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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:48 PM Aug 2015

Jeb Bush Heckled over Iraq War: ‘Your Brother Signed a Bad Deal!’

Source: Mediaite



Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush was heckled during an Iowa speech over his brother George W. Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq.

(...)

“We had to get out in 2011!” the heckler yelled.

Despite the interruption, Bush kept his composure. “We didn’t have to get out in 2011,” he retorted.

“Your brother signed the deal!” the heckler continued.



Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/jeb-bush-heckled-over-iraq-war-your-brother-signed-a-bad-deal/





I wonder if the Jeb! folks are beginning to regret the brilliant idea of making the Iraq debacle the centerpiece of their campaign.
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Jeb Bush Heckled over Iraq War: ‘Your Brother Signed a Bad Deal!’ (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 OP
Ouch! madashelltoo Aug 2015 #1
Your brother's a criminal and a moron! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #2
+1000 CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #3
Thank you for your interest in the open position, Mr. Bush Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #4
I honestly don't think Jeb's heart is in this CanonRay Aug 2015 #5
Somehow, I don't think it matters. RiverNoord Aug 2015 #10
I thought he would manage to get over the low bar Cosmocat Aug 2015 #13
I agree entirely. RiverNoord Aug 2015 #14
Iowa and Nevada are getting fed up with Jeb Bush. It shows on his face. seafan Aug 2015 #6
More hecklers! I think Heb! will get rattled if people keep asking him inconvenient questions... Hekate Aug 2015 #7
Good god. RiverNoord Aug 2015 #15
Lying seems to come naturally to all of them. Cal33 Aug 2015 #11
So... If I understand the plan... RiverNoord Aug 2015 #12
Yeah we do need to do something else davidpdx Aug 2015 #8
Jeb Bush is to afraid to even interview with todays Iraq Government. Sunlei Aug 2015 #9
He's even beginning to sound like his brother the chimp aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #16
science should study the Bush's brains olddots Aug 2015 #17
That wasn't "heckling"; that was great s**t. candelista Aug 2015 #18

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. Thank you for your interest in the open position, Mr. Bush
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:31 PM
Aug 2015

Please don't call us. We'll call you.

Meanwhile, please take your brother, run along and get lost. Both of your.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
10. Somehow, I don't think it matters.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:16 PM
Aug 2015

He could say that the Vietnam war was our greatest military triumph and the GOP Establishment, desperate as it is to find a marginally sane candidate for the Presidency, would back him to the hilt. He can be as stupid as an amoeba (no offense intended to amoebas), but he's a Bush and panders to the wacko wing only to the extent that his advisers tell him is necessary.

Being stupid and inclined to making really stupid public statements have never been barriers to the GOP nomination...

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
13. I thought he would manage to get over the low bar
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

at the outset, but he is truly a bad candidate and I agree his heart is not in it.

His brother was a moron, but after he lost his first race let Rove coach him up and was SUPER disciplined with what he said when campaigning.

Further, he had that smarmy "charm" thing that the evangelicals lapped up and got over on a lot of people.

Big brother is just a dim witted, frankly, and minus his brother's discipline and frat boy charm, is just not as sure a bet as I thought he might be.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
14. I agree entirely.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:48 AM
Aug 2015

I have been appalled at the truly bizarre prospect of another Clinton v. Bush presidential election, but I think Jeb won't quite make the grade. And quite possibly not Clinton either, but that's another matter altogether.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
6. Iowa and Nevada are getting fed up with Jeb Bush. It shows on his face.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:31 PM
Aug 2015

Somehow, the Shock and Awe Right to Rise Dark Money $114 million SuperPAC campaign isn't going according to plan.



Jeb Bush at the Iowa State Fair on Friday, August 14, 2015
via Mashable

Jeb Bush Responds To Iowan Who Says "Your Brother Signed The Deal" To Exit Iraq In 2011, August 14, 2015



An attendee of the Iowa State Fair heckles GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush over his policy proposal to restart the Iraq war in earnest to eliminate ISIS.

