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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:39 AM Aug 2015

Mike Huckabee: 10-year-old rape victim should be forced to carry rapist’s baby

Source: RawStory

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee argued over the weekend that a 10-year-old girl should have been forced to carry her pregnancy to term after she was raped. During an interview on Sunday, CNN host Dana Bash asked the GOP candidate if he would refuse an abortion to a 10-year-old girl in Paraguay, who was allegedly raped by her stepfather.

“Creating one problem that is horrible — let nobody be misled, a 10-year-old girl being raped is horrible — but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?” Huckabee said. “And that’s really the issue.”

The former Arkansas governor recalled that he had known a man who was born as the result of a rape after doctors in Texas refused to give his mother an abortion.

“Today, his organization feeds, cares for and brings living capacity for water to hundreds of thousands of people across the world,” Huckabee noted. “That would never have happened… So when I think about one horror, I also think about the possibilities.”

-snip-

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/mike-huckabee-10-year-old-rape-victim-should-be-forced-to-carry-rapists-baby/

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Mike Huckabee: 10-year-old rape victim should be forced to carry rapist’s baby (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
What a disgusting homo sapiens. I hesitate to use the word human to describe him. nt valerief Aug 2015 #1
he is a lowlife fucker and I wish him to live forever so people can throw rocks. roguevalley Aug 2015 #26
Homo stultus exboyfil Aug 2015 #73
That policy promotes rape...why can't he see that? duhneece Aug 2015 #122
How very low can this rw rapist promoting jerk go? lark Aug 2015 #2
Absolutely sick. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #81
He wouldn't provide any prenatal or infant care, of course LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2015 #101
Since when do two wrongs make a right? Since NEVER. He is a monster. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #3
"Monster" is the first word that came to my mind also. KeepItReal Aug 2015 #32
He's a real sicko. nt City Lights Aug 2015 #4
This is utterly psychotic ... n/t cosmicone Aug 2015 #5
What a load of self-serving bull - and Huckleberry pal, LiberalElite Aug 2015 #6
Sick pig of a man. TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #7
Please don't insult pigs... Hepburn Aug 2015 #40
Note that the girl matters not at all....she isn't even part of the calculus....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #8
Exactly! That poor girl! trusty elf Aug 2015 #13
The cells she carries in her are worth more than her....that's how the right sees her. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #20
The reason that this became dogma of the church demigoddess Aug 2015 #82
100% correct Freddie Aug 2015 #129
Women and girls reduced to the status of incubators. Paladin Aug 2015 #19
Porta-wombs. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #21
Exactly. He dismissed HER "innocent life." WinkyDink Aug 2015 #52
Exactly! Grrrr! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #83
Nor is it with ISIS. Will anyone ask Dingelberry about that? Uh, no, never. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #106
He Even Says "Innocent Child" ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #141
Yes. Important post. LeftOfWest Aug 2015 #143
He is despicable. trusty elf Aug 2015 #9
Recommend for exposure ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #10
So, who is this water bringing child of rape, Huckster. Hugin Aug 2015 #11
An utterly spurious argument Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #12
I would LOVE to see someone ask him that question! n/t beac Aug 2015 #15
So would I, Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #18
Yes he would deny the abortion because the fetus is worth more contributions than the child is. LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #35
This guy is sick. Send him to a doctor quickly. Paper Roses Aug 2015 #14
Huckleberry hates young girls for their freedom Geronimoe Aug 2015 #16
The ways of these groups (ISIS, Taliban, AQ) are insidious. Al Huquabi is a sleeper cell. erronis Aug 2015 #38
