Clinton To Propose U.S. Campaign Finance Overhaul
Source: Reuters
Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton will propose a slate of campaign finance reform measures on Tuesday aimed at limiting political donations by corporations and large donors and increasing transparency in election spending.
Clinton, who is seeking the nomination to be the Democratic candidate in the November 2016 presidential election, identified measures she would pursue if she becomes president.
Among them are rules requiring greater disclosure of political spending including by publicly traded companies and U.S. government contractors and a program that would provide matching funds for small donations to presidential and congressional candidates.
"We have to end the flood of secret, unaccountable money that is distorting our elections, corrupting our political system, and drowning out the voices of too many everyday Americans," Clinton said in a statement issued by her campaign.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/us-usa-election-clinton-campaignfinance-idUSKCN0R809E20150908
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applegrove
(118,696 posts)
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Tea Potty
(27 posts)Damn, even Biden now admits our economy is fucked.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)
riversedge
(70,242 posts)
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I love words!!!
angrychair
(8,702 posts)Contributions from large corporations and PACs to her campaign this doesn't seem to ring true from her. If you are going to talk the talk than walk the walk and drop your large corporate donations.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)between Citizens United unlimited secret donations and hers.
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)A Constitutional Amendment overturning Citizens United and new Supreme Court Justices, but Bernie will be faced with the same obstacles. It will be HARD, and big money will oppose every step of the way no matter who is in the White House.
I think Bernie can come closer to getting it done, though, which is why I'm supporting him. But this is very encouraging about Clinton.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)new pragmatic proposals need to be in place also--in the short-term.
As you say--it will be hard--and we know it will be LONG haul to do the Constitutional Amendment
.........Clinton also plans to call for an overturning of the controversial 2010 Citizens United ruling by the Supreme Court. It allowed corporations and individuals to spend unlimited money for political advocacy through independent political action committees so long as they do not coordinate with candidates. ................
Overturning the ruling would require new Supreme Court justices as well as amending the Constitution, according to Clinton's plans, and both are fraught with uncertainty.
Blackbird1
(1 post)These sounds like desperate measures from someone who's been caught with her hand in the cookie jar. Personally, I'm not buying it - after she has well cushioned her campaign with their donations, suddenly she's had a turn of heart?
This is a desperate move to ebb away at the gains and message that Senator Sanders has been making since day one and every campaign speech he's made since. Sanders' message is resonating well with voters and now all of sudden Ms. Clinton or her people "have seen the light".
The only way I'm ever going to buy this message from her is when she returns the money from Citizen United enrollees, the banksters, Wall Street hoods and/or big PAC money contributors?
Citigroup Inc $782,327
Goldman Sachs $711,490
DLA Piper $628,030
JPMorgan Chase & Co $620,919
EMILY's List $605,174
Morgan Stanley $543,065
Time Warner $411,296
Skadden, Arps et al $406,640
Lehman Brothers $362,853
Squire Patton Boggs $310,596
Ernst & Young $297,142
Merrill Lynch $292,303
Credit Suisse Group $290,600
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019
A few weeks ago Ms. Clinton delivered her economic plan speech informing her supporters all about the evils of the rigged banking system, Wall Street and the corrupted corporations, namely Citizens United but before she did, she was warmly welcomed to the podium by the CEO of Goldman Sachs.
Are Ms. Clinton's supporters really this gullible or perhaps just desperate at this point, that they'll willing swallow any message from her that sounds anywhere close to what the Senator has been orating for the last 20 years? Let's try and be a little bit more honest about this.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)corporate money is Emily's List.
She is proposing - Bernie is doing.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)that any of it will be on the agenda once she is elected.
coolepairc
(50 posts)Hillary has zero credibility on the issue of money in politics. She pioneered the Policy for Cash scheme.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)she's gonna kick ass!
marlakay
(11,476 posts)Stuff myself all day then say I'll be good tomorrow!
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Something to appease the masses....
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)until then .......... the law's the law
rsexaminer
(321 posts)We really need to repeal Citizens United, that's the real only hope left.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)I am glad to see Clinton make these proposals.
....Clinton also plans to call for an overturning of the controversial 2010 Citizens United ruling by the Supreme Court. It allowed corporations and individuals to spend unlimited money for political advocacy through independent political action committees so long as they do not coordinate with candidates.
..........
Overturning the ruling would require new Supreme Court justices as well as amending the Constitution, according to Clinton's plans, and both are fraught with uncertainty.
coolepairc
(50 posts)I might believe this drivel if she returned all the corporate cash and disbanded the SuperPacs.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Court rulings are overturned. Or the courts are overturned....take your pick.
sorry *overturn Citizens United.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)the guy who isn't hooked on the corporate money.
If we elect Hillary who takes that money, then we are saying yes to the big donors and corporate money and they will fight very hard to keep their power and control.
If we vote for Bernie, we send the message that their money does not buy power and control and we will be able to get Congress to pass the amendment.
If we vote for Hillary, Congress will say that the corporate and big donor money elected her and the members of Congress will not have the courage to go into elections without that money and will not vote for the end of Citizens United.