"Will we be welcomed as liberators again? Or," asks the man.

"Right now we have 3,500 soldiers and Marines in Iraq already," replies Bush. President Obama has deployed them in groups of a few hunded every few months since 2013. "We have no startegy, it jsut kind of creeps up, we're responding incrementally to the problems that exist rather than having a strategy," Bush says.

"What I've heard from the advisors is, first of all, the Iraqis want our help..." Bush began.

"They wanted us out in 2011," the Iowan voter yells.

"Excuse me?" Bush says. &quot We) didn't have to get out in 2011."

"Your brother signed the deal!"

President Bush planned the 2011 withdrawal before 2007 because it was safely outside his term limit.

"It could have been modified and that was the expectation. Everybody in Iraq and everybody in the administration knew this deal could have been expanded."

"Your brother signed a bad deal!"

"And now we have to do something else," suggests Bush. "Deal with the fact that we have Islamic terrorists organized as a caliphate."

Bush's policy: more weapons to Iraqi "moderates."

"Rebuild the Iraqi military, arm the Kurds, reengage with the Sunnis... And we need to do the same thing in Syria."



Jeb is NOT HAPPY with this line of questioning from the masses.


And, it is now emerging that Jeb Bush lied about the "meeting" he claims he had with Black Lives Matter activists before his speech in Las Vegas. Didn't happen.

Apparently, only AFTER he was questioned by BLM during his presentation, and avoided answering, did a spontaneous chant arise from BLM in the audience. Then, his campaign puts out a statement that claims that Bush met with BLM BEFORE his speech. Clearly, that didn't happen.


WASHINGTON -- A Las Vegas campaign event for GOP presidential contender Jeb Bush came to a sudden end this week as activists, unhappy with how Bush addressed a question on racial injustice, chanted, "Black Lives Matter."

After the confrontation, the Bush campaign said the candidate had privately met with advocates for the movement before the event, an assertion that appeared in multiple articles about the disruption.

But that description is misleading, The Huffington Post has learned.

There was a meeting, but no activists from the Black Lives Matter movement participated. Instead, Bush met with a local elected official, a GOP lobbyist and a staffer from an anti-poverty organization.

Kevin Hooks, president and CEO of the Las Vegas Urban League, told HuffPost he set up the meeting at the Bush campaign's behest. His organization focuses on providing job opportunities for low-income residents. Hooks said that while he respects Bush for reaching out, he would not characterize the people at the meeting as Black Lives Matter activists. "It's a little disingenuous," he said.

There were three people at the table with Bush. Hooks confirmed that a member of his staff was one of them. North Las Vegas Mayor Pro Tem Pamela Goynes-Brown was the second, and she said the third attendee was Sean Fellows, a registered lobbyist for a communications firm who once ran as a Republican candidate for state assembly. The Las Vegas Sun once reported that he wore through his New Balances campaigning, and the photo accompanying the article showed him sporting pleated khakis.

.....

The Bush campaign did not comment on whether it stood by its statement that the candidate met with Black Lives Matter advocates. The campaign said that advocates were invited, and couldn't speak to why people might not want to attend.

.....

Jamie Hall, who supports Black Lives Matter, stood up during the Q&A session and listed statistics about racial disparities in police killings. She asked Bush how he planned to address issues such as the school-to-prison pipeline.

Bush responded that there are "serious problems," and that "there is racism in America, no one should deny that."

Tenisha Martin asked Bush, "How do you relate to it?" She told HuffPost that she is a single mom with a teenage son whom she sends out every day, "nervous he may not come home."

Bush, visibly annoyed at the interruption, pivoted to discussing his plan for education reform and took no more questions. Jeanne DuBose told HuffPost, "We weren't interrupting; we were listening. And once (Hall) asked her question, that was it. He turned around, he started to walk away," she said. "We stood up and we started chanting, 'Black Lives Matter.' He just ignored that."

Attendees described the chant as a spontaneous outbreak. "We weren't happy or satisfied or any of that with his answers," Martin said.