Al Huquabi--I am soooooo stealing that! niyad Aug 2015 #124
crazy as hell, less empathy than a gnat... nt 63splitwindow Aug 2015 #17
Why do so many good people die young... Stargazer09 Aug 2015 #22
Huckabee is just one among many Republicans asjr Aug 2015 #23
Considering how many known pedophiles Huck counts as friends and defends Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #24
Yeah, she was asking for it, that little slut! This will teach her a good lesson!!11!1! PSPS Aug 2015 #25
gag catrose Aug 2015 #27
Pervert. SoapBox Aug 2015 #28
You nailed it. Pervert. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #99
Huckabee couldn't give a crap either way. FarPoint Aug 2015 #29
Donohue and Levitt (2001): Statistical study on the reduction in crime brought about by abortion. DhhD Aug 2015 #30
REc'd for exposure. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #31
He's garbage without the can. n/t sarge43 Aug 2015 #33
Thank you for your interest in the open position, Governor Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #34
He thinks about the "possibilities"????? AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #36
IMO, he is talking about "the possiblilities" of having an available infant ready for adoption me b zola Aug 2015 #65
Oh, I know. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #113
The girl had the baby and her parents adopted the baby. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #128
She had a C-section for fear vaginal delivery TNNurse Aug 2015 #140
I was speaking in general terms. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #142
You are right. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #146
Why am I so skeptical SheilaT Aug 2015 #37
Maybe Huckabee should run for President of Paraguay CanonRay Aug 2015 #39
Huckabee would demand access to the express lane if this girl were his granddaughter. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #41
Okay, that's it. Someone's gotta publish his porn collection. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #42
She gave birth to an 6.6 or 8 pound baby by Caesarean section lostnfound Aug 2015 #43
A young child who was raped . He is a pedo loving asshole Person 2713 Aug 2015 #47
So this wasnt a hypothetical question? Holy shit. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #58
Not only was it real but SHE ISN'T THE YOUNGEST RAPE VICTIM TO GIVE BIRTH at that facility lostnfound Aug 2015 #92
He is a stinking pile of s#@%. nt brer cat Aug 2015 #44
A 10 year old is an innocent CHILD too HockeyMom Aug 2015 #45
Attacks 10 yr old girl, defends pedophile... Bryce Butler Aug 2015 #46
"Rapists for Huckabee" SHRED Aug 2015 #48
That is his bumper sticker. Truly!! kairos12 Aug 2015 #60
This should go viral. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #84
Needs Google-bombing. "Rapists for Huckabee" Ilsa Aug 2015 #105
What a despicable piece of crap. Deadshot Aug 2015 #49
What a disgusting person. Vinca Aug 2015 #50
I hate apocryphal anecdotes that purport to "prove" something. And what is "living capacity for WinkyDink Aug 2015 #51
Huck reminds me once again why I Dawson Leery Aug 2015 #53
Huckabee should be forced to give birth Freddie Aug 2015 #54
First implant a watermelon in his gut and make him carry it for 4 or 5 months LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2015 #98
NOt fair. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #119
This s/b DEBATE question ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2015 #55
What a douchebag. Nt 7962 Aug 2015 #56
Wow. absolute proof Phuckabee has no empathetic grey matter left. nightscanner59 Aug 2015 #57
K&R...Thanks for posting, DonViejo red dog 1 Aug 2015 #59
Yet another reason this sicko should not be Prez. roamer65 Aug 2015 #61
It's one thing to say something this despicable demwing Aug 2015 #62
Huckabee, Walker and Rubio all want to force children to give birth. DirkGently Aug 2015 #63
What the hell? shenmue Aug 2015 #64
The key word here is "force". truthisfreedom Aug 2015 #66
Huckabee is a sick person Gothmog Aug 2015 #67
This man is hiding something... Helen Borg Aug 2015 #68
well, considering he palls around with, and supports and excuses, pedophiles, one does wonder. niyad Aug 2015 #126
He's an absolute psychopath. Initech Aug 2015 #69
I so wish we could give... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #70
