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Archae

(46,337 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:38 PM Aug 2015

Supremacist vows to ‘die a martyr’ for Jewish site killings

Source: WBAY-TV, ABC affiliate in Green Bay, WI

OLATHE, Kan. (AP) — The man who admitted killing three people at two suburban Kansas City Jewish sites told jurors Monday that he hoped to “die a martyr” for the shootings, which he said were motivated by “the genocide against white people by Jews.”

The jury of seven men and five women began deliberating Monday afternoon, shortly after hearing the rambling closing argument by Frazier Glenn Miller, 74, of Aurora, Missouri, who is representing himself at trial. He could face the death penalty if convicted.

During the prosecution’s closing, District Attorney Steve Howe cited a “mountain of evidence” against Miller, who is charged with capital murder in the April 2014 shootings at two Jewish sites in Overland Park, Kansas. Although he has admitted to killing the three people, he has pleaded not guilty, saying it was his duty to stop genocide against the white race. None of the victims was Jewish.

Read more: http://wbay.com/ap/supremacist-vows-to-die-a-martyr-for-jewish-site-killings/



Just toss this guy into a little cell and he'll be forgotten.
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Supremacist vows to ‘die a martyr’ for Jewish site killings (Original Post) Archae Aug 2015 OP
there are others like him out there JI7 Aug 2015 #1
Yup. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #2
And they use their dog whistles to do so JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #6
I know your ears are hurting too. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #7
And yet right here at DU JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #9
They aren't fooling me! Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #25
Where do they get the idea of Jews as a threat to white people? jwirr Aug 2015 #8
"Mein Kampf"? lastlib Sep 2015 #23
That would make sense. I was wondering if there was jwirr Sep 2015 #31
It began in the Middle Ages...maybe a bit before. Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #26
Thank you. It is just sickening that this is still around. jwirr Sep 2015 #33
Indeed. Jews are a threat to white people? Has this idiot read even one history Nay Aug 2015 #14
I am sure he has read a history book or two. Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #28
I'm still trying to figure out what genocide he is talking about. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #22
Right?! Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #27
Of course. Archae Aug 2015 #3
If acquitted he would fit perfectly as VP candidate with Trump randys1 Aug 2015 #4
My thoughts exactly. Not much difference between his rants and the feces throwers. Laser102 Aug 2015 #21
Throw the "Supremacist" into a "Super max" until he dies. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #5
this guy seems like a great candidate for isolation rurallib Aug 2015 #10
It won't be for long. Downwinder Aug 2015 #11
He's 74 yrs old.... lastlib Sep 2015 #24
Righto... Helen Borg Sep 2015 #29
Just toss the guy into solitary confinement for the rest of his life Cry Aug 2015 #12
F. Glen Miller Jr.- domestic terrorist - is an actual real example of the domestic threat of white terrorists that the FBI has now issues Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #13
The last excerpted sentence reads as either mordant black humor or an afterthought whatthehey Aug 2015 #15
life in prison and may he live to be 125 Sunlei Aug 2015 #16
Almost all the Jews sulphurdunn Aug 2015 #17
And once in prison Stryst Aug 2015 #18
Stick him in minimum security with non violent offenders who will ignore or ridicule him. That Monk06 Aug 2015 #19
Miller testified against his brother racists, putting some in jail... Archae Aug 2015 #20
Wow I figured shooting non Jewish white people would not make him popular with the AN but a rat too Monk06 Sep 2015 #32
He'll enjoy talking to himself. Most people would drift off to sleep listening to him. n/t freshwest Sep 2015 #35
I am so glad that the jury convicted this nut case Gothmog Sep 2015 #30
Has anyone explained to this idiot, very slowly if need be Kurska Sep 2015 #34

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
2. Yup.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:46 PM
Aug 2015

Not all of them want to kill us outright, but they sure do make a effort to let us know where our place really is. It is also interesting how sickos like him see Jews as a threat to "white people."

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
7. I know your ears are hurting too.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:52 PM
Aug 2015

Seems to be a pastime for some. People look at this asshole and easily see an anti-Semite...most people. However, it is the more insidious ways at degrading, defaming, and diminishing Jewish people which seem to baffle some, much like it is in regards to racism, homophobia, and sexism.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
9. And yet right here at DU
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:56 PM
Aug 2015

We have Americans looking down their noses at countries in which the Holocaust occurred for locking down hate speech.

Duuuuuh - when you've already been down a path with a bad end - you stop the next walk down the path toute suite.

They aren't fooling me. They fooling you?

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
25. They aren't fooling me!
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015

Everything from "Jewish establishment" to "traitor" have been used with impunity, it is why I liked what President Obama said in this article: Obama: Attacking Jews Over Iran Deal Like Saying He's 'Not Black Enough', though it was about the right-wing attacking the left, the principle is still the same when it goes the other way (or even within the ranks). Of course, Jews who get offended are labeled "whiners" and "needing special treatment", as exemplified in the comments to this article, Reports: Israelis shocked by misting showers at Auschwitz.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. That would make sense. I was wondering if there was
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 08:49 AM
Sep 2015

some new source. Probably neo-Nazi is the most likely source.

