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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:18 AM Aug 2015

Obama can do Iran nuclear deal even if Congress disapproves

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — The September vote on the Iran nuclear deal is billed as a titanic standoff between President Barack Obama and Congress. Yet even if lawmakers reject the agreement, it’s not game-over for the White House.

A congressional vote of disapproval would not prevent Obama from acting on his own to start putting the accord in place. While he probably would take some heavy criticism, this course would let him add the foreign policy breakthrough to his second-term list of accomplishments.

Obama doesn’t need a congressional OK to give Iran most of the billions of dollars in relief from economic sanctions that it would get under the agreement, as long as Tehran honors its commitments to curb its nuclear program — at least for now.

“A resolution to disapprove the Iran agreement may have substantial political reverberations, but limited practical impact,” says Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “It would not override President Obama’s authority to enter into the agreement.”

Read more: http://www.salon.com/2015/08/16/obama_can_do_iran_nuclear_deal_even_if_congress_disapproves/

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Obama can do Iran nuclear deal even if Congress disapproves (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
It's my understanding that all he needs is 34 votes in the Senate to block a veto override.... George II Aug 2015 #1
My money is on Nancy in House lobodons Aug 2015 #3
This ashling Aug 2015 #4
One would think so. Turbineguy Aug 2015 #2
Obama has got this, folks. Always had it. Still does. Do not adjust the horizontal or the vertical. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #5
googling Satloff to get past positions, do not trust him karynnj Aug 2015 #6
If they override his veto, and he does the deal anyway... Johnyawl Aug 2015 #7
He can't veto it, only ignore it. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #10
And since foreign policy is the responsibility of the Executive Branch... randome Aug 2015 #11
The constitution requires ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #12
I wouldn't expect anything else less intelligent mdbl Aug 2015 #8
Good, I hope he does it. trillion Aug 2015 #9

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. It's my understanding that all he needs is 34 votes in the Senate to block a veto override....
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:48 AM
Aug 2015

...and/or 144 in the House. If either of them sustain the veto the deal should go through.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
3. My money is on Nancy in House
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:51 AM
Aug 2015

Nancy will have her caucus together. She knows how to get things done!!

ashling

(25,771 posts)
4. This
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:59 AM
Aug 2015
“A resolution to disapprove the Iran agreement may have substantial political reverberations, but limited practical impact,” says Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

“It would not override President Obama’s authority to enter into the agreement.”

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)
2. One would think so.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:48 AM
Aug 2015

The special powers that the republican congress gave to Bush would cover it. Repubs just love dictators.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. googling Satloff to get past positions, do not trust him
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Aug 2015

He argued in the early Obama years that sanctions against Iran were not enough. US military power should be used in some unspecified ways. Thid, he said would give Obama more ability on the Israeli/Palestinian issue.

He is a neo con and against the deal. Now, consider what the impact of this idea is. Many on the fence seem concerned with the consequences of the deal failing. This is an attempt - completely dishonest - to get enough of those votes.

The question is whether you really think Obama and Kerry are either less aware of what could be done or are not being honest on consequences.

PS. If this was true, wouldn't Schumer have used it? This guy is a neo con and head of a pro Israel think tank.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
7. If they override his veto, and he does the deal anyway...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

...expect the republicans in the House to vote a Bill of Impeachment.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. And since foreign policy is the responsibility of the Executive Branch...
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

...he'd only be doing his job, which is a hell of a lot more than can be said about Congress.
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ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
12. The constitution requires
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

congressional approval to go to war and to enter into treaties. It also gives congress legislative authority over trade and immigration. So while the particulars of this issue may be such that Obama can avoid congress, the notion that foreign policy is the responsibility of the executive alone is a myth. Congress has a very real and important role to play, as they should.

Whether they choose fulfill that duty wisely, or at all, is of course a different story.

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