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Omaha Steve

(99,693 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:28 PM Aug 2015

A&P asks bankruptcy court to set aside union provisions

Source: Lohud

Hoa Nguyen

A&P has asked a bankruptcy court judge to set aside two key union provisions — bumping rights and full severance pay — after reaching a negotiation impasse with labor groups, officials said in court documents filed late Tuesday.

The supermarket wants to completely eliminate bumping rights, saying the administrative burden and costs associated with allowing workers to do that are too high and undesirable to would-be buyers of its stores. Bumping rights allow employees who work the longest for the company — and at a store slated to close — to take the job of a less senior worker at a supermarket that will continue to operate.

The other sticking point is the amount of severance pay A&P will pay and when. The supermarket has proposed paying employees who will lose their jobs as part of the bankruptcy 25 percent of the severance they are entitled to on a "timely basis" with a maximum cap of $10 million for all workers. The rest of the severance would be paid later, depending on how much remains after the stores have been sold and what other A&P creditors are due, as part of settling the bankruptcy case.

Besides these two sticking points, both parties appear to have reached an agreement on most of their other issues. A hearing on the matter is scheduled for Monday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in White Plains.

FULL story at link.



The A&P supermarket in Rye Brook.
(Photo: Ricky Flores/The Journal News)

Read more: http://www.lohud.com/story/news/2015/08/12/aandp-bankruptcy-union-contracts/31522937/

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A&P asks bankruptcy court to set aside union provisions (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2015 OP
I can understand the severance pay thing dsc Aug 2015 #1
That's the way a seniority systems works. Capt.Rocky300 Aug 2015 #2
I hated working in a union environment where seniority madville Aug 2015 #3
Funny how that works..... Capt.Rocky300 Aug 2015 #4
No, didn't stick around long enough for them to fill it madville Aug 2015 #5
I haven't followed this...is it another Hostess? Is Mitt Romney and ilk waiting in the wings silvershadow Aug 2015 #6

dsc

(52,166 posts)
1. I can understand the severance pay thing
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:57 PM
Aug 2015

I don't like it but I do understand it. But the bump thing strikes me as out of line. It can't be that costly.

madville

(7,412 posts)
3. I hated working in a union environment where seniority
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 07:30 PM
Aug 2015

Carried so much weight. I worked as a helper and substitute operator on a huge printing press, I would act as lead operator when people went on vacation, etc.

An operator position opened up. Management had to give it to a forklift operator from the loading dock because he had worked for the company a few months longer than me. He had never touched this printing equipment, was completely clueless but the contract required it. I will say it was entertaining seeing the chaos it caused for a couple of weeks, until they offered to let him go back to the loading dock and drive his forklift again which he gladly accepted.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
4. Funny how that works.....
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:00 PM
Aug 2015

When people are "junior" that hate the seniority system. But once they get some seniority they are just fine with it. I've been in both places. It just takes time to work out. It's not perfect but it does protect workers from favoritism and cronyism on the part of management. In the end, it worked, he went back to where he best belonged.

So, did you get the position when he vacated it?



madville

(7,412 posts)
5. No, didn't stick around long enough for them to fill it
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:18 PM
Aug 2015

I applied for and accepted a similar operator position at a different company.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
6. I haven't followed this...is it another Hostess? Is Mitt Romney and ilk waiting in the wings
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 02:24 AM
Aug 2015

to eviscerate the company for profit?

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