It's not Hillary who has to do something to end Citizens United. It is we who must do that.
And what we have to do is to elect Bernie Sanders.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Not a single congressperson has endorsed him.
The "they can't have theirs until we get ours" theme is attractive to people a tad on the cynical side and who like to dream of utopia but in reality, to push any legislation through congress takes muscle of strategy, coalitions and machines.
This is why Dalai Lama, Mother Theresa and Gandhi failed.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)
What is your measure of success?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Dalai Lama -- still a refugee and unable to wrench Tibet back from the Chinese with touchy-feely words.
Mother Teresa -- raised over $790 million for her charity by using poor people in Calcutta as props -- most of the money went to the Vatican to pay for missionaries' expenses to recruit more people. (She was about to be indicted in India when she got the Nobel prize and it was hushed up.) Calcutta now has four times more sick and poor than when Mother Teresa started.
Gandhi -- Gandhi's stupidity resulted in Pakistan which resulted in 4 wars, millions killed, hundreds of thousands raped in Bangladesh by the Pakistani army and now a potential nuclear conflict.
coolepairc
(50 posts)Hillary is a war hawk, even more so than SoD Gates (a Republican) during her time as SoS. Clinton-style philanthropy: first, create problems with wars, supporting the corporate agenda throughout the world, then pretend to solve said problems. Sorry, not buying it. Honestly, you're resorting to attacking Mother Teresa, Dalai Lama and Gandhi now. That has to be a new low.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)than what was propagnadised in the West.
I have always known the three of them to be failures and it has nothing to do with HRC.
Idealists eventually fail and end up hurting the ones they want to help/protect the most.
Long term winners are pragmatists -- always.
frylock
(34,825 posts)let the Democrats go on ahead and obstruct Sanders. The people will take care of them in the next midterm.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I'm guessing I may be wrong. 
L0oniX
(31,493 posts) cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Just wait to see big dawg promoting her agenda to the American people. His power of communication and persuasion is unmatched. Which is why he gets $250K for a speech -- which he donates to charity.
coolepairc
(50 posts)You don't get paid 250K promoting the interests of the American people. You get paid that kind of money supporting the interests of big money. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth here. Is big money in politics a good thing or not? Please make up your mind.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Let me state it more slowly CHA.......RI........TY
It is NOT big money in POLITICS ... it is big money in PHILANTHROPY... PHI...LAN...THRO..PY
Don't you know that FEC regulations don't allow individuals to contribute more than $2600 to an individual campaign? No one CAN donate $250K.
Gawd some people are confused.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Big difference!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)
Volaris
(10,272 posts)WE control Congress. They can answer to us or they can get the fuck UNELECTED in 2018.
If Sanders wins the whole shebang, I would almost bet that will be the White House message for the first 2 years, too.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)follow him like the pied piper. Inside every person is an extreme inner socialist that will come out as soon as Bernie Sanders wins and there will be a job for everyone who wants to work, a check for everyone who doesn't want to work, free health insurance for all, planes will all run on time and there will be no earthquakes, wildfires, tornadoes or hurricanes. Rivers will flow full of chocolate milk and people will be celebrating with free beer and wine for all, dancing and singing with extreme joy. Bankers will be kind, giving away loans to people without checking income or credit scores and loan forgiveness for people who just simply can't pay. Oil companies will be giving free burgers and fries at gas stations and thankful for the privilege of serving people. Payments will be optional everywhere.
All this will be paid for with a 98% income tax on rich people who will just happily offer 99% shamed by their inner socialist.
mmmm hmmmmmmmm
frylock
(34,825 posts)
arcane1
(38,613 posts) Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)It was just a week or so ago she was telling the democratic party she is their gal, who unlike Biden can raise to most money for incumbents to get re-elected.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And I wonder who she decided she best co-op this message from?
I'll stick with the honest and authentic candidate that had been calling for reforms for years.
Go Bernie!
madokie
(51,076 posts)her mission is to be elected president. Same as its been for a long time with her.
Bernie will be our next President
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Every candidate will say and do whatever it takes to be president. Do you think Bernie wouldn't?
Bernie is a guy who has repeatedly put down democrats and democratic party. Now when it is convenient, he is running AS a democrat. Bernie Sanders, always the I-Vermont.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I hope it sinks in. 
Have a good day, I plan to.
I feel good in knowing that my next president will be Bernie Sanders, not Hillary or any of the clown car occupants.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Please keep us informed as you find the lost city of Atlantis, feed your pet unicorn and see the Loch Ness monster up close.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)I guess that means the next stage is that Hillary wins. Oh wait, no! Actually, Gandhi failed, therefore, Bernie will be winning. Yay!
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm not much into deep water so looking for Atlantis is out
Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)to overturn Citizens United is realistic to you then? Talk about a rainbow-farting unicorn! She routinely speaks at closed-door big donor dinners. She and Bill have made $30 million in the past 18 months alone - mostly in speaking fees. She isn't making that money speaking to family farmers and cashiers. Believing she will turn her back on these donors and support economically progressive policies for the rest of us once President is what is akin to finding Atlantis.
