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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:34 PM Aug 2015

Texas Sheriff’s Office Identifies Defendant In Deputy’s ‘Execution-Style Killing’

Source: Washington Post

By Elahe Izadi August 29 at 5:40 PM

A man arrested Saturday in the shooting death of a sheriff’s deputy at a Houston gas station Friday has been charged with capital murder, Harris County Sheriff Ron Hickman told reporters at a news conference Saturday evening.

Shannon J. Miles, 30, was picked up for questioning early Saturday, Hickman said, according to a Reuters report. The sheriff said the suspect apparently targeted sheriff’s Deputy Darren Goforth only because of his uniform.

Goforth had stopped to fill up his patrol car at a suburban Houston gas station Friday night when a man approached from behind and “literally shot him to death,” Hickman said.

Hickman said Miles has a previous police record, including charges of resisting arrest and trespassing. He was being held Saturday in Harris County.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/29/texas-sheriffs-deputy-ambushed-in-execution-style-killing-at-gas-station/

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Texas Sheriff’s Office Identifies Defendant In Deputy’s ‘Execution-Style Killing’ (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2015 OP
"Trespassing" means one of two things XemaSab Aug 2015 #1
People can be trespassed for any number of reasons.. the_sly_pig Aug 2015 #39
Targeted for what he looked like on the outside. Huh. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #2
What makes it an "execution sytle" killing? TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #3
The murderer approached from behind, shot him multiple times, then stood over him and Ex Lurker Aug 2015 #4
So is that any different that police on black shootings? TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Aug 2015 #8
Did you just jump in with out reading my earlier posts? TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #10
My bad. GGJohn Aug 2015 #11
Right because Michael Brown was an innocent kid going to Sunday school and minding his own business thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #18
And those crimes warrant a death sentence without the benefit of trial? n/t Kennah Aug 2015 #25
Common sense would suggest that getting into a violent confrontation with an officer thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #26
Whatever was Mike Brown thinking to walk around while black? n/t Kennah Aug 2015 #33
I'd like to know what he was thinking about christx30 Aug 2015 #40
He was likely engaged in criminal behavior on the day of his death ... Kennah Aug 2015 #50
Wilson didn't target and execute an innocent person. christx30 Aug 2015 #51
See post #51 christx30 Aug 2015 #55
A disingenuous characterization of Mike Brown's behavior to put it mildly thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #41
Certainly not. But he wasnt "executed" 7962 Aug 2015 #44
Enjoy your stay philosslayer Aug 2015 #48
I will...whatever that means. thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #54
That is indeed an execution MissDeeds Aug 2015 #6
My guess is he's schizophrenic Gman Aug 2015 #7
Maybe he's just a criminal prick that can't get along with anyone: christx30 Aug 2015 #9
Big jump atreides1 Aug 2015 #12
yep, that dude should have been put down long ago. tapermaker Aug 2015 #13
While the sarcasm is awesome, I wasn't saying that christx30 Aug 2015 #16
Bunch of resisting arrest Downwinder Aug 2015 #19
There are an awful lot of people who demonstrate for their civil rights with those same charges. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #14
Really? christx30 Aug 2015 #17
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #21
So if you're tired of the injustice and the racism, christx30 Aug 2015 #22
Is this a joke? Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #24
Ridiculous that it was only a 4-3 vote to hide that post. Ace Rothstein Aug 2015 #30
Ugh. That was some scary bigoted murder-loving shit! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #32
Gives me a bad taste for the jury system. 840high Aug 2015 #35
+1 DashOneBravo Aug 2015 #38
Yeah, I think we have some extremists in our midst thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #42
Exactly. Three jurors should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #49
Unfortunately, no. "Couple HUNDRED MILLION racists". 7962 Aug 2015 #45
I saw that. Almost all of the offenses Gman Aug 2015 #27
On what do you base that speculation? Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #23
See reply #27 Gman Aug 2015 #29
That's not evidence; it's vague correlation Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #31
Of course that's not evidence Gman Aug 2015 #34
Regardless of his purported mental state, I do not envy Mr. Miles defense counsel. nt branford Aug 2015 #36
I don't either. Gman Aug 2015 #37
He could have been angry.. cannabis_flower Aug 2015 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #15
Well, as long as you are "remembering", lets remember these 28 (oops,now 29) killed by thug cops. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #20
Yeah there's a credible news outlet, lol thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #28
Unbiased source for sure. 7962 Aug 2015 #46
From the article: marble falls Aug 2015 #47
Read up-thread. Igel Aug 2015 #52
Glad they caught him TeddyR Aug 2015 #53