A flurry of logical fallacies NastyRiffraff Aug 2015 #71
I hope Hillary talks about this. I really, really want this out there in the political CTyankee Aug 2015 #72
Bone Chilling Creepy bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #74
Huckabee really needs to shut the fuck up about anything relating to human sexuality. 47of74 Aug 2015 #75
this is a significant risk to the girl, too restorefreedom Aug 2015 #76
OMG,he actually refferred to the young prenant girl as a "birth mother" me b zola Aug 2015 #77
Excellent point and excellent post. I also took note of his use of the word "birth mother." StevieM Aug 2015 #131
Did it ever occur to tis AH that such a young girl could die bearing a child while so napi21 Aug 2015 #78
Women are never human beings to religious patriarchs Warpy Aug 2015 #79
the pro fetus group have a particular tunnel vision. fetal vision. its the ONLY thing they see. pansypoo53219 Aug 2015 #80
God, Turbineguy Aug 2015 #85
Sick sick sick. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #86
I'm sure he would want this for his 10 year old granddaughter SHRED Aug 2015 #87
Huck's perspective Jean Genie Aug 2015 #88
That 10 y.o. girl's life was taken from her, but since she's only a uterus that does not matter..... Hekate Aug 2015 #89
and this fool has a daughter. SummerSnow Aug 2015 #90
To all of you who think he'd have his own daughter or granddaughter have an abortion... No Hekate Aug 2015 #91
And let's be clear, often when a woman or girl is raped, right-wingers DO believe that she is StevieM Aug 2015 #109
He knows a guy who wasn't aborted. rickford66 Aug 2015 #93
Now I want to vomit--on Fuckabee! lastlib Aug 2015 #94
Is Huckabee willing to support the 10 yr old TBF Aug 2015 #95
God help me not to hate this monster with every fiber of my being... HeartlandDem Aug 2015 #96
I don't believe him Caretha Aug 2015 #97
He's too stupid to know how evil he is. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #100
This shuld be a commercial to keep him out of office. trillion Aug 2015 #102
Why is this surprising? ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #103
pregnancy and delivery is one of the highest causes of death in Ilsa Aug 2015 #104
That just turns my stomach davidpdx Aug 2015 #107
Huckabeen is disgusting Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #108
Well, it's a more morally consistent view than having a rape exception Recursion Aug 2015 #110
The title alone made me hurl. romanic Aug 2015 #111
Hey, Fuckabee -- area51 Aug 2015 #112
Why can't people like Huckabee awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #114
After all MissMillie Aug 2015 #115
This guy is crazy. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #116
"but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?" Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #117
This kind of batshit crazy has got to be stopped! hamsterjill Aug 2015 #118
Did anyone ask the 10 year old girl what she wants? Marthe48 Aug 2015 #120
Huck wants to use the National Guard to stop abortions. It's the only 'sin' he sees in the world. sinkingfeeling Aug 2015 #121
DU, when you saw this headline, did something inside of you think, "No, he didn't say this." Yavin4 Aug 2015 #123
what a sick, twisted, perverted bastard he is. makes me wonder what skeletons are in his niyad Aug 2015 #125
it might actually be worth joining social media, just so that I can tell him exactly what I niyad Aug 2015 #127
Huckabee continues to remove any doubt that he is a vile human being. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #130
It seems that little mickey loves pedophiles and rapists Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #132
Mike Huckabee is no better than the rapist. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #133
I can think of a worse horror than a rape victim being allowed an abortion jmowreader Aug 2015 #134
The ten year old girl IS HERSELF AN INNOCENT CHILD! Still In Wisconsin Aug 2015 #135
Huck should just come out and admit this is his secret fetish Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #136
"birth mother... will go through extraordinary guilt years later" wordpix Aug 2015 #137
Two words: hifiguy Aug 2015 #138
Huckabee hates the rape victims GOLGO 13 Aug 2015 #139
Why is the slimebag still around LeftOfWest Aug 2015 #144
Abortion is a medical procedure that keeps women safe and healthy. Period. LeftOfWest Aug 2015 #145