There are some here at DU who believe her campaign war chest is the biggest element in her electtability and support her for that reason over any policy she recommends, once the focus groups tell her what to recommend that is.
And no, Bernie is not doing 'whatever it takes.' He hasn't spent a political career cozying up to Wall ST and other monied interests. He isn't doing it currently either.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)It is amusing and annoying to see people repeating right wing talking points to attack.
1. They get high speaking fees because they can. The money goes to CHARITY.
2. No donor can give more than the maximum and Clintons have tens of thousands of supporters who have given the maximum. It is because of name recognition and because she was a senator from New York.
3. Vermont doesn't have too many "maximum capable" donors as compared to New York. That is not Hillary's fault.
4. "closed door big donor dinners" is something ALL politicians do whenever they can. It is the American way and it existed even before Citizens United. Such donations are TRANSPARENT and PUBLICLY REPORTED. The wording "closed door big donor dinner" may be enough to rile up troops who are not very savvy about election campaigns but it is just a smear and you should know it. FDR, JFK, LBJ, Harry Truman, Jimmy Carter -- ALL held so called "closed door big donor dinners."
5. Bernie IS doing whatever it takes. He knows how to get followers from the unspoken mantra "they can't have theirs because we haven't had ours". Bernie, if elected as unicorns fly on the backs of pigs in frozen hell, will not have any power to pass anything. The house and the senate will play dodgeball with his head and laugh like hell.
coolepairc
(50 posts)Someone (hint: you) posted this earlier and it's apt to repeat it here: Please keep us informed as you find the lost city of Atlantis, feed your pet unicorn and see the Loch Ness monster up close. I'll bid you adieu now. I simply cannot engage in a discussion at this level of childishness.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Thank you for all the right-wing talking points that I'll no longer have to refute.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)"This is a contact sport, politics," he said. "You can't complain about being attacked. It's like Yao Ming complaining about being fouled playing basketball."
http://www.nysun.com/national/clinton-democrats-will-respond-to-attacks/41854/
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)the very few that are still in office.
frylock
(34,825 posts)if some of your precious Democrats happen to support shit policy, then that's on them. Otherwise, this jilted lover crap is laughable.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)this would help her more than hurt her. I can see where she might push for it, but only because, once in office, it would benefit her.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Prediction... Her "overhaul" will be half-assed compared to his publicly financed elections proposal, like everything else.
Democat
(11,617 posts)That should be the top goal of the democratic party.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)well we hope at least. Selecting nominees. Might be 4??
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)cuz we saw he got crowds for it, the leader, the leader, we'll ape it for our profit, the leader the leader 
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Just check out the number of posers.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)For those not familiar with this term, the previous definition of chutzpah was:
Man accused of murdering his parents throws himself upon the mercy of the courts, begging for leniency because he's just been orphaned....
DhhD
(4,695 posts)promises that she cannot keep just like others in our past.
IMO: Clinton's walk is already bought and paid for; so where is she talking from? Bernie walks the walk so he can talk the talk.
24601
(3,962 posts)publicly nullify all the non-disclosure agreements you have forced people to sign. Do that and you will adopt the same ethical rules Bernie already has.
Words are cheap, Mrs. Clinton. And yours don't measure up to Sen Sanders' in this or any other universe. He puts his money where his mouth is and walks the walk. I call on you to do so or admit you are just another corporate shill, no different from Trump. If you are not willing to do this before becoming President, don't bother to jack us around with empty promises about how you would govern. Show it it can be done and that you are willing by governing yourself now.
fbc
(1,668 posts)But we all know her appropriation of the populist message is for the campaign and if elected she will go back to being Corporate Hillary Clinton.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Clintons have been supporting it long before the great uncle from the north stopped gathering maple syrup.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Unless she adds something besides more disclosure, it could hardly be called an overhaul. More like arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I want to see proposals for regulation, plus means for enforcement, before I believe the "overhaul" stuff.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)The proposals were some of the more sought-after policies that campaign finance reform groups have pressed since the court’s 2010 decision.
“With the release of this strong, bold plan, Hillary Clinton recognizes that in order to create government of, by, and for the people — not just the wealthy campaign funders — it’s crucial to amplify the voices of regular Americans,” David Donnelly, president and CEO of the campaign finance reform group Every Voice, said in a statement. “What she’s proposed is both good policy and good politics. That’s why Clinton should actively campaign on this platform and push these solutions to the center of the debate in the days, weeks, and months to come.”
Link: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55ee4c7ce4b093be51bbe7ea
coolepairc
(50 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)
Interesting timing this. So she woke up today and decided that big money is distorting our elections. She would know. Citigroup and Goldman Sachs (aka Government Goldman) top her career contributors. Her response to big money in politics has always been more big money in politics. She is a shining example of the corrosive effect of money in politics. She does in fact have a flood of money into her campaign war chest which does in fact continue to corrupt her.