All of this is very easy to understand when viewed in the context of a question asked of Jeb Bush during his failed campaign for Florida governor in 1994.

He would have been President of the United States before his brother George but the first time Jeb Bush ran for governor in 1994 he lost. During the campaign Bush was asked by reporters what his administration might do for Black Floridians. He made a tactical blunder. He gave an honest answer. He said, "Probably nothing." Jeb Bush got 4% of the African-American vote and Lawton Chiles beat him in a close race.



We Floridians had this early clue in 1994 as to what kind of governor Jeb Bush would be for minorities.

He has not changed in the least.







Hekate

(90,714 posts)
7. More hecklers! I think Heb! will get rattled if people keep asking him inconvenient questions...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:46 AM
Aug 2015

....while he, a PNAC signatory, is trying to rewrite history and whitewash his brother.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
15. Good god.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:08 AM
Aug 2015

I didn't know that he signed the founding 'Statement of Principles.' I was astounded when he took on Wolfowitz as a 'foreign policy advisor,' a rotten-to-the-core bastard who should be in prison, but I didn't know Jeb himself was PNAC.

Makes we wonder if his main goal as a candidate for the Presidency is to ensure that his brother and Darth Cheney stay out of prison...

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
12. So... If I understand the plan...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:52 PM
Aug 2015

1) Rebuild the Iraqi military. Does that mean tracking down the surviving former members of the trained military that were dismissed en masse right after the invasion, most of whom were Sunnis and kept their arms, and many of whom went on to participate in the most effective anti-occupation guerrilla activities against our forces? Maybe the Shia-dominated government would find it in their hearts to provide 12 years of back-pay to those who return? With a good enough deal, maybe they could even re-recruit the ex-generals who created and still run ISIS? Yep, that makes sense - the new nearly exclusively Shia Iraqi 'military' would welcome them with open arms.

2) Arm the Kurds. Which Kurds? The Kurds of semi-autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan? Do we provide them with tanks and heavy artillery - maybe a few aging F-16s? While we're 'rebuilding' the Iraqi military? The writing is already on the wall for Iraqi Kurdistan - there's no way they'll ever consent to being 'Iraqi' except in purely symbolic terms. So... we should enable their Peshmerga to seize more territory from ISIS, increasing the likelihood of a direct conflict with the Iraqi 'government' (fundamentalist Shia-led, and mainly in control of the Southern Shia-majority regions, as well as the thoroughly ethnically-cleansed Baghdad).
And we should 'do the same thing in Syria?' So.. we'd arm Syrian Kurds, who have largely supported the Baath regime since the civil war began?
Or should we arm the PKK, which is on our 'Terrorist groups' list? Yep, that would go over very well with our Turkish NATO allies.

3) Reengage with the Sunnis. O...K... Well, pretty much every Sunni group, tribe, or town that participated in armed conflict in cooperation with our forces during our occupation has been massively screwed by the 'Iraqi government' afterwards. The cities and towns that fell to ISIS in Iraq only did so because their majority Sunni populations hated the Shia 'government' military so much that they actively aided the takeovers. ISIS is a strictly Sunni group, and, even as brutal as it has been while 'ruling' in the areas it has seized, it is the only Sunni group in Iraq to demonstrate the ability to fight the Shia government forces. So - basically, by 'reengaging' with the Sunnis, we're really engaging with ISIS. Maybe we would be able to win over ISIS to the anti-ISIS coalition? That would be genius!

Where do idiots like Fern (Shrub was already taken) get these talking points? His 'foreign policy team' has a bunch of original neocons like Paul Wolfowitz in it - are they feeding him bullshit or do they really just want to completely depopulate the former Iraq?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
16. He's even beginning to sound like his brother the chimp
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

He was recently questioned about the African Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram, which Jeb pronounced "Beaucoup Harem".

He was unable to recall the name of the head of iSIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and instead described him as “the guy that’s the supreme leader or whatever his new title is — head of the caliphate.”

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