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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:23 AM Sep 2015

There's growing speculation NASA is about to announce it has discovered flowing water on Mars

Source: Business Insider

NASA today made a very brief announcement that it’s preparing to share details of a “major science finding” early next week.

The space agency gave out a list of participants who will speak, and notice of a “brief question-and-answer session”, so there’s not a lot to go on.

But a couple of names on the list have journalists and bloggers speculating that NASA is about announce it has found evidence of water on Mars. Possibly even flowing water.

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But it was as an undergrad at the University of Arizona where Ohja made a lot of headlines in 2011. At 21, the science fiction fan and Nepal native co-authored a study that suggested liquid water flowed during the warmer months on Mars.

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/theres-growing-speculation-nasa-is-about-to-announce-it-discovered-flowing-water-on-mars-2015-9

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There's growing speculation NASA is about to announce it has discovered flowing water on Mars (Original Post) bananas Sep 2015 OP
NASA on eve of big announcement: 'Mars mystery solved' bananas Sep 2015 #1
I vote for the crab Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #3
I, for one, welcome our new facehugging crab overlords jberryhill Sep 2015 #5
The bush dynasty continues.... Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #8
just had to lead us there Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #9
In a recent Doctor Who episode someone mentions that movie.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #10
Hail... Eris? roscoeroscoe Sep 2015 #31
"the water could be entirely of atmospheric origin." bananas Sep 2015 #2
Firm behind Apple’s Spaceship HQ reveals plans for Nasa-backed 3D printed Mars habitat built by robo Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #4
Only bigger announcement could be microbial life. Warpy Sep 2015 #6
It's the height of arrogance RandySF Sep 2015 #7
Yes, but jberryhill Sep 2015 #11
Speaking of keys, I lost my keys for 14 months until 1 day I neverforget Sep 2015 #13
So would that be like NASA announcing that they discovered water on Earth? PersonNumber503602 Sep 2015 #38
Like announcing they found a warp in the space time neverforget Sep 2015 #40
There probably was microbial life in that chair until you vacuumed it away! randome Sep 2015 #39
Sucked into the black hole of the vacuum. neverforget Sep 2015 #41
Bowie knows. 6000eliot Sep 2015 #12
Thanks awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #22
I can GROK it, let's share water TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #14
.. AngryAmish Sep 2015 #15
Has Nestle bought the rights yet? GreatGazoo Sep 2015 #16
Or more accurately... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #17
not if Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #23
This isn't just a PR stunt for Matt Damon's new movie, right?... n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #18
. Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #24
I hope the little rover keeps on exploring! Sunlei Sep 2015 #19
There goes the neighborhood nt LiberalElite Sep 2015 #20
We're moving in! flamingdem Sep 2015 #21
Announcement is at 11:30 AM (ET) on Monday n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2015 #25
I love how they're making us wait. truthisfreedom Sep 2015 #26
It must be something pretty significant. christx30 Sep 2015 #35
"It's hard to imagine why such bullet-proof evidence was denied for such a long time, red dog 1 Sep 2015 #27
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Sep 2015 #28
mars will be our outpost restorefreedom Sep 2015 #29
Inhabitable Don't you mean UN-inhabitable? MADem Sep 2015 #32
it is getting hard to tell restorefreedom Sep 2015 #34
you cant even spell they wont be sending you! n/t. airplaneman Sep 2015 #36
Realistically, even a horribly polluted Earth will still be easier to live on than Mars NickB79 Sep 2015 #37
Buy beachfront property on Mars! bikebloke Sep 2015 #30
JUST IN TIME for THIS!!!!!!! MADem Sep 2015 #33
Will the announcement knock Trump off the front pages? Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #42
from asteroid and meteor strikes over the ages, some of those 'rocks' came from strikes on earth Sunlei Sep 2015 #43
NASA finds evidence of flowing water Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #44

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. NASA on eve of big announcement: 'Mars mystery solved'
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:28 AM
Sep 2015
http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/space/article/NASA-on-eve-of-big-announcement-Mars-mystery-6529507.php

NASA on eve of big announcement: 'Mars mystery solved'

Dylan Baddour, Houston Chronicle Updated 3:24 pm, Friday, September 25, 2015

NASA on Monday will announce "a major scientific finding" from Mars, the agency said Thursday in a vague press release.

"Mars mystery solved," the headline said.

No further details are available on the nature of the mystery. However, the lineup for the Monday press conference sports top agency authorities, including NASA director of planetary science Jim Green and lead scientist for the Mars Exploration Program Michael Meyer.

The other guests, relatively unknown researchers from American universities, led the science and tech publication Inverse to speculate.

"Our best guess: flowing water, and the potential for alien life," the publication wrote late Thursday.