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
26. he is a lowlife fucker and I wish him to live forever so people can throw rocks.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:19 PM
Aug 2015

last time I looked, she was the innocent child and the other was a zygote.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
122. That policy promotes rape...why can't he see that?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:41 AM
Aug 2015

Or does he and justifies it? He is the worst of our kind.

lark

(23,099 posts)
2. How very low can this rw rapist promoting jerk go?
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:43 AM
Aug 2015

You know damn well if his daughter had been raped at 10 she wouldn't be forced to carry the baby. Poor child has had her humiliation and injury made into a rw cause. BS on he thinks this is horrible for the girl, he doesn't give one fucking shit about her or any other rape vicitim.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
81. Absolutely sick.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:23 PM
Aug 2015

I am so outraged! How can he not see that a poor child herself is the victim? Does he want to condemn her to a life of hell, or no life at all? I can't even say what I would like to do to him.

101. He wouldn't provide any prenatal or infant care, of course
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 08:32 PM
Aug 2015

The first thing any Republican president is going to do (they say) is overturn Obamacare.

Jeb! says he might reinstate torture (or rather, won't rule it out), which somehow seems remotely related to forcing a 10 year old to bear her rapist's offspring.

In some states the rapist might be able to claim parental rights (guys who are one night stands can) -- visitation, etc.

At what point did the Republicant Party go crazy?

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. What a load of self-serving bull - and Huckleberry pal,
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

the so-called "real issue" here is you don't give a flying fart about that 10-year-old girl, because you're so busy thinking of sanctimonious pie-in-the-sky "possibilities."

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
40. Please don't insult pigs...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

...from what I know, they are more protective of the young than is Hemorrhoid Huckleberry.

trusty elf

(7,393 posts)
13. Exactly! That poor girl!
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:52 AM
Aug 2015

If it were his own daughter, would this piece of shit force her to endure giving birth to her rapist's baby?

Utterly despicable

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
82. The reason that this became dogma of the church
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:24 PM
Aug 2015

is that the child being carried might be male and therefore more valuable than the mother carrying it. There fore even in a case of rape, abortion was denied.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
129. 100% correct
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 12:52 PM
Aug 2015

"The child might be male and therefore more valuable than the woman/girl carrying it."
And they hate Muslims? Their "religions" are based on the exact same sickness.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
141. He Even Says "Innocent Child"
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:22 AM
Aug 2015

Of course, completely ignoring that the girl he's saying should have the baby is an INNOCENT CHILD!

This is evil and stupid at the same time.

Hugin

(33,144 posts)
11. So, who is this water bringing child of rape, Huckster.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:51 AM
Aug 2015

Or are you bearing false witness, you lying POS?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
12. An utterly spurious argument
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:51 AM
Aug 2015

So Huckabee would deny abortions to the mothers of Osama bin Laden, Jeffrey Dahmer, Adam Lanza, ayatolah Khomeni, Pol Pot and other equally infamous people?

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
14. This guy is sick. Send him to a doctor quickly.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:56 AM
Aug 2015

How can anyone believe that a 10 year old should suffer this trauma. Be gone, Huckabee, you are so way off base it is impossible to comprehend your logic.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
16. Huckleberry hates young girls for their freedom
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:58 AM
Aug 2015

This guy really should join ISIS or the Taliban. He seems to agree with their radical fundamentalism.

What is he polling now, less than 1 present?

erronis

(15,257 posts)
38. The ways of these groups (ISIS, Taliban, AQ) are insidious. Al Huquabi is a sleeper cell.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:02 PM
Aug 2015

As are many of the other religious zealots. It is all for the glory of their incarnation of an all-powerful male figure to dominate women and others.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that most of the evangelicals are funded by the Kingdoms in the Middle East. How better to foment the "End Days" when the followers of (he shall remain unnamed) finally conquer the earth.

OK, that was fun. But sometimes I wonder...

asjr

(10,479 posts)
23. Huckabee is just one among many Republicans
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Aug 2015

who feel the same way. This has been scaring me to death! It is not only their stock-in-trade but it feels like a giant has taken over their souls. I no longer care which Democrat wins--just want to make sure it is a Democrat.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
24. Considering how many known pedophiles Huck counts as friends and defends
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:06 PM
Aug 2015

this is not surprising of a stand for him to take.

