Vigilante border militiamen busted after 'stealing cocaine from fake drug cartel in FBI sting operat

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Daily Mail

Vigilante border militiamen busted after 'stealing cocaine from fake drug cartel in FBI sting operation' and saying they would kill for money

Parris Frazier, Robert Deatherage and Erik Foster were part of the Arizona Special Operations Group militia that patrolled near southern US border

Undercover FBI agent offered them jobs stealing money from fake drug cartel operations before they allegedly agreed to steal and sell cocaine

Three men led SWAT teams on chase after taking cocaine and cocaine stimulant from warehouse that they supposedly would sell for $75,000

Frazier also allegedly said that his men would kill a fictional cousin of the undercover agent for money

By Christopher Brennan For Dailymail.com

Published: 11:57 EST, 15 August 2015 | Updated: 12:43 EST, 15 August 2015


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The FBI arrested three men including Parris Frazier (left and right) for allegedly stealing cocaine from a fake drug cartel
with intent to sell it to an undercover FBI agent in Arizona



Robert Deatherage (pictured) was also arrested during the sting operation. Frazier had told the undercover agent providing
him with information about fake drug activity that he would get 25 per cent of the money made
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Arizona border vigilantes have been charged with intent to sell cocaine after they supposedly stole five kilograms of the substance from a fake drug cartel during an FBI sting operation.

Parris Frazier, Robert Deatherage and Erik Foster of the Arizona Special Operations Group militia were arrested in July after taking cocaine from a vehicle at a warehouse off of a highway between Phoenix and Flagstaff.

Frazier had previously told an undercover FBI agent that he was willing to steal cash, drugs or kill anyone who needed to be 'taken out' to make money for his group.

A complaint against the men, who previously gained notoriety for providing anti-Muslim activist John Ritzheimer with security at one of his events, says that they have been under investigation since January.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199241/Vigilante-border-militiamen-busted-stealing-cocaine-fake-drug-cartel-FBI-sting-operation-saying-kill-money.html#ixzz3iuaLCAss

[cosmicone]

1. Good for the FBI.

Some here will cry entrapment though

[Enrique]

14. entrapment did come to mind for me

or the general idea of arresting people for potential crimes.

I'm glad that at DU there are people that are consistent about these concerns regardless of politics.

[onethatcares]

16. no, google is your friend

pre deposition is not entrapment. Taking what they could just showed they were willing to follow through with their own plans. In other words, if there is a pile of money on the table or a pile of cocaine or whatever and it's been provided by the law enforcement types and they take part of it that is not entrapment.

Went down that road a long, long time ago. Took me years to understand the reasoning.

[WDIM]

28. The agent hired them. The agent is just as guilty of the crime.

Breaking the law to enforce the law is not rational.

[PosterChild]

34. "Breaking the law" to enforce it certainly is...

...rational and reasonable . For instance, the police exceed the speed limit when they go after a speeder. Is that unreasonable? Is that irrational? No.

So called "entrapment" is especially necessary (and therfore rational) in the case of crimes involving conspiracy.

I'm glad the FBI went after these violent assholes and took them down. They were a threat to public safety and the rule of law - which is incompatible with armed, rogue vigilantes.

[WDIM]

40. The FBI created the conspiracy and the crime.

They have to create the crime. It keeps their budgets up and job security.

The Government has been dealing drugs since atleast the 60s. They do this to create crime. These drug dealing under cover agents created the crime that they stopped.

Edit and the police can break the speed limit to chase a speeder if it is safe and reasonable to do so.

If one innocent life would of been lost in this crime scheme the FBI created they would be directly responsible. The best thing is so far as we know nobody died.

[PosterChild]

42. LOL.... The government

.. doesn't have to "create crime",there is more thab enough ti keep them busy.

Si you don't live drug laws ? OK, talk to your fellow citizens about it . ... the coos enforce the law, they don't make it.

[Cal33]

46. Most of those who get caught are small fry. I wonder who the big fish are. They never get caught.

[Bohemianwriter]

21. The drug was has failed...

When they use entrapment, then it's just as much a crime as dealing the drugs in itself. Inwhich is shouldn't be in the first place.

When will prohibitionists learn?

[PosterChild]

35. No, it certainly is not...

... officers who are investigating crimes that involve conspiracy, corruption and racketeering have to use entrapment to effectively enforce the law. You may disagree with a particular law - but that does not mean efforts to enforce it are wrong.

Object to the law, not to law enforcement.

[Bohemianwriter]

50. With 1 million in prison alone

for pot, and people still smoke it, your argument falls on it's own. If your arguments was valid, a mere protest and not outspread violation of prohibition in the 20s wasn't necessary.

