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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:32 PM Oct 2015

Dem Infighting Erupts On Eve Of First Presidential Debate

Source: The Hill

October 13, 2015, 03:24 pm
By Jesse Byrnes

Democrats are battling one another off stage ahead of the party’s first debate, with a prominent lawmaker engaged in a fierce war of words with the party chairman.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), is all but calling DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz a liar as the two publicly battle over whether Gabbard was disinvited from Tuesday night’s debate.

Gabbard stood by her claims in a string of interviews Monday night and Tuesday, arguing she was being punished for vocally criticizing her party for only holding six debates.

“It's not surprising to me that she is saying things that aren't true,” she said of her House colleague Wasserman Schultz during an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/256776-dem-infighting-erupts-on-eve-of-debate

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Dem Infighting Erupts On Eve Of First Presidential Debate (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
Wasserman has to go Geronimoe Oct 2015 #1
and those are some of her better qualities nt FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #8
Stay classy shenmue Oct 2015 #14
Do "we" as democrats have any say at all? Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #15
No, because we should sit down and shut up davidpdx Oct 2015 #28
And you didn't enev need the sarcasm thingy! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #30
Members of the Democratic Party get to decide their leaders, don't they? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #18
Actually, re: debates, apparently she IS the queen with absolute power thesquanderer Oct 2015 #20
Apparently, and fortunately, rumors and speculation are still not facts. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #21
Well there's also this... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #22
I repeat my first comment. And if this is "infighting" what is the mess going on in the enemy camp? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #23
More detail here thesquanderer Oct 2015 #32
K&R - It's a fight that needs to happen. DWS should not be able to hobble the Dem's visibility 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2
The DNC chair shouldn't have "absolute power". Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #16
I'm waiting for the standard argument that it will hurt Hillary Clinton's chance of winning the davidpdx Oct 2015 #29
dupe 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2
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Three dupe posts? peacebird Oct 2015 #12
Yah, it was weird. I pushed "Post My Reply" several times 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #13
Unfortunately, I hear ya, bro. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #17
yes, the dnc's toxic hopemountain Oct 2015 #9
I read that as "inbreeding" (though I guess we can go with "party inbreeding means infighting") MisterP Oct 2015 #10
Professionalism. retrowire Oct 2015 #11
DWS must go. nt silvershadow Oct 2015 #19
Why has it take so long? She is tearing this Party apart, losing elections, lost the House and sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #25
Dem infighting erupted ejbr Oct 2015 #24
Oh dear. Are the Democrats going to show how immature they can be as well? Kablooie Oct 2015 #26
Debbie Weasleword-Shit nt mhatrw Oct 2015 #27
sounds like a R making a tempest in a teapot to "equalize" D internal strife = Repuke split wordpix Oct 2015 #31

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. Members of the Democratic Party get to decide their leaders, don't they?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:24 PM
Oct 2015

The Chairwoman has done a fine job, but that she is not agreeing with more debates is irrelevant as she is not the Queen with absolute power, as far as I am aware of Democratic Party rules for election and membership.

There is a reason it is called a "political party"....it has rules those not in political parties may not fully understand, or at all.

thesquanderer

(11,995 posts)
20. Actually, re: debates, apparently she IS the queen with absolute power
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:37 PM
Oct 2015

from http://www.salon.com/2015/10/12/the_dnc_screwed_hillary_now_get_ready_for_a_bernie_sanders_earthquake/

The phrase ‘Democratic National Committee’ is imprecise. When DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz announced the schedule last August she didn’t say who made the decision or how. Nor did anyone ask. It seems like an awfully closed system for an outfit with the word ‘democratic’ right there in its name. I wondered how the party picked it. Did its national committee hold a meeting? If so, was it public? Was there a notice, agenda, or minutes? Was there even a vote?

On Thursday I spoke to the DNC communications director, a nice man named Luis Miranda. After a few minutes of polite evasions I had my answers: no, no, no, no, no and no. From what I could glean, staff made recommendations to Schultz and she then made the call all on her own. It isn’t clear that party rules authorize her to do so. What is clear is that they shouldn’t. Miranda told me the party consults with all the candidates. I don’t doubt him, but the consultations don’t appear to mean much, in that four of the five candidates wanted more debates.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. I repeat my first comment. And if this is "infighting" what is the mess going on in the enemy camp?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:54 PM
Oct 2015

Much ado about nothing in the Democratic Party camp.....a tussle over internal party rules is just a family dispute.....as political families sometimes have and outsiders do not understand.

thesquanderer

(11,995 posts)
32. More detail here
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupts-at-the-democratic-national-committee

According to several people with front-row seats for the hatching of the plan, the chairwoman made her decision unilaterally, without consulting or even telling the rest of the committee’s high command, including her vice chairs, in advance.

More detail in the article.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. K&R - It's a fight that needs to happen. DWS should not be able to hobble the Dem's visibility
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:41 PM
Oct 2015

with just a handful of debates, while GOP enjoys more visibility with more debates,
debates that are scheduled to maximize viewers, not minimize them.

It's an injustice to the party, and to all voters, yet she has steadfastly refused to
listen to the Democratic base, so screw her.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I'm waiting for the standard argument that it will hurt Hillary Clinton's chance of winning the
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:11 AM
Oct 2015

General Election.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
13. Yah, it was weird. I pushed "Post My Reply" several times
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:12 PM
Oct 2015

because my router (with Comcast, of course) kept stalling and not completely loading the post.

Then when the post finally did go through. it was there like 6 times in a row. I was horrified (mildly)
as that has never happened to me before, generally DU catches it and only posts once.



hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
9. yes, the dnc's toxic
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

manipulations erupting with all of the pressure before the debate. that's how toxins erupt - under pressure.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
25. Why has it take so long? She is tearing this Party apart, losing elections, lost the House and
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

Senate???

WHO is she working for? And where is the rest of the Party Leadership??

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
31. sounds like a R making a tempest in a teapot to "equalize" D internal strife = Repuke split
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:08 AM
Oct 2015

no way, we are not completely divided into separate camps. Big deal if we have minor issues

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