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
29. Huckabee couldn't give a crap either way.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:20 PM
Aug 2015

He's clueless to the abusive situations endured by others so its all empty, propaganda fodder which fans his voting base. His base is also clueless to real suffering.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
36. He thinks about the "possibilities"?????
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:47 PM
Aug 2015

Does that include the possibility of the 10-year-old dying?????

What a POS.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
65. IMO, he is talking about "the possiblilities" of having an available infant ready for adoption
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

Among rw christian kind of people, adoption is a cult. They get brownie points with god for adopting. And no, they don't give a tinkers damn about the mother of the child, regardless if that mother is a child herself or not/.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
113. Oh, I know.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:06 AM
Aug 2015

They don't care at all about the health of the mother. And furthermore, I question their "concern" about the child once it's born.

If you're talking "possibilities" -- to me that means ALL the possibilities -- especially when it involves a preteen.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
128. The girl had the baby and her parents adopted the baby.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 12:19 PM
Aug 2015

He is sick but the girl did have the baby.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
140. She had a C-section for fear vaginal delivery
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:11 AM
Aug 2015

might cause her great harm (more harm than already).
Wonder if he would consider pitching in for money to raise that baby and therapy for this young girl

He is a holier than thou type of "Christian" who ignores many of the qualities required to actually be considered qualified.

I used to think he was not totally awful, I am willing to admit I was very very wrong.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
142. I was speaking in general terms.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:55 AM
Aug 2015

The life of the mother and the life of the child after the delivery rooms are mere afterthoughts to people like Huck.

And I wonder what the potential consequences are of doing a C-section on a 10-year-old? But I guess it is safer than attempting a vaginal delivery.

She is 10, for Chrissakes.

(Sorry to take so long to display but time and computer issues interfered this week.)

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
146. You are right.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:47 AM
Aug 2015

I thought some may have thought the girl died. I do know that happens. We are on the same page and support the same thing.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
37. Why am I so skeptical
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:57 PM
Aug 2015

about stories like the one about a man whose mother was denied an abortion and now he's Mother Teresa?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
41. Huckabee would demand access to the express lane if this girl were his granddaughter.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:14 PM
Aug 2015

He's so full of shit.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
43. She gave birth to an 6.6 or 8 pound baby by Caesarean section
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:15 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:10 PM - Edit history (2)

What a complete bastard Huckabee is.

A 10 or 11 year old girl on average weighs 70 to 80 pounds.

Physically this is atrocious. Emotionally it's an insane thing to do to a young CHILD.

On edit: correction on birthweight, not that it matters.
On edit... Birthweight was reported as 8 lbs in one paper and as 6.6 in another

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
92. Not only was it real but SHE ISN'T THE YOUNGEST RAPE VICTIM TO GIVE BIRTH at that facility
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:14 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.nigerianscoop.com/11-year-old-girl-who-was-raped-by-her-step-father-gives-birth/
3.5 kg 8 lbs

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/05/ten-year-olds-pregnancy-sparks-paraguay-abortion-debate/
Says in the Guardian that she was only 75lbs. 4' 6" and that SHE ISN'T THE YOUNGEST RAPE VICTIM TO GIVE BIRTH under care of this doctor.We’ve had experience with this before. Last year a 10-year-old girl who conceived as a nine-year-old gave birth. Her step-grandfather raped her. She did well,” said Castellanos.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
50. What a disgusting person.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:51 PM
Aug 2015

Apparently the 10 year old's life is expendable as long as the embryo can reach maturity. Little girls aren't ready for childbirth and it can kill them.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
51. I hate apocryphal anecdotes that purport to "prove" something. And what is "living capacity for
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:58 PM
Aug 2015

water"?

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
53. Huck reminds me once again why I
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Aug 2015

would not seek shelter in a Roman Catholic or Evangelical Church during an F-5 Tornado.

98. First implant a watermelon in his gut and make him carry it for 4 or 5 months
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 08:21 PM
Aug 2015

Make sure the surgeon who performs the operation is a Democrat who voted for Obama.

Insult to injury...

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
55. This s/b DEBATE question
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:06 PM
Aug 2015

number one next time, both for Republicans in one month and Democrats in two months. How would any other R have answered it?