An old wise writer once wrote "in order for a society to evolve, both written and unwritten laws must be broken".

And putting pot smokers and small time dealers who are just trying to make a living in the same environment as rapists, murderers, bank robbers, and war criminals, then you are no better than the criminals.

Wonder if entrapment is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

[PosterChild]

54. I'm not sure what relevance your . ..

.... statistic regarding incarnation has to the question of whether or not so-called entrapment is or is not a legitimate and effectve law enforcement technique. I believe it is, most people do, and so does the legal system. You haven't offered any argument to the contrary. Specifically, it isn't not a violation of the 14th ammendment - search and seizure is not involved.

As far as the necessity of breaking laws to oppose an injustice is concerned that sounds like civil disobedience. Whatever it's merits might be, the incarcerated pot smokers you are concerned about aren't engaged in civil disobedience. They are simply law breakers.

[Bohemianwriter]

55. The entire drug war has been a moral failure...

costing millions of lives, yet no one has had the guts to do what Jimmy Carter tried during his presidency; ending the drug war. It's not only offensive, it's also unconstitutional at core, since it violates people's 1st and 4th amendment rights to freely associate and right to privacy. He is also right about his conclusion that USA has become an oligarchy. Both parties are being run by the same corporatism, hell bent on upholding status quo and their privileges. (Ironic how both outsiders pointing that out. One who brags about owning half of the candidates on the podium, including the Clintons and are now using his daddy's money to become Berlusconi, and a small time mayor who once got arrested for fighting for civil rights in the 60's an completely uncorrupt. Pardon my digression)

As far as Hillary goes, seems that her husband drove a hard line policies, extending Reagan's destructive drug laws. And as far as I know, Hillary is not interested in ending it, or stopping minorities being disproportionately targeted. I am not holding her personally responsible for what her husband did, but it rings a bell when she gives no indication of changing course.
And her big LOSS was her dismissive tone towards people with legit grievances who have at least Bernie Sanders ear.

In my view, the prohibition is a giant violation of basic human rights, and every single person being caught in Clinton's, Bush jr. Bush sr, or Reagan's net will be victimized and risk their lives as jizzcatchers for REAL criminals are by de facto political prisoners based on laws that resembles more the absurdity under pure dictatorships.
No country is allowed to call itself democratic as long as their governments are kidnapping, using violence and holding people hostage, risking their lives and health at the hands of prison guards and violent criminals who do no harm to others and little or no harm to themselves.

All progress is dependent on unreasonable and reprehensible laws are broken. And as of right now, there are 20 milllion Americans who will break federal law this weekend. There are still 1 million Americans in prison as well at this moment just for drugs.

I just wonder, would Hillary Clinton have refunded her campaign donations from private prison companies if someone didn't point out the fact that these prisons make billions of dollars in funneling black kids directly from school to prison?

[yellowcanine]

49. Doesn't matter what people here says. What a jury says is what matters.

These cases can be tough to get convictions on. All it takes is one juror who thinks it is entrapment.

[shenmue]

2. Bet they're Trump supporters

[tabasco]

3. My guess is that none of these douchebags "playing Army"

ever spent a day in the military.

[jalan48]

4. People can be so naive.

Just because someone dresses up like a soldier and waves the flag doesn't mean they are honest. It just shows how gullible people can be when presented with symbols of patriotism.

[ArizonaLib]

5. FBI identifies the real border criminals

Typical racist hypocrites. Law and Order Conservatives? Thugs.

[Xipe Totec]

6. I love the smell of fascists in the morning. They smell like viscera. nt

[7962]

7. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[SunSeeker]

8. Jail is where these racist murderous douchebags belong. nt

[Eugene]

9. With patriots like these, who needs ISIL?

[Fairgo]

10. Behold, your home grown terrorists

They are righteous and above the law...at least in their dark little minds.

[WDIM]

29. The FBI and Law enforcement breaking the law

Is the real terrorism in this country.

[Fairgo]

30. No, not in this specific case

What I see in this specific case is an organised political group, seeking money & influence through illegal means to extend their collective ability to intimidate locals and shut down discourse through threats of violence. They are currently unaffiliated Brownshirts, looking for a master. The FBI was not engaged in terrorism thus defined. You may not like the strategy, but it is not terrorism. Not sure how the local police entered into this FBI sting, but conflating deception working under cover of law with the seditious intent of these self-appointed extralegal goon squads is not a coherent line of reasoning.

[PosterChild]

37. +100 ! (Nm)

[PosterChild]

36. Exactly how do you construe laws enforcement...

.... to be law breaking?