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
39. People can be trespassed for any number of reasons..
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:05 AM
Aug 2015

Theft, shoplifting, harassment, threats, multiple instances of causing disturbances or whatever. If someone has cause to want to prevent another person from being on their property, owners or business people can have the problem persons trespassed.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. What makes it an "execution sytle" killing?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:13 PM
Aug 2015

Was the deputy facing a firing squad, blind folded and shot after a last cigarette? Were the killings of Michael Brown et al executions?

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
5. So is that any different that police on black shootings?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

I believe that is called summary execution.

A summary execution is an execution in which a person is accused of a crime and immediately killed without benefit of a full and fair trial.

Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #5)

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
10. Did you just jump in with out reading my earlier posts?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

My 1st question is why is the S.O. deputy's killing being billed "execution" style. Then I brought up the killings of African Americans by police as summary executions, i.e. Michael Brown.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
11. My bad.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

I was reading your post as you saying the police officer was summarily executed.
I apologize and will delete the post.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
18. Right because Michael Brown was an innocent kid going to Sunday school and minding his own business
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:56 PM
Aug 2015

You'd think that Brown had already robbed a convenience store, shoved an old shopkeeper out of the way, and fought with an officer in his car.

Oh wait, he actually did do those things.

Like I told someone else, fortunately, your views will NEVER EVER receive the support of the mainstream in this society.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
26. Common sense would suggest that getting into a violent confrontation with an officer
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:38 PM
Aug 2015

Is going to escalate things quite seriously. It's not a case of Mike Brown being judged and executed. Mike Brown made decisions in real time that had consequences in real time. That's not to say that Darren Wilson was 'right', but his reaction wasn't criminal. He didn't set out to execute Mike Brown, who was a man of free will right up until he made the decision to fight with an officer in his car. At that point, it became Wilson's decision to make in terms of how to react.

There are some instances where I find myself in complete agreement with the protesters of police abuses. Actually, I support any and all reforms to end genuine abuse. But I'm not going to sympathize with people who invite police aggression themselves. I think that the movement loses credibility when it does that. It also loses credibility and moral high ground when it tacitly endorses the killing of officers without any provocation, as some are obviously doing on this thread.

Kennah

(14,273 posts)
50. He was likely engaged in criminal behavior on the day of his death ...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:11 PM
Aug 2015

... but I fail to see how some justify his killer's actions. Ironic that this thread should sidetrack the way it has. The message appears to be that Cops Matter, Black People Don't.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
51. Wilson didn't target and execute an innocent person.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:39 PM
Aug 2015

Michael Brown thought Wilson was there to arrest him for the strong armed robbery of the shop. Michael attacked the cop and tried to take his gun. Wilson opened fire to save his own life. If Brown had walked on the sidewalk (instead of the middle of the street) like a normal person, if he would have been less confrontational with Wilson, he would have gone home and lived to steal another day.

And if Wilson hadn't of opened fire, well...
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
41. A disingenuous characterization of Mike Brown's behavior to put it mildly
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:49 AM
Aug 2015

The store surveillance video taken moments before his confrontation with officer Wilson makes it pretty clear that Mike Brown was behaving like a thug. And while I would often agree that the word 'thug' has become a racially-loaded word these days, it applies in the case of Mike Brown. That doesn't mean he 'deserved' to die, and yes, it's sad what ultimately happened to him.