Chuck Todd asked Trump about abortion on MTP this morning, but let him off easy by not following up about the outrage in Paraguay.

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
57. Wow. absolute proof Phuckabee has no empathetic grey matter left.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:10 PM
Aug 2015

Aside from his black little heart, 2 sizes too small.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
59. K&R...Thanks for posting, DonViejo
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:13 PM
Aug 2015

Huckabee is a poor excuse for a human being, which is probably why the Tea Party loves him.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
61. Yet another reason this sicko should not be Prez.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

Just utterly sick and wrong on every level, Suckabee.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
62. It's one thing to say something this despicable
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:20 PM
Aug 2015

but is anyone willing to bet that his position wouldn't change if the rape victim were his child?

And by his same logic, he ought to oppose the death penalty : "when I think about one horror, I also think about the possibilities."

Evil fucking hypocrites... I don't wish violence on anyone, but such a POS might make me rethink my values.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
63. Huckabee, Walker and Rubio all want to force children to give birth.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

As well as grown women, of course.

When is someone going to start asking them what kind of gurneys they are going to use to strap women down and force them to bear children?

When is someone going to ask them how many women should die, for their insane sense of entitlement to grab and poke and squeeze other people's bodies and force them to do their bidding?

Paul Ryan takes the same position, and he and these other murderous monstrosities are permitted to walk about and pretend to be reasonable human beings, while we fight over whether mild banking reform or a minimum wage are "radicalism."

Jesus.

truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
66. The key word here is "force".
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:38 PM
Aug 2015

Old religious zealots reducing female humans to life support systems for rapists' zygotes. Completely dehumanizing and completely heartless. These men are nothing more than vicious control freaks.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
68. This man is hiding something...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

Perhaps it will come out in a few years, like with Cosby. Same pattern.

3catwoman3

(23,987 posts)
70. I so wish we could give...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

...Fuckabee a transplant of a female reproductive tract and experience what this poor little girl went thru. Schmuck.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
71. A flurry of logical fallacies
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:17 PM
Aug 2015

Let's see. A Red Herring it's irrelevant that someone who was not aborted turned out to be good, This happens..um a lot.

Retrospective determinism: The argument that because some event has occurred, its occurrence must have been inevitable beforehand. (" That would never have happened&quot

Hasty Generalization: Using a lone example to prove a broader point.

Appeal to emotion

And of course: Willful Stupidity (I made that up as a logical fallacy but I think it applies to the special case of Mike Huckabee.)

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
72. I hope Hillary talks about this. I really, really want this out there in the political
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

sphere so it'll get talked about.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
74. Bone Chilling Creepy
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:23 PM
Aug 2015

He is just so sick, why does he have to keep pushing his warped
viewpoints on everyone?

He really must get off on it.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
75. Huckabee really needs to shut the fuck up about anything relating to human sexuality.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

Especially given his pardons of guys like DuMond and his defense of guys like Josh Duggar.

He really needs to drink a big ol glass of shut the fuck up. Along with crawl back under the rock from where he slithered out from under.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
77. OMG,he actually refferred to the young prenant girl as a "birth mother"
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

This young girl, who should have an abortion because neither her body nor mind are ready for pregnancy and child birth, let be able to fend off the opportunist salivating to remove her child from her to sell to adoption. No girl or woman is a "birth mother" while she is pregnant.

Huckabee is a sick fuck on so many different levels. And btw, huckabee, you don't have the say over a woman's body.

This article and its contents are triggerpalooza. So many issues just barfed out as one big mess.

I would remind readers that women have given birth and lovingly raised children that were conceived by rape for thousands of years. I would suggest that some of our members here fit that description, either on the mother or "child" side of the equation. This statement of fact is not a slight to the many women who choose to terminate a pregnancy that occurs because of rape. I fully support a woman's right to continue a pregnancy or end it, for ANY reason~no judgement.

Huckabee and his positions on women are disgusting.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
131. Excellent point and excellent post. I also took note of his use of the word "birth mother."
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

I just didn't have the strength last night to work up the energy to explain why it was wrong and why Huckabee would say something like that.

