. Right? Bunch of short-sighted rocket scientists in that group....
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:18 PM
Aug 2015

.... talk shit about a guy that's been walking the walk for DECADES....

Brilliant...

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
137. Once again BLM proves they are politically clueless jerks.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:17 PM
Aug 2015

Not one of the big mouths showed up in Cleveland to shut down the Trumpathon.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
141. They knew that they would get shot if they showed up
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015

At the Cleveland Circus.

Or, they are Carson, or Cruz supporters, and are shills for the republiCLOWN party.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
170. After stealing microphone:"You're never going to hear Sanders speak unless I hear silence here NOW!"
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

Sounds like all the attention has gone to someone's head. And I don't mean Bernie Sanders.

This. Is. Effing. Ridiculous.

Bernie Sanders is NOT "the man." Bernie Sanders's supporters are not "white supremacists."

Get a clue.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
173. The video from this event proves BLM is run by narcissistic bullies, not movement activists
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:46 PM
Aug 2015

They will no longer have my respect.

Bernie's campaign needs to work with event organizers to do a better job of securing the event, especially the stage access and microphones. People went to this event to hear Bernie speak on Social Security not listen to BLM bullies.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
179. I would bet that there is some funding of ths going on behnd the scenes.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:53 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary and Bill were the targets in 2008. Its Bernie this go around. Something smells.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
184. the comment thread at wapo is interesting
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:02 PM
Aug 2015

many suggesting that this is an unofficial act to further hillary's campaign and backed by soros.

don't know how that would ever be proven, but many are thinking something stinks here..

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
181. I support and applaud #Blacklivesmatter's demand for true equal civil rights.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:57 PM
Aug 2015

Equal rights must come first.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
183. WTF?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:01 PM
Aug 2015

How in the world does this help BLM?
Especially since a BLM speaker had already spoken to the crowd?

This was super shitty.

This is looking more and more like a set up to either throw the election to Clinton or the GOP.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
187. Turns out this was a targeted attack against Bernie Sanders
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:07 PM
Aug 2015

This is the woman speaker who was there.
She has posted the following:

Black Lives Matter Seattle ‪#‎BowDownBernie‬ Action

*snip*
This city is filled with white progressives, which is why Bernie Sanders’ camp was obviously expecting a friendly and consenting audience for today’s campaign visit. The problem with Sanders’, and with white Seattle progressives in general, is that they are utterly and totally useless (when not outright harmful) in terms of the fight for Black lives. While we are drowning in their liberal rhetoric, we have yet to see them support Black grassroots movements or take on any measure of risk and responsibility for ending the tyranny of white supremacy in our country and in our city. This willful passivity while claiming solidarity with the ‪#‎BlackLivesMatter‬ movement in an effort to be relevant is over. White progressive Seattle and Bernie Sanders cannot call themselves liberals while they participate in the racist system that claims Black lives. Bernie Sanders will not continue to call himself a man of the people, while ignoring the plight of Black people. Presidential candidates will not win Black votes without putting out an explicit criminal justice reform package. As was said at the Netroots action, presidential candidates should expect to be shut down and confronted every step along the way of this presidential campaign. Black people are in a state of emergency. Lines have been drawn in the sand. You are either fighting continuously and measurably to protect Black life in America, or you are a part of the white supremacist system that we will tear down in the liberation of our people.

https://www.facebook.com/marissa.jenae.johnson

tblue

(16,350 posts)
200. Let's say they succeed and snuff out his candidacy
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
Aug 2015

Where the hell does that get anybody?

I'm black and a big supporter of Bernie. Like most of you, I appreciate and understand what's behind BLM's frustration and rage. I just don't understand the target. Or the goal in pulling something like this.

Sit down with Bernie and tell him what you want. If that doesn't work, then go to Plan B. You don't start there. And you don't beat up on what you perceive is an easy target, especially one that is in no way responsible for the problems you want to solve, unlike almost every single Republican politician.

Disheartening. Bernie doesn't deserve to be treated like this. If we knock him out of the race, I really fear for what's to come.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
203. BLM is turning into OWS with all of this egotism
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:40 PM
Aug 2015

I don't see these cowards pulling this crap with Queen Hillary, Trump the Toupee and the other losers over on the right. If they want to be big and bad, go interrupt their rallies. Til then, I will side-eye the hell out of these so-called "protestors" and their divide and conquer tactics.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
206. Plan #125789w392-B went off without a hitch.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:57 PM
Aug 2015

I was just on the after-party conference call with Hillary.

She is very pleased with the results of her plan.

Genius.

George II

(67,782 posts)
208. Sanders needs to wake up......
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:10 PM
Aug 2015

This event was supposed to have been about Social Security and Health Care, the event later in the day was supposed to be about Climate Change and Income Inequality.

I guess being in a city that is only 7.9% Black or African American (according to Seattle.gov) he doesn't have to worry about racial issues.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
219. Social Security, health care, climage change and income inequality...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:35 AM
Aug 2015

affect blacks just like everyone else. Try again.

George II

(67,782 posts)
221. But he's evading the direct issue that has been dogging him for a month, just ....
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:06 AM
Aug 2015

...dancing around the fringes of it. Time to address it head on.

Needa Moment

(56 posts)
210. I wish that BLM
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:31 PM
Aug 2015

Wouldn't waste their efforts in this realm and focus more on the the peoples justice of putting cliven Bundy away for a long, long while. Now that poc should serve and repay all he owes us for stealing & moochimg off all the rest of us.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
212. Why didn't they jump on stage during the Republican ''debate''?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:01 PM
Aug 2015

This is so inappropriate and they are messing with the wrong side of the fence. How ignorant can these people be?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
214. Presidenting isn't easy
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:06 AM
Aug 2015

and it's not always fair. You don't always get to talk about what you want to talk about, you sometimes get attacked for things beyond your purview. But it's part of the deal. It's not for the faint of heart—not that I'm saying Bernie is faint of heart; he's not. But he will have to deal with what gets put on his plate if he becomes president, whether he likes it or not. We need to understand this.

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
223. This was counterproductive
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:52 AM
Aug 2015

Why attack the candidate that is on your side the most? Bernie has the best record on Civil Rights and standing against the growing militarization of the police and the war on drugs. This seems politically motivated to help one candidate over the other in the primaries.

CheddaD

(2 posts)
224. understandable frustration poorly channeled.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

As a Caucasian, I can only conceptually understand the rage of those black Americans who are politically active by voting consistently for Democratic candidates, yet have seen little improvement in the treatment of African-Americans by the State since the Civil Rights era. Schools and the Justice system are still failing too many African Americans. And I grasp why some would want to put Democratic leaders on the spot even more than Republican candidates. In fact, they should be asking Democrats "what am I getting if I vote for you?" If that question is not answered, the African-American community will return to low numbers of voters.

For all I know, these young women may have had real difficulty getting their agenda addressed. Candidates have been mostly silent on this issue. However, after the moderator graciously responded to their threats by giving them the microphone, I think they could have achieved something useful by simply asking "Senator Sanders, during your speech, please tell us what, if elected as President, you plan to do to ensure that Black Lives Matter as much as any other life in this country?"

Anger that has no constructive end benefits only the ego of the individual, and only momentarily.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
228. Yay! Shutting down Bernie Sanders campaign rallies is a *great* way to end racism!
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:54 PM
Aug 2015

Keep up the good work, BLM!

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