But the point you guys seem to miss is that this isn't a debate about whether someone deserves to be executed over a bottle of shoplifted pop. Mike Brown wasn't, as you all seem to want to believe, executed. He wasn't stalked. Officer Brown didn't even have time to get out of his car before Brown assaulted him. It became a matter of perceived threat versus actual threat, and as the shooting of this officer proved, that's an assessment that gets an officer sent to the undertaker if they get that assessment wrong. Mike Brown's behavior played a big part in his death. Officer Brown perceived Mike Brown as a threat to his life. We can criticize and condemn his police training and question whether he followed that training, but Mike Brown could have behaved differently and none of this would have ever happened. Mike Brown's the one who forced officer Wilson to make a decision.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
6. That is indeed an execution
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:27 PM
Aug 2015

Prayers and healing thoughts to his family, friends and fellow officers.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
7. My guess is he's schizophrenic
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

Or some other delusional disorder. It was too random to be otherwise. Nothing else like radical political beliefs, that we know of. Except the police would have been more than happy to trumpet anything other than a disorder.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Maybe he's just a criminal prick that can't get along with anyone:
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:33 PM
Aug 2015

His criminal history:

02/03/2009 – Harris County – Metro – Resist Arrest/Search – Nolo Contender – 6 days jail
05/12/2007 – Harris County – HCSO – Criminal Trespass – property of Debra Dahlman – Guilty – 10 days jail
05/03/2007 – Harris County – Jersey Village PD – Evading Arrest – Guilty – 10 days jail (credit for some time in)
12/31/2006 – Harris County – HPD – Disorderly Conduct (discharging firearm) – Guilty – 15 days jail
10/02/2005 – Harris County – HCSO – Evading Detention (dismissed and refiled as) Resist Arrest/Search – Guilty – 8 days jail
07/04/2005 – Harris County – HCSO – Criminal Mischief destruction of property $50 – $500 (was originally a Felony but was reduced to a Misdemeanor) (the complainant was Peggy O’Neal who is the registered owner of the house where Miles lives. O’Neal is also listed on Miles Facebook page.) – Guilty – 3 days jail
02/15/2005 – Harris County – U of H PD – Fail to Identify giving False Info – Guilty – 4 days

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
12. Big jump
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:23 PM
Aug 2015

He leapt all the way from Resisting arrest to murder...that's quite a leap!

There is more to this then what's on the surface...he killed a deputy...but the reason why still isn't clear!

 

tapermaker

(244 posts)
13. yep, that dude should have been put down long ago.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

I am surprised they didn't put him down like a dog with this rap sheet. This will give them all the reasons they need to make sure the next dark dude meets his maker after just one misd. offense. ( snark OKAY!!)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
16. While the sarcasm is awesome, I wasn't saying that
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:50 PM
Aug 2015

he should have been put down. But this guy has displayed a lot of behavior in his past that isn't great. He definitely shouldn't have had a gun. My guess is that he got it illegally. Maybe he hated cops because of his many arrests. I guess we'll find out if he's captured.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. There are an awful lot of people who demonstrate for their civil rights with those same charges.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

I wonder if this is one that just saw too many summary executions of people with black skin.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
17. Really?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:54 PM
Aug 2015

Any evidence this guy is a protestor, looking out for the rights of others? Have there been any protests in Harris county?
He can also get criminal trespass for breaking into a home or business.

Response to christx30 (Reply #17)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
22. So if you're tired of the injustice and the racism,
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

do we need to worry about you walking up behind a cop somewhere and shooting him multiple times, finishing off with a coup de grace?

I don't like cops either, and I hate racists too. But I hate violent people more.

But you go on making excuses for a cold blooded murderer. That's awesome.

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
32. Ugh. That was some scary bigoted murder-loving shit!
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

I mean, uh, that was fine liberal outrage in the service of justice and a better society.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
42. Yeah, I think we have some extremists in our midst
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:52 AM
Aug 2015

The democratic party is the strongest when it resembles the party of FDR, not the party of Bill Ayers.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
45. Unfortunately, no. "Couple HUNDRED MILLION racists".
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:25 AM
Aug 2015

So basically, every white person. This is what we're becoming here. And banned 4-3. The other 3 apparently members of the same club

Gman

(24,780 posts)
27. I saw that. Almost all of the offenses
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:40 PM
Aug 2015

Are things paranoid and delusional people do. Especially the resisting and trespassing. Not that everyone that resists or trespasses is schizo. But schizos have a habit of doing those things more frequently.

If there were some thefts or drug dealing in the rap sheet that would be a different story. Those are money motivated which is a rational choice.

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
23. On what do you base that speculation?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:17 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe he was crazy.

Maybe he was the cop's jilted lover.

Maybe he and the cop planned the whole thing in advance, because the cop was dying painfully of prostate cancer, and the shooter was his best friend, and when they discussed euthanasia the cop said "I wanna die in a hail of bullets while pumping gas - please do that for me, would ya?"