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Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. In a recent Doctor Who episode someone mentions that movie....
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:30 AM
Sep 2015

The Doctor says, "You've got a horror movie called 'Alien'? Oh, that's REALLY offensive, it's no wonder you keep getting invaded."

bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. "the water could be entirely of atmospheric origin."
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:33 AM
Sep 2015
http://nasawatch.com/archives/2015/09/nasa-will-revea.html

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Keith's update: A NASAWatch reader artfully tipped us off to this session of the European Planetary Science Congress 2015 in France on Monday, 28 September - and one paper authored by several of the participants (McEwen and Ojha) in the NASA press conference:

17:00-17:15 EPSC2015-786 Recurring Slope Lineae on Mars: Atmospheric Origin?, AS McEwen, M Chojnacki, C Dundas, L Ojha, M Masse, E Schaefer, and C Leung

"Recurring Slope Lineae (RSL) are seasonal flows or seeps on warm Martian slopes. Observed gradual or incremental growth, fading, and yearly recurrence can be explained by seasonal seeps of water, which is probably salty. The origin of the water is not understood, but several observations indicate a key role for atmospheric processes. If sufficient deliquescent salts are present at these locations, the water could be entirely of atmospheric origin."


Warpy

(111,277 posts)
6. Only bigger announcement could be microbial life.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:50 AM
Sep 2015

I would be very surprised if Mars didn't have flowing water in deep lava tubes below the surface, if nowhere else.

I'd be equally surprised if it didn't sport microbes.

RandySF

(58,913 posts)
7. It's the height of arrogance
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:56 AM
Sep 2015

to believe that ours is the only life-sustaining planet in the universe. I would be surprised that there is water on Mars, but SOMETHING has NASA excited.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Yes, but
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:33 AM
Sep 2015

The likelihood of life existing elsewhere, and the likelihood of it being on any particular planet in our reach are two different things.

It's like trying to find your car keys. You know they are somewhere in the house, just not anywhere you are looking.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
13. Speaking of keys, I lost my keys for 14 months until 1 day I
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:45 AM
Sep 2015

moved the chair to vacuum and they fell out. I had moved that chair dozens of times too. Of course, I had scoured the house looking for them and had given up that they were gone.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
40. Like announcing they found a warp in the space time
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:46 PM
Sep 2015

continuum and my keys finally fell back after a bad trip.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. There probably was microbial life in that chair until you vacuumed it away!
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
17. Or more accurately...
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:04 AM
Sep 2015

... has Peter Brabeck-Letmathe stolen them yet. Just imagine; a whole NEW planet for Nestle to fuck over!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
35. It must be something pretty significant.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:20 PM
Sep 2015

It's not at 5pm on a Friday, when no one cares. It's right at the beginning of the week's news cycle. They want a LOT of press on this.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
27. "It's hard to imagine why such bullet-proof evidence was denied for such a long time,
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:08 PM
Sep 2015

and why those so vigorously denying it never did so by meeting the science, but merely by brushing it away.
Of course, now that it must be acknowledged by all that there is liquid water on the surface of Mars, this starts those denying the validity of the Mars Labeled Release (LR) data down the slippery slope leading to life."
Dr. Gil Levin, Chief Project Scientist on the Viking Labeled Release Experiment.
(This quote is from 2004)

(From "The Curious case of the NASA Crinoid Cover-Up" by Richard C. Hoagland)
http://www.enterprisemission.com/




"NASA Discovers an Underground Ocean on Jupiter's Largest Moon"
(March 12, 2015)

"NASA announced evidence on Thursday that Jupiter's largest moon, Ganymede, has a saltwater ocean under it's icy surface...The ocean seems to have more water than all the water on Earth's surface, according to new Hubble observations.
Scientists estimate the water is 60 miles thick, which is about 10 times deeper than Earth's oceans....But unlike our salty waters, Ganymede's ocean is buried under 95 miles of ice."
Read more:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/theres-an-underground-ocean-on-jupiters-largest-moon/





"Will Ocean Discovery on Enceladus Spur Life-Hunting Missions to Icy Moons of Saturn, Jupiter?"
(Apriil 4, 2014)

"Astronomers are hoping that the existence of a sub-surface ocean on Saturn's icy moon Enceladus will build momentum for life-hunting missions to the outer solar system.
Researchers announced their discovery of the deep watery ocean on Thursday (4/3/2014) in the journal Science, confirming suspicions by many scientists since 2005, when NASA's Cassini spacecraft spied geysers of ice and water vapor erupting from Enceladus' south pole.
The discovery vaults Enceladus into the top tier of life-hosting candidates along with Europa, an ice-sheathed moon of Jupiter that also hosts a subterranean ocean."
Read more:
http://www.space.com/25348-enceladus-ocean-europa-life-hunting-missions.html



Since water and water ice has now been proven to exist on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn, discovery of liquid water on Mars would not surprise me.

What WOULD surprise me would be NASA admitting that it has been covering-up evidence proving that the so-called "Face on Mars" is real.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
29. mars will be our outpost
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

after earth becomes uninhabitable.

edit for spelling

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Inhabitable Don't you mean UN-inhabitable?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:16 PM
Sep 2015

I realize there's a lot of shit in the air, and crap in the water, on the big blue marble, but it's still inhabitable, more or less.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
37. Realistically, even a horribly polluted Earth will still be easier to live on than Mars
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:25 PM
Sep 2015

Any colonies we could build on Mars, we could build faster, larger and cheaper here on Earth.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. from asteroid and meteor strikes over the ages, some of those 'rocks' came from strikes on earth
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:14 AM
Sep 2015

and some of our super volcanos. and 'snowballs' in space.

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