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ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:26 PM Aug 2015

Michael Sam tweets his departure from football, citing mental health

Source: ESPN

Michael Sam will step away from professional football, he announced via Twitter on Friday night.

Sam, the 25-year-old who began the season with the CFL's Montreal Alouettes, cited a tumultuous past year for leaving football at this time.

The Alouettes confirmed in a release that Sam has left the club for "personal reasons" and that he has been added to the team's suspended list.

Sam made the announcement in a series of three tweets.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13440475/michael-sam-announces-stepping-away-football



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Michael Sam tweets his departure from football, citing mental health (Original Post) ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 OP
That makes me so sad. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #1
It will be a long time before another gay comes out before being a NFL success first Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #3
He was way more than talented enough to play in the NFL. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #5
Best defensive player in the SEC = hell of a talented baller. Still In Wisconsin Aug 2015 #6
I think it may be more to do with the breakup of his relationship. 7962 Aug 2015 #7
nah, he really wasn't fbc Aug 2015 #13
Being a great college player doesn't always lead to being a great pro player Freddie Stubbs Aug 2015 #22
That is sad. madaboutharry Aug 2015 #2
Word on the street is he is partying a lot. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #4
don't a lot of sports players do that JI7 Aug 2015 #10
yeah but if you do it too much dsc Aug 2015 #12
Also it depends who you are Yupster Aug 2015 #21
In the 40's dsc Aug 2015 #8
He was not talented enough for the NFL. former9thward Aug 2015 #19
I wish him well Botany Aug 2015 #9
That is what it was all about. He wasn't quite good enough brush Aug 2015 #15
He was a great player in big time college football but just not right for the pro game. Botany Aug 2015 #16
Yup, great collegiate player but not able to make the jump to the NFL... Imajika Aug 2015 #20
One other thing I just thought of dsc Aug 2015 #11
I go there frequently. a la izquierda Aug 2015 #18
Very sad. romanic Aug 2015 #14
I think he probably realized he didn't have the talent to ever play at the highest level aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #17

Omaha Steve

(99,635 posts)
3. It will be a long time before another gay comes out before being a NFL success first
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:47 PM
Aug 2015

He was the SEC best defensive player.

Your right. So sad.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
5. He was way more than talented enough to play in the NFL.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:56 PM
Aug 2015

It's a damn shame that he felt so bad about his treatment it caused his mental health to deteriorate.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
6. Best defensive player in the SEC = hell of a talented baller.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:02 PM
Aug 2015

You're right. What a damned shame. Dude was a beast at Mizzou.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. I think it may be more to do with the breakup of his relationship.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:02 PM
Aug 2015

He was taking that hard when it happened. maybe he just couldnt focus on football

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
13. nah, he really wasn't
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:13 PM
Aug 2015

It's tough to make the leap to the NFL. Sometimes great college players do not have the physical attributes necessary, and sometimes the opposite happens where mediocre college careers are overlooked for physical attributes. Either way, the level of success in college does not necessarily translate.

Sam, a linebacker in college, projected to a 4-3 DE in the pros. So, that rules out around half the teams in the NFL, the ones that play a 3-4, immediately. And unless he was a sensational pass rusher, he's small for a 4-3 DE. If a team is going to try and develop a project at DE they'd rather start with a bigger, more athletic player that would have more upside if he does make it.

On one hand, I think he would make an interesting project for my team, the Eagles, because Chip Kelly likes high character players. But Kelly runs the 4-3. Sam certainly can't play on the line. The Eagles DEs have several inches on him and outweigh him by 40-50 pounds. So, OLB? The Eagles just promoted Brandon Graham, a 13th pick in the 1st round five years ago. They drafted an OLB in the first round last year and he can't get on the field. It's not as easy as showing up and saying, "I was a star in the SEC, sign me up"

That said, I hope everything works out for him and he gets through his current issues.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
12. yeah but if you do it too much
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:57 PM
Aug 2015

and don't back it up on the field their can be Hell to pay. Just ask Johnny Manzel.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
21. Also it depends who you are
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