[WDIM]

39. Conspiracy to commit a crime is against the law.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

51. There was no real crime going to occur.

Sting operations don't actually commit crimes. When they do a sting to bust guys for prostitution, the undercover female agents don't ever actually have sex with the johns and so on.

[treestar]

52. are you against undercover operations?

[vlyons]

11. Alas, you can't fix stupid

Greed for money -- surprise surprise

[KG]

13. kindly requesting self deletion of unfunny prison rape reference.

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. Glad to see 7-0 rejection of deeply stupid and offensive prison rape joke

Maybe we've turned a corner on this kind of shit.

[truebluegreen]

17. Seconded.

[MrScorpio]

15. Finally, an FBI that got the right people. nt.

[kristopher]

18. Only one local outlet in AZ seems to be carrying this story.

http://www.kpho.com/story/29765418/fbi-militia-members-moonlighted-as-drug-cash-rip-crew

The daily mail's coverage is better IMO.

[Historic NY]

26. Talking points has more

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/parris-frazier-patriot-militia-drug-bust

[valerief]

19. I'm shocked these militianuts aren't purtectin' Amer'ca.

Who could have imagined they were up to no good?

[Rozlee]

20. LOL. No more playing around in macho military duds for you guys.

Dayglo orange looks just so mean girl.

[freshwest]

22. Need thirty years to detox from Fox. n/t

[Historic NY]

23. Same types were involved in killing along the border too...

They are opportunists in many case have a prior history of violence or criminal activity.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/minuteman-movement-border-crisis-simcox

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/investigating-deaths-undocumented-immigrants-border

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/12/headlines/immigrants_ambushed_killed_by_armed_militia_in_arizona

[PersonNumber503602]

24. While I find it somewhat amusing these guys were busted, and I'm not shedding any tears

I really despise these sorts of FBI sting operations. They are basically creating a crime in order to arrest people who may possibly commit a real crime if the opportunity ever arose. I'm assuming it's legal, but it really shouldn't be.

[WDIM]

27. The FBI agent broke the law by offering them jobs.

He was part of the conspiracy and head of the operation. He hired these men to commit a crime therefore he committed a crime to catch people in a crime. That is wrong the law enforcers should not be allowed to break the law to enforce the law.

For all we know thr FBI still resold that cocaine in the street. In another "sting" operation. More like entrapment operation.

[Historic NY]

32. Ah no he just provided an opportunity that was part of the plan...

and the cocaine was cocaine simulant.

[WDIM]

41. If one bystander would of died the FBI would be responsible.

They could of just arrested them for conspiracy without the stealing and high speed chase.

Just the mere discussion of the crime with the undercover agent was enough. They put the public in danger by giving some guns nuts direction to do actual crime and allowing them to follow through with it.

For all we know they stole actual cocaine from actual drug dealers and the FBI replaced it with simulant. Then sold the real stuff and busted these guns nuts. Which is fine that they got busted but the FBI is just as wrong in this one amd commited conspiracy themselves.

[OldRedneck]

31. Robert Deathearge -- pictured above -- is a real BADASS

Let's check out his photo and run down the Badass Checklist

Camo do-rag? Check
Wrap-around sunglasses? Check
Cheap desert camo scarf, purchased from Ranger Joe's, Columbus, GA? Check
Thigh Holster? Check
Cheap AK with 30-round mags taped together? Check
Scruffy little beard? Check

I notice he's wearing a couple of military-style badges:
-- SNIPER tab -- says who? That's not exactly a sniper rifle he's toting.
-- Captain's insignia on his chest. Captain of what -- local Girl Scouts?

These clowns make me ROTFLMAO.

What I'd REALLY like to do is sneak up behind a group of them, set off a string of firecrackers, and watch 'em kill shit all over themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PosterChild]

38. +10 ! (Nm)

[Turbineguy]

48. Isn't that an

AK-47 that patriot is toting?

[Darb]

53. Don't forget his American Spirit cigs.

Those yellow ones are the "lights".

[OldRedneck]

33. As I recall . . .

As I recall, there was story from about a year ago of how these terrorists also are members of the Oathkeepers in Arizona.

[KansDem]

43. At least now Mr. Frazier will get his border wall...

Not the one separating the US and Mexico, but the one surrounding him in prison.

[Sunlei]

44. wonder how many people, Mexicans, those border vigilantes have killed or left in the desert,

without water.

[Devil Child]

45. Good job FBI

3 less pieces of garbage littering my state.

[AlbertCat]

47. It's like a Monty Python joke!!!!

"Vigilante border militiamen busted after 'stealing cocaine' from fake drug cartel in FBI sting operation"

Unbelievable!