As if we do not have enough troubles already.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
26. It began in the Middle Ages...maybe a bit before.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:47 AM
Sep 2015

Jews were seen as a distinct race, different from others, and in the religious sense, children of Satan. This, of course, mutated into the rhetoric used by Nazis declaring Jews to be Untermensch, sub-human, along with various other groups, but Jews, in particular, were the worst of the bunch because not only were they "not human" they were responsible for all of the ills of Germany, even the world. If you read "Stormfront", you will see the posters make a distinction between Jews and white people, even other ethnic whites (Irish, Italian, etc.). When this asshole shot and killed those people, the members of "Stormfront" mourned the loss of white life and were angry no Jews were killed.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
33. Thank you. It is just sickening that this is still around.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 09:03 AM
Sep 2015

We are supposed to be so enlightened. But of course we have spent the last 40+ years proving that we are anything but enlightened.

I think we have actually turned the world upside down. Greed, pride, selfishness, hate etc. are no longer called what they are - sins against our fellow humans - and are actually seen as good. They have never been good and they never will be.

In this one way the internet and all media sources are not good because theses ideas are spreading just like our own ideas. And there is not much we can do to stop it.

As many of you know I am of German ancestry - family immigrated in the 1860s - and I feel the need to apologize to all Jewish people for the idiocy we started. And I intend to continue to fight this racism along side of all those who are oppressed.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
14. Indeed. Jews are a threat to white people? Has this idiot read even one history
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

book? Guess not. This is a case of severe transference -- he's accusing the victims of doing what the victimizers did.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
28. I am sure he has read a history book or two.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:55 AM
Sep 2015

He just didn't comprehend it in the way you or I or any rational person did. Charges like "dual loyalty", "controlling the banks/media", and "forcing multiculturalism" are often the examples they use in their twisted rewrite of history to demonstrate that Jews are trying to take over. What is really scary is when that shit is flung at us from those on the left. The only upside to their movement is it is mainly populated with cowards, who don't have the stones to make a move, which is why we se "lone wolves" and the occasional politician. Today's Nazis are much more covert.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
27. Right?!
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:50 AM
Sep 2015

However, having studied these pit stains, I can tell you the "genocide" of which they speak is "multiculturalism", which is the brain-child of the Jews (according to them). It is the way of the Jews to dilute the purity of the white race in order to make a complete takeover easier. Seriously, I am not kidding, that's what they believe!

Archae

(46,337 posts)
3. Of course.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:46 PM
Aug 2015

And they want their "martyrs to the cause" just like the wack job Islamics have.

Toss this guy in a jail cell, he'll sit and eventually die, forgotten.

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
10. this guy seems like a great candidate for isolation
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

I am not much in favor of this, but just stick this guy in a cell by himself and check on him a couple times a day.

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
24. He's 74 yrs old....
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:33 AM
Sep 2015

and I gather his health ain't real good. He may be dead before the appeals are done. So life w/o parole should be a good enough sentence, and it denies him the "martyrdom" he craves. So why kill him?

 

Cry

(65 posts)
12. Just toss the guy into solitary confinement for the rest of his life
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:06 PM
Aug 2015

Let him think about being a martyr while he's long forgotten.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. F. Glen Miller Jr.- domestic terrorist - is an actual real example of the domestic threat of white terrorists that the FBI has now issues
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

two comprehensive reports warning about, but it appears that white privilege extends to most of America having no fear of actual white terrorism, while still being able to cling to the hypocritical whites-only privilege of living in sheer terror of terrorist brown folks only, real or imagined.

White terrorists are just not very scary to whites....so, logically speaking, white mass killers can never be terrorists!

Just the way it is.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
15. The last excerpted sentence reads as either mordant black humor or an afterthought
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

I'm not sure which. Neither are particularly appropriate for straight TV news.

Stryst

(714 posts)
18. And once in prison
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:41 PM
Aug 2015

he'll join the Aryan Brotherhood and kill a few more for his "cause". One of the cases that stresses my opposition to the death penalty.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
19. Stick him in minimum security with non violent offenders who will ignore or ridicule him. That
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:57 PM
Aug 2015

would also prevent him from being coddled by Aryan Nation gang punks. He wants attention so deny it to him.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
20. Miller testified against his brother racists, putting some in jail...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015

And shot and killed three people who are *NOT* Jews.

Yeah, the Aryan Nation would find him to be *REAL* worth their while. /s

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
32. Wow I figured shooting non Jewish white people would not make him popular with the AN but a rat too
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 08:54 AM
Sep 2015

Damn that boy is going to need super max solitary.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
34. Has anyone explained to this idiot, very slowly if need be
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

He didn't even kill any Jew. He just gunned essentially 3 random people who happened to be near a Jewish place of worship.

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