With zero evidence for any of the above, one theory is as much BS as the next.

If he is schizophrenic, he will have a medical record and past incidents to prove it. I'll wait.

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
31. That's not evidence; it's vague correlation
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015

I yell at people sometimes.

Schizophrenics sometimes do that too..

Now, if I go out and shoot someone in the back, can I count on you to say, "She was probably hallucinating. I've heard her yell at people."

Gman

(24,780 posts)
34. Of course that's not evidence
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:13 PM
Aug 2015

You asked why I thought that. It just fits a pattern and its not any kind of evidence. We'll know more in days to come

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
43. He could have been angry..
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:59 AM
Aug 2015

A few days ago a television reporter and a cameraman was killed by an angry man. He was angry that he had been fired and probably had a narcissistic personality disorder.

Perhaps this guy was angry about the recent killing of Sandra Bland in Waller. Also this law enforcement organization, the Harris County Sheriff's Department was recently involved in doing a cavity search on a young black woman in broad daylight in the parking lot of a gas station because they thought they smelled marijuana. She had been pulled over for running a stop sign. People have a right to be angry - they don't have the right to kill the police.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. Well, as long as you are "remembering", lets remember these 28 (oops,now 29) killed by thug cops.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:59 PM
Aug 2015

This may not have been the first time the shooter and the cop saw each other. The department will investigate, but the results will likely just support whatever they dream up.


...
– 28 cases of state sanctioned or justified murder of Black people in the first 3
months of 2012 alone have been found (due to under reporting and discriminatory
methods of documentation, it is likely that there are more that our research has yet
to uncover)

– Of the 28 killed people, 18 were definitely unarmed. 2 probably had firearms, 8
were alleged to have non-lethal weapons.

– Of the 28 killed people,

. 11 were innocent of any illegal behavior or behavior that involved a
threat to anyone (although the shooters claimed they looked “suspicious”);

. 7 were emotionally disturbed and/or displaying strange behavior.
...



http://hiphopandpolitics.com/2012/04/06/29-black-people-have-been-killed-by-policesecurity-since-jan-2012-16-since-trayvon/
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
46. Unbiased source for sure.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:38 AM
Aug 2015

Fists can be a weapon. But this list leaves that tiny fact out of the zimmerman story. Not a defense of zimmerman, but there was an altercation that isnt mentioned. Which makes the other stories suspect as well. Was there fighting going on? And one they just assume is black!
And when you consider being killed in a crash while running from the cops "murder", you'll jump to that conclusion on any situation.
Lame site

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
47. From the article:
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:40 AM
Aug 2015

"But in speaking about the incident, authorities also referenced the broader national conversation regarding the relationship between law enforcement and the communities they police. Hickman said there was a “dangerous national rhetoric” regarding police.

“At any point where the rhetoric ramps up to the point where calculated, cold-blooded assassination of police officers happen — this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” Hickman said. “We’ve heard ‘black lives matter,’ ‘all lives matter.’ Well, cops’ lives matter too. So why don’t we just drop the qualifier, and just say ‘lives matter,’ and take that to the bank.”

I sorry, but that stuff was uncalled for in this tragic murder.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
52. Read up-thread.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:24 PM
Aug 2015

There are a lot of half-hearted or near-justifications proffered for the hater's actions.

He's angry.

He's mentally ill.

Etc.

Now look at when police shoot a black guy. Even if armed, to mention half-hearted or near-justifications is to be smeared with "racist" or some such general term of abuse. Just to say, "Let's wait for the facts" is to be a wholly-owned subsidiary of the fascist police state.

Instead you get a kind of two-way split. The reason for the killings is skin color. And the justification for being viewed as innocent and the cop's guilt is skin color. It's like the engineering quip, If the only tool you have is a hammer then every problem looks like a nail.

The fact is, for many black lives don't matter. They matter no more than any others. But they matter.

Similarly, for many police lives don't matter. One could argue that since they're acting on the behalf of "we the people" they're our representatives. If they act in that capacity and kill, it's not an attack on a single life but on public order and "we". They matter because black lives matter. Reject the thinking or not, it's as immaterial as believing that pi = 3.00.

It's okay for one group to point out the inherent hatred and bias. It's okay for the other group to do the same.

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