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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:41 PM Aug 2015

Red Scare: Nebraska school district asks staff to sign McCarthy-era loyalty pledge

Source: RawStory

More than 20 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, a school district in Nebraska is asking teachers to sign an oath designed to root out communist sympathizers.

Hastings Public Schools administrators have asked all staff to attest to their “love and devotion to” the United States government by signing the McCarthy-era loyalty pledge. The school administration says it must ask staff to sign the document because of a 1951 state law that is still on the books.

“We’re not trying to violate anyone’s constitutional rights,” Hastings Schools Superintendent Craig Kautz told the Associated Press. “As a public school, we can’t selectively decide what laws we abide by and which ones we don’t. I just hope we don’t get dragged into something that’s above our level.”

During the last school year, individuals contacted Kautz about the loyalty pledge and asked why the district did not have its staff sign it. Kautz contacted the district’s attorneys, who told him that Nebraska still had two loyalty pledge statutes on the books — and only one of them was unconstitutional.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/red-scare-nebraska-school-district-asks-staff-to-sign-mccarthy-era-loyalty-pledge/

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Red Scare: Nebraska school district asks staff to sign McCarthy-era loyalty pledge (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
What hypocritical bullcrap.. SummerSnow Aug 2015 #1
Not this shit again! KansDem Aug 2015 #2
If I was forced to sign somebody's Loyalty Pledge, I wouldn't be loyal to them BlueJazz Aug 2015 #3
In the 1980s I was asked if I was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party MNBrewer Aug 2015 #4
This is necessary! drm604 Aug 2015 #5
Anyone not got enough spine to stand up to this? Go ahead, get on your knees and sign it, then crawl jtuck004 Aug 2015 #6
You're about to be "dragged into something above your level" in 3...2...1... Daemonaquila Aug 2015 #7
If it's state law ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #8
It would be really interesting to see if someone could turn it avebury Aug 2015 #9
In the future maybe there will be an anti-capitalist pledge Gregorian Aug 2015 #10
It makes me sad that we forget the lessons of history over and over and over phantom power Aug 2015 #11
See, this is what happens when you step into The Master's TARDIS... n/t TygrBright Aug 2015 #12
Arizona's been doing it forever amazona10 Aug 2015 #13
The hell yours not trying to violate anyone's constitutional rights, Craig Krautz! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #14
FWIW. I had to sign one in California in 2001 Xithras Aug 2015 #15
this is the state that has a woman who is suing all homosexuals, correct? rurallib Aug 2015 #16
#3 &#4 could be used to control interpretations of our purposes and history lindysalsagal Aug 2015 #17
Sounds to me like Right Wing Paranoia .. what are these people afraid of, the government or YOHABLO Aug 2015 #18
Curious MFrohike Aug 2015 #19

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. What hypocritical bullcrap..
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

“We’re not trying to violate anyone’s constitutional rights,”


But then want people to sign this document and if they don't you will harass them then fire them. Blacklist the staff is what he will do





KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. Not this shit again!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015


The HUAC Hearings, or "Are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party?"

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
4. In the 1980s I was asked if I was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:53 PM
Aug 2015

when I took a college summer job at a veterinary diagnostic lab in Georgia. It seemed to be part of the paperwork for intake of new employees.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Anyone not got enough spine to stand up to this? Go ahead, get on your knees and sign it, then crawl
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:56 PM
Aug 2015

back to that classroom.

With that one act you have taught the kids all they need to know about schooling and the life they will live. Congratulations.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
7. You're about to be "dragged into something above your level" in 3...2...1...
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

You'll be sued in about 5 minutes. Hope it was worth it.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. It would be really interesting to see if someone could turn it
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:20 PM
Aug 2015

around on them to force the school district to uphold the US Constitution because a lot of the uber right wing BS is opposed to the Constitution.

By the way, all employees of the State of Oklahoma have to sign a Loyalty Oath upon being hired.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
10. In the future maybe there will be an anti-capitalist pledge
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:37 PM
Aug 2015

I know one thing, it would be a sign of health.

There is nothing wrong with community. Capitalism is anti-community. It's the reason why we're struggling with economic inequality, and the reason one of our candidates is doing surprisingly well.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
11. It makes me sad that we forget the lessons of history over and over and over
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:49 PM
Aug 2015


There should be some list of Danger Signs For A Society. If you find yourself, or other people doing things on this list, it is an immediate sign that Something Is Going Wrong.

Loyalty Pledges -- stop, put the loyalty pledge on the ground, and back slowly away.

Other things on the list. Forbidden Books, Blaming Immigrants For <Anything>, any speech starting with "I'm Not A Scientist, But..."

I'm sure there are some other good ones. But it doesn't really matter. Because we forget them. Over and over.


amazona10

(8 posts)
13. Arizona's been doing it forever
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:05 PM
Aug 2015

This is nothing new in Arizona where anyone who works for the state must sign a loyalty oath. Its been here for forever and will go on for forever.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
15. FWIW. I had to sign one in California in 2001
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:31 PM
Aug 2015

When I took my first adjunct teaching position at a California community college, I had to sign a certification that I wasn't a member of the Communist Party and a pledge not to join them. When I took another adjunct position at a CSU a couple of years later, I had to sign it again.

In California.

In this century.

California didn't pass a law repealing the requirement that educators at state educational institutions sign the pledge until 2008. That's only seven years ago for the mathematically impaired. Until then, most public colleges and universities required prospective employees to sign them (though a handful willfully and publicly violated the law for ethical reasons).

Here's an article discussing its eventual repeal: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/may/16/usa1

lindysalsagal

(20,733 posts)
17. #3 &#4 could be used to control interpretations of our purposes and history
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:33 PM
Aug 2015

If anyone were removed for violating it, they'd have a duzy of a lawsuit against the district. It will be tested, if for no other reason than the possible damage money.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
18. Sounds to me like Right Wing Paranoia .. what are these people afraid of, the government or
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:57 PM
Aug 2015

communism? Here we go, McCarthyism all over again. I'm loyal to my principles, and the Republican Party's Conservatives do not represent them. I think if I were a public school teacher in Nebraska, I'd find other employment.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
19. Curious
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:44 AM
Aug 2015

I wonder if they've been adhering to this law since 1951 or if this is a recent development. If it's the latter, it'll probably be struck down for lack of enforcement.

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