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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:55 PM Aug 2015

Michigan Man Allegedly Robbed Bank to Pay for Daughter’s Chemo

Source: ABC News

Michigan Man Allegedly Robbed Bank to Pay for Daughter’s Chemo

Breanna Edwards
6 hrs ago

A Michigan man who robbed a local credit union reportedly did so in a desperate attempt to help pay for his daughter’s chemotherapy, according to authorities, ABC News reports.

Brian Randolph, 23, is accused of entering the Vibe Credit Union in South Lyon earlier this month, and passing a note demanding money. The note said that he had a gun hidden in his clothes, but Randolph reportedly never showed a firearm and, according to the authorities, did not actually have a gun with him.

The young father has been charged with armed robbery. His bond was set at $500,000.

According to ABC News, Randolph’s troubles began when his insurance company reportedly stopped paying for his daughter’s chemotherapy treatment. Brialynn, who is one, has retinoblastoma, a cancer that forms in the eye, and needs treatment, that costs thousands of dollars, every four weeks, the site notes.


Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-man-allegedly-robbed-bank-to-pay-for-daughter%e2%80%99s-chemo/ar-BBm9UD5?ocid=u142dhp

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Michigan Man Allegedly Robbed Bank to Pay for Daughter’s Chemo (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2015 OP
Yes, your honor, I did deliberate. Didn't find that confession credible. Have a nice day. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #1
That is terrible that this man had to resort to crime for medical bills. femmocrat Aug 2015 #2
Should have become a meth cook instead like Walter. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2015 #4
Yes, I thought of "Breaking Bad" too. femmocrat Aug 2015 #6
. Lucky Luciano Aug 2015 #7
Republicans don't give a shit about this little girl. Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #3
Yep! Sadly. cer7711 Aug 2015 #8
Thanks. Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #21
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #36
That is truly awful MNBrewer Aug 2015 #5
Journalism is dead. Indydem Aug 2015 #9
"The ACA should protect them." rusty quoin Aug 2015 #10
yes Doctor_J Aug 2015 #16
What you're missing Jim Lane Aug 2015 #23
Insurance is not Health Care. And they have new and improved ways to screw you. harun Aug 2015 #30
It appears there may have been a paperwork problem. drm604 Aug 2015 #14
See post #9 dflprincess Aug 2015 #20
Thank Gawd he was insured, insurance is the important thing, it is important Dragonfli Aug 2015 #11
+1. nt OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #12
Thanks to the profit protection and middleman multiplication act, we're all Doctor_J Aug 2015 #18
If true, demand a jury trial. This is what jury nullification is for. PSPS Aug 2015 #13
American exceptionalism Doctor_J Aug 2015 #15
Lol... I just saw your lead in as mine posted world wide wally Aug 2015 #19
American exceptionalism world wide wally Aug 2015 #17
Wow, this says it all flamingdem Aug 2015 #22
USA! USA! USA! progressoid Aug 2015 #24
Possibly more to this.. 840high Aug 2015 #25
Hmmmmmmm........... (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author KinMd Aug 2015 #26
That reminds me of this........ davidpdx Aug 2015 #27
Thanks for posting the trailer. Haven't seen it. It looks very worthwhile. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #29
sad Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #31
It really has come to this hasn't it? romanic Aug 2015 #32
Randolph family.... Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #33
Not to condone this, but you won't see stories like this in the UK and Canada, Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #34

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. That is terrible that this man had to resort to crime for medical bills.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:59 PM
Aug 2015

WTF is wrong with this country! Isn't there help for children like his daughter?

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
3. Republicans don't give a shit about this little girl.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:15 PM
Aug 2015

They don't give a shit about anyone, not even their constituents. They only care about their rich donors. They would rather give any money that supports medical patients to their rich donors via tax cuts.

Republicans and insurance companies are the most vile, evil, racist, and greedy psychopaths to inhabit this earth.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
9. Journalism is dead.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

I had to make three jumps to get to the original story that didn't have one iota of facts to support or refute the claims made by a criminal.

Just an accusation.

This may turn out to be true. Not sure how unless they quit making payments on their insurance. The ACA should protect them.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
10. "The ACA should protect them."
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:58 PM
Aug 2015

Those were my thoughts. The insurance companies can no longer screw people like they use to. Am I missing something?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
23. What you're missing
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

You write, "The insurance companies can no longer screw people like they use to."

Well, yes and no. Some of the ways that they used to screw people are now prohibited. Other methods, however, are alive and well. I learned this through personal experience.

In late 2014, I went on the exchanges to compare policies for 2015, and found one from Blue Cross Blue Shield that looked better than what was offered by my previous carrier. So I switched.

To my surprise, however, BCBS refused to cover a drug that was first prescribed for me more than ten years ago, which my previous carrier had paid for without a murmur. My doctor responded by explaining why I need the drug. BCBS was unmoved. It has demanded information that can't be produced unless I go off the drug for several months, so that I descend again into the bad condition I was in before I started on it. Only by doing that could I satisfy an insurance company bean counter's unreasonable demands. The judgment of the doctor who's been treating me since 2002 isn't good enough.