OK, here goes:

People like Mike Huckabee are not just anti-abortion--they are pro-adoption. As matter of moral principle, they want EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock to be given up for adoption. It goes without saying to him that the baby should be adopted out. And the expectant mother, who has no right to her own child, is really just a surrogate. She is already the birth mother. This, of course, is the mentality that leads to "Dear birth mother" letters.

Rape victims are definitely at risk of being exploited by the adoption industry. And if they are children (under 18) the adults in their life often don't know how to support them.

Here is a good wikipedia article on a situation like that, along with an article on the rape victim. It really seems like the PAPs and/or Bethany Christian Services (always the lowest of the low) took great care to feed her the words she was expected to say in the adoption paperwork, and to the judge. The rhetoric is just way too familiar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Baptist_Church_sex_scandal

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/man-accused-in-rape-admitted-paternity

napi21

(45,806 posts)
78. Did it ever occur to tis AH that such a young girl could die bearing a child while so
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:53 PM
Aug 2015

immature? Probably not, but I guess it wouldn't matter.

Is he also against ay medical treatment that would have prevented her from becoming pregnant after the rape was reported? There wouldn't be any need for an abortion because the egg would never implant.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
79. Women are never human beings to religious patriarchs
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:59 PM
Aug 2015

We're just walking flowerpots with annoying voices and we'd better get dinner on the table on time. Clean clothes just breed in the closet.

He completely loses sight of a child whose body will have to be ripped apart to get a baby she is too young to bear out of her.

He is a sick man. He needs a nice hospital with strong drugs and people in white coats to talk to.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
86. Sick sick sick.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Aug 2015

An incest fetus is more important to him than this girl. In a decent world, this would disqualify him from running for office.

Jean Genie

(273 posts)
88. Huck's perspective
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:49 PM
Aug 2015

Why is it so often those who won't get pregnant, can't get pregnant (like Huckabee and the rest of the boys in the "Old Repugs Club&quot , or are beyond the age where one can get pregnant (in the case of Carly and other anti-woman women) who believe they have the right to set the standards for what is acceptable in the wonderful world of rape? Forcing a child to bear a child because it would be more traumatic somewhere down the road for her to have aborted the rapist's "deposit" (or gift from god if you think like The Huck)? Give me a fucking break! Forcing a child - or a grown-up woman for that matter - to carry within her the abomination that is the rapist's fetal "gift," is sick, perverted, twisted, and totally, utterly cruel. It is woman-hating in its highest form. It is not compassion for the unborn fetus, nor is it charity, love, or anything else that's caring and humane for the victim. It is, essentially, an every-sperm-is-sacred philosophy that fails to take into consideration anyone's feelings other than those of the rapist, and the (predominantly) white men who so want to save and protect the unborn. Why?

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
89. That 10 y.o. girl's life was taken from her, but since she's only a uterus that does not matter.....
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

A girl of any age, much less a woman, is just a uterus walking around waiting to be inseminated by any passing animal.

Preacher Huckabee, your god is a horrible god. Preacher Huckabee, kindly go do something anatomically impossible to yourself and leave the female half of the human race alone.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
91. To all of you who think he'd have his own daughter or granddaughter have an abortion... No
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 05:52 PM
Aug 2015

My take on The Preacher and all his ilk is that they are so ideologically rigid and blind that they would force the female to go through with it regardless of her own feelings on the matter. He'd just pray on it and pat himself on the back for his ability to rise above her sins.

In a different time he would definitely have made a different decision in order to hush it up and avoid the shame to the family. Again, regardless of the female's feelings on the matter.

It's all about him and his feelings, and of course his horrible mysogynistic god.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
109. And let's be clear, often when a woman or girl is raped, right-wingers DO believe that she is
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:28 AM
Aug 2015

the one who has sinned and needs to repent.

