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Judi Lynn

(160,630 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:00 PM Sep 2015

Police on scene of shooting outside Nebraska Capitol

Source: CBS/AP

By/ Crimesider Staff/ CBS/AP / September 22, 2015, 3:39 PM

​Police on scene of shooting outside Nebraska Capitol

LINCOLN, Neb. -- Police and medical units are on the scene of a shooting outside the Nebraska Capitol. The shooting happened Tuesday afternoon after a man ran across the Capitol lawn.

Nebraska state Ombudsman Marshall Lux says he saw the man being chased by a police officer across the lawn.

The man then turned and ran into a street bordering the building.

Lux says he heard three shots but didn't see the shooting.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-on-scene-of-shooting-outside-nebraska-capitol/

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Police on scene of shooting outside Nebraska Capitol (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2015 OP
NRA says more guns will solve any problem Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #1
Kindly provide a citation where the NRA actually says "more guns will solve --any-- problem?" branford Sep 2015 #2
NRA implies more guns will solve ... BBG Sep 2015 #3
The myth of the NRA far exceeds reality. branford Sep 2015 #4
 

branford

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2. Kindly provide a citation where the NRA actually says "more guns will solve --any-- problem?"
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

They certainly generally believe people have the right to be armed and engage in lawful self-defense consistent with a broad interpretation of the Second Amendment, as well as support laws and policies that permit groups like teachers to carry weapons for defensive purposes, but to my knowledge, have never made such a broad, definitive, or quite frankly, ludicrous, institutional statement.

You are certainly entitled to any opinion you want concerning guns or the NRA, but hyperbolic straw man arguments and attacks are entirely unhelpful and disingenuous in the firearms debate. If you believe that you must invent comments from the NRA or any other group in order to advance your views, it's a sad commentary on the entire gun control movement.

In any event, given the dearth of information regarding the incident in the OP, there's really not much yet to discuss.

BBG

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3. NRA implies more guns will solve ...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:26 PM
Sep 2015

Most gun problems. At least that's my impression of their stance.

Guns in schools? Arm the teachers.
Guns in malls? Arm the shoppers.
Guns in bars? Arm the drunks.

 

branford

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4. The myth of the NRA far exceeds reality.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:17 PM
Sep 2015

First, for purposes of discussion, note that I'm not nor ever have been a member. I have also never owned a gun, although I legally entitled to do so here in NYC. I do support the right to keep and bear arms, and believe the Second Amendment must be interpreted as liberally as the rest of the Constitution lest other civil rights ultimately be jeopardized.

Instead of assuming what the NRA wants or implying what they intend, take the time to do research. I assure you that it's quite unlikely you'll suddenly develop a love of guns or Wayne LaPierre, and if you wish to oppose them politically, an informed "know you enemy" position is always most advantageous in debate.

The NRA generally believes that people have the right of armed self-defense, including teachers (under most circumstances) and mall patrons. They fully support proscription against firearm ownership of by felons convicted of violent crimes, the mentally ill adjudicated a danger to themselves and others, etc. The NRA was even instrumental in originally setting-up the NICS system. They do not support people using firearms while intoxicated.

While they believe a firearm is a tool, it is not a tool for every problem, and the choice to own or carry is entirely discretionary.

The prior contention that "NRA says more guns will solve any problem" is inaccurate, ludicrous, and as a matter of politics, makes those who offer such statements appear willfully ignorant and disingenuous. The current state of gun control in America prima facie evidence that such an attitude and strategy is self-defeating and ineffective, and definitely engenders the lack of trust that makes passage of any gun safety measure all but impossible on a national level.

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