I haven't read any of the articles about the bank robber case. He might be a scammer. It's also quite possible, though, that in his daughter's case, as in mine, an insurance company has unreasonably refused to cover a treatment that the insured's doctor has said is medically necessary.

One solution would be to require companies to cover whatever the doctor orders. That could, however, lead to abuse. As long as we have a system that's based on providing health care but with big for-profit companies as gatekeepers, the rules will balance patient needs against the profit motive.

Within the context of a primary role for the for-profit corporations, I don't know of any good solution that would prevent them from screwing people. The only solution is single payer.

harun

(11,348 posts)
30. Insurance is not Health Care. And they have new and improved ways to screw you.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:39 PM
Aug 2015

The one that just got me was the medically necessary provision. Denying payment.

While at times it makes sense they will exploit this more and more. I mean technically one could argue anesthesia isn't medically necessary either, it just helps "comfort" the patient.

We need Dem candidates rallying around a public option. Not happening though.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
14. It appears there may have been a paperwork problem.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:25 PM
Aug 2015

If you look at the video at the abc link: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/accused-bank-robber-stole-daughters-chemotherapy-treatment/story?id=33330902

around 00:18 - 00:20 it briefly shows the denial letter from the insurance company. You can stop the video and read parts of the letter (some of it is off-screen) it appears that they failed to provide paperwork that the insurance company required. This may have been the parents fault or it may have been an insurance company screw-up.

At this link: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-man-allegedly-robbed-bank-to-pay-for-daughter%E2%80%99s-chemo/ar-BBm9UD5?ocid=u142dhp

the last paragraph says:

"I guess it was desperation. Time was ticking right before her actual appointment came up," Brialynn’s mother, Asia Dupree told WXYZ-TV. “This was after the insurance was cancelled…[We] kept calling. No answer. Voicemails. No answer. No callbacks.”


This sounds very familiar to me. I nearly ran out of a critical medicine once because the insurance company didn't know their ass from a hole in the wall. Every time I called to see where the claim stood I got a new person and it was like the whole process was started over again. I kept getting different answers and different instructions every time I called. If my employer didn't provide the services of a company that provides trained medical advocates who understand insurance and are able to bypass the insurance companies' low-level customer support people I probably would have either ran out of medicine or had to put a large amount on a credit card.

The parents may have been at fault here, but it's just as possible that this was the fault of the insurance company. The statement that "We kept calling. No answer. Voicemails. No answer. No callbacks." sounds like they were trying to straighten it out. It sounds just like what I went through.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
20. See post #9
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:46 PM
Aug 2015

But even without the screw-ups like that many people can't afford the large out of pockets they have to go with in order to afford the premiums.

Requiring that you buy insurance does not guarantee that you will have access to care. Sure, preventive and screening tests are covered - but why bother with the screening if you can't pay for the follow up?


Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
11. Thank Gawd he was insured, insurance is the important thing, it is important
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:10 PM
Aug 2015

that we are all INSURED. All that matters is insurance, the rest is unimportant.
After all, for profit Corporate middle men always take care of us, our health is in the best possible hands.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
18. Thanks to the profit protection and middleman multiplication act, we're all
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:34 PM
Aug 2015

valued customers, like Brian. Maybe he should have gotten a bronze plan instead of a lead plan.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
15. American exceptionalism
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:30 PM
Aug 2015

Big Insurance is your friend. Thanks to heritage care, Mr Randolph can probably get a lawyer to read the fine print on his policy and, in five years or so, get them to pay. Of course he'll be in prison and brialynn will be dead, but whatever. He should have shopped around for a better plan. Unless he's on an employer plan, in which case option a is his best bet.

Guess what folks. Only one candidate for president wants to take insurance companies out of the government. You should consider voting for him

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
22. Wow, this says it all
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

What an embarrassment, Europeans must laugh at us when these things happen. And Canadians.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
25. Possibly more to this..
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:07 AM
Aug 2015

But when the man was caught two days later, authorities say they found some items that may contradict that claim — the car he was driving had a Gucci bag, several high-end clothing items and a pair of shoes, most of which were newly purchased, said Lt. Chris Sovik of the South Lyon Police Department.

from Lansing Journal

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romanic

(2,841 posts)
32. It really has come to this hasn't it?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:47 AM
Aug 2015

So sad, make me ashamed to even be American with this crap insurance industry he have to serve its masters instead of the people under said insurance.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
33. Randolph family....
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 02:20 PM
Aug 2015


I am so sorry the uber-rich of this country are so fucked up and greedy that they won't pay for the cancers that they cause.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. Not to condone this, but you won't see stories like this in the UK and Canada,
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 02:56 PM
Aug 2015

where the whole concept of "paying for chemo" is an alien one, as it should be.

I suspect that this case will end up with a fairly generous plea-bargain, which he will probably accept as opposed to relying on jury nullification.

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