Teams will let a star quarterback or running back or receiver get away with a lot more than they'll let a marginal lineman get away with. If you're on the offensive or defensive line, you need to not give the coach any problems.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
8. In the 40's
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:13 PM
Aug 2015

they were very careful who they picked to redesegregate major league baseball, a luxury they could afford since there were hundreds of black players from which to choose. Michael Sam clearly was talented enough to play but couldn't handle the immense pressure. I fear it will be years, if not a decade or more, before the next player willing to do this comes along. Baseball has one in the minors now, I have no idea if his talent level is such that he can make the majors.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
19. He was not talented enough for the NFL.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 05:47 PM
Aug 2015

That is why he was in the CFL. He was too small and too slow to play his positions in the NFL.

Botany

(70,506 posts)
9. I wish him well
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:20 PM
Aug 2015

Too small to play D-line and too slow to play linebacker .... I hope Michael finds joy
in his life.

brush

(53,778 posts)
15. That is what it was all about. He wasn't quite good enough
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 11:43 AM
Aug 2015

In the one game he played in the CFL he didn't have a single tackle.

He just wasn't good enough to make the jump from college to professional football.

It happens. Tim Tebow, a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback in college hasn't made the jump to the pros either.

Time to move on with life for Sam.

I wish him well.

Botany

(70,506 posts)
16. He was a great player in big time college football but just not right for the pro game.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:26 PM
Aug 2015

but @ 6' 2" and 250 he is too small to play d-line where he would be up against players who
average >300 LBS and are at least 6' 5" and he was too slow to play linebacker and came in
dead last in the bench press ...... # of times benching 220 LBS.

I have watched and been a fan of Ohio State for 40 years and I have seen really good buckeye
players get cut from NFL teams in the first round a number of times.

I got a chance to speak w/a former OSU O lineman (NFL all pro) and asked him what were the differnces between
the levels that he played at and he said:

(something like)

High School he was the best player on the field and once or twice a season he would play a team
that had another player that was about his equal

Ohio State ....... 5 to 10 players of great skill on his team and against other big time teams he would
see a few players that were at his level ...... Michigan and USC always had as many if not more players
as good as he was.

NFL Everybody was crazy good and that included the "worst teams."

Sam couldn't even make the practice squad for 2 NFL teams or even play @ the CFL level.

Mike might make a good high school coach and teacher or somerhing else ..... I wish him well
and hope that he finds his joy. Being gay had little to do w/him not making the cut in the NFL.


Imajika

(4,072 posts)
20. Yup, great collegiate player but not able to make the jump to the NFL...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:08 PM
Aug 2015

This is very common. Nothing really unusual about it.

The Rams and the Cowboys gave him a shot and he wasn't able to remain on their practice squad. As a Dallas fan, I followed Sam's progress. He got a lot of compliments from the Cowboy's coaches for working hard, doing everything that was asked of him, staying away from the media, etc, but there are just too many other guys that have the needed physical attributes that Sam was lacking for the position he wanted to play.

The NFL is absolutely cut throat, and only a tiny % of college players will ever make it in the pro's.

Sam can still remain around football. He can get into coaching at some level, try his hand at broadcasting, etc.

In time there will be plenty of openly gay NFL players.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
11. One other thing I just thought of
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:37 PM
Aug 2015

I wonder how isolated he felt up in Montreal. I presume he doesn't speak French.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
18. I go there frequently.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

It's not a big deal at all. Maybe in rural Quebec, that would be a factor, but young Quebecois who live in Montreal are almost all bilingual (and often trilingual at that).

romanic

(2,841 posts)
14. Very sad.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:22 AM
Aug 2015

I think being thrust into the spotlight just because of his sexuality made things complicated; add that along with his breakup in his relationship and the high expectations placed upon him - that's so much stress. I hope Michael gets the help he needs.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
17. I think he probably realized he didn't have the talent to ever play at the highest level
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:12 PM
Aug 2015

although he was an extraordinary college star. That step up to the top pro level is a big one for many college stars.

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