Here is a link to a story where this happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Baptist_Church_sex_scandal

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
93. He knows a guy who wasn't aborted.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015

Wow. I know someone who doesn't have health care. Will Huck support Obama Care now? Also someone without a job. Will he support extending unemployment? We can all play this game. Anecdotal stories are the norm for his and the GOPs policies. Welfare queen! Illegal gun toting rapist! Lobster eating food stamp recipient! No end to it.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
94. Now I want to vomit--on Fuckabee!
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

[font size=10]FUCK YOU, HUCKABEE!![/font size] you are disgusting!

TBF

(32,060 posts)
95. Is Huckabee willing to support the 10 yr old
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:34 PM
Aug 2015

and infant as they grow? Words are cheap, Huckabee, let's see how compassionate you really are.

HeartlandDem

(80 posts)
96. God help me not to hate this monster with every fiber of my being...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

how anyone could even consider this asshat for the presidency is beyond me.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
103. Why is this surprising?
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:03 PM
Aug 2015

For those who believe that a full human life with its own rights begins at contraception, this is the obvious and only conclusion. Unless the mother is also at risk of dying, no abortion could ever be justified. Huckabee is not alone on thinking this way either.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
104. pregnancy and delivery is one of the highest causes of death in
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:49 PM
Aug 2015

Preteen girls in Paraguay. I heard that on BBC World News last Friday when they discussed this case. The girl was lucky to survive it. I hope the rapist is in jail or dead.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
110. Well, it's a more morally consistent view than having a rape exception
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:31 AM
Aug 2015

I'll give it that. While I find Huckabee's position horrible, it's somehow less horrible than people who say "I think abortion should be illegal except in cases of rape". Huckabee's position actually does seem to be about the life of the fetus, whereas when you add the rape exception you make it about the morality of the woman.

area51

(11,909 posts)
112. Hey, Fuckabee --
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:11 AM
Aug 2015

If you really gave a shit about human life in the US, you'd be fighting for single-payer.

Truly, republicans are pro-rape.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
117. "but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?"
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:06 AM
Aug 2015

Of course not!! But we are talking about a fetus, not a baby, MORON!

Lying bastard motherfucker!

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
120. Did anyone ask the 10 year old girl what she wants?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

Oh, you say she is too young to make an informed decision?

I hope the monsters who are tormenting this child all burn in hell: the rapist step-father, Mike Huckabee and anyone else who are killing this little gilr's childhood.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
121. Huck wants to use the National Guard to stop abortions. It's the only 'sin' he sees in the world.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

Could care less how many innocent lives are taken by our military and drones.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
123. DU, when you saw this headline, did something inside of you think, "No, he didn't say this."
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

"No one can think like this. He had to be mis-interpreted."

And then you read his direct quotes, and you just get depressed that there are people like this among us who think like this, and some of them are high profile leaders.

It's just fucking depressing on some many damn levels.

niyad

(113,306 posts)
125. what a sick, twisted, perverted bastard he is. makes me wonder what skeletons are in his
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 12:10 PM
Aug 2015

closet, pallin' around with pedophiles, etc.

niyad

(113,306 posts)
127. it might actually be worth joining social media, just so that I can tell him exactly what I
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 12:15 PM
Aug 2015

think of this sick, twisted, perverted waste of resources.

mikey boy, may you experience every single moment of the fear and terror and pain this poor child has endured.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
134. I can think of a worse horror than a rape victim being allowed an abortion
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

And that's a Baptist minister being allowed to sit behind the desk in the Oval Office. Does the word "ISIS" mean anything to you?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
137. "birth mother... will go through extraordinary guilt years later"
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:14 PM
Aug 2015

Hey, huckster, this woman got an abortion 30 yrs. ago and has no guilt whatsoever. I would have felt more guilty had I brought up a child I did not want. And BTW, I was not a "birth mother" of this 6 wk. old fetus, which likewise was not a "child" but a fetus that could not eat, breathe or function on its own.

 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
144. Why is the slimebag still around
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:29 AM
Aug 2015

his kid tortured/hung a dog to death at a camp where they were "counselors"?

Go the fuck away with your deviant misogynist Duggar pals.

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