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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:45 PM Aug 2015

Argentina Creditors Can’t Seize Assets of Central Bank, Court Rules

Source: Wall Street Journal

Argentina Creditors Can’t Seize Assets of Central Bank, Court Rules

Decision reverses earlier ruling that would have opened nation’s reserves to hedge funds

By
Julie Wernau

Aug. 31, 2015 12:56 p.m. ET


Creditors owed billions by Argentina can’t seize the assets of its central bank, a U.S. court ruled Monday.

The decision marks a key reversal of a district-court ruling that would have opened the sovereign nation’s reserves to hedge funds who sought to declare Banco Central de la Republica Argentina (BCRA) an “alter ego” of the South American nation.

Creditors who hold $2.4 billion in judgments against the nation stemming from a 2001 default on more than $80 billion in debt have repeatedly failed to find a way to collect. Argentina has repeatedly referred to the hedge funds as “vultures.”

. . .

A three-member panel of judges at the 2nd Circuit said U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa erred in ruling that Argentina’s central bank had waived its sovereign immunity.

Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/argentina-creditors-cant-seize-assets-of-central-bank-court-rules-1441040165

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Argentina Creditors Can’t Seize Assets of Central Bank, Court Rules (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2015 OP
Sure seems like Griesa needs to be removed dieter Aug 2015 #1
And investigated for possible (almost certain) bribery. forest444 Aug 2015 #2
US court backs Argentina in asset seizure appeal Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #3
Ya think? nt bemildred Sep 2015 #4
Good decision... With a couple lessons... Adrahil Sep 2015 #5
 

dieter

(94 posts)
1. Sure seems like Griesa needs to be removed
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

At least from these cases. The appellate court has overturned many of his most critical rulings in favor of Wall Street. Griesa looks like a hack for Wall Street more and more all the time.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. And investigated for possible (almost certain) bribery.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

The proof is in the pudding: Vulture funds are Cayman Islands-based laundromats that handle billions in drug (and possibly terrorist) money without paying a cent in U.S. taxes. Obviously paying off a Nixon-appointed judge wouldn't be a problem either.

Then consider Greasa himself: that old buzzard has bent himself backward to facilitate every vulture fund extortion tactic, even rewriting Champerty laws that cover bondholder good faith. That is, you can't buy bonds with the bad faith intent of suing for more later - except apparently in the case of foreign bonds, which is why the sovereign bond market is stampeding to London as we speak (thousands of Wall Street jobs; trillions of dollars). He also bought a million-dollar ranch in Montana.

Greasa does this knowing that there's no way they can collect 1600% when all other bondholders had to swap for 30 cents on the dollar a decade ago - and the vulture funds weren't even "creditors" (as they're often called in the media); they bought their bonds from resellers a few years ago.

What often gets lost in these stories is that Argentina's legitimate bondholders have been paid religiously for 10 years and have actually had the value of their bonds more than double. When you include interest payments, in fact, all bondholders who swapped in 2005 and have held their Argentine bonds since then, have already recouped their initial investment and then some.

If Paul Singer wants 1600%, he should try hitting Uncle Sam up for more TARP money. They printed $12 billion out of thin air for the man from thr Caymans once, I'm sure they don't mind doing it again.

For more on the Argentine case, and how he already fleeced Uncle Sam: http://www.gregpalast.com/how-barack-obama-could-end-the-argentina-debt-crisis/

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
3. US court backs Argentina in asset seizure appeal
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015

US court backs Argentina in asset seizure appeal
AFP
September 1, 2015, 4:21 am

New York (AFP) - A US appeals court supported Argentina's appeal Monday against an earlier ruling that could have permitted a group of creditors to seize assets of Argentina's central bank.

The US Court of Appeals in Manhattan said the September 2013 ruling by lower court judge Thomas Griesa that allowed exceptions to the sovereign immunity claims of the Central Bank of Argentina were in error.

Griesa, who has consistently backed New York hedge funds in their 10-year campaign to claim payment on long-defaulted Argentine bonds, had opened the door for them to seize funds of the central bank held in US banks in lieu of payment.

Argentina has refused to pay the hedge funds, maintaining that their decision to not join most of the country's creditors in a restructuring of its debt gave up their rights for payment.

More:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29398876/

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. Good decision... With a couple lessons...
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 06:40 AM
Sep 2015

1). Don't be a vulture investor dick.

2). Don't loan Argentina money.

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