Bill Clinton Rallies Iowa for Hillary Clinton as ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

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Source: nytimes

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8:25 pm ET By Maggie Haberman


DES MOINES — Appearing at his first rally of the campaign on behalf of his wife, Bill Clinton exhorted the crowd to rise above the deeply partisan tone of this election cycle and said that Hillary Rodham Clinton had shown voters her truest self in recent weeks.

“She’s still got the best friends that she had in grade school,” said Mr. Clinton, whose wife has seen a decrease in the number of voters who view her as “honest and trustworthy” in polls after a summer spent fending off questions about her use of a private email server while she was the secretary of state.

Someone who can make that boast about their friends is by “definition a trustworthy, reliable good person unless they had a toy theft gang going” as a child, Mr. Clinton said.

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But over the past few weeks of the campaign the country has finally gotten to see the person he met decades ago, Mr. Clinton said.

“That’s the person I got to see again, without all those barnacles, in the debate and in those 11 hours of testimony,” said Mr. Clinton, referring to her marathon testimony before the House committee investigating the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya.

Earlier, Mr. Clinton said that “the American people in the last six weeks have learned a lot about Hillary — ............. They also learned from Saturday Night Live that she’s “a pretty good bartender, too.”............

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/24/bill-clinton-rallies-iowa-for-hillary-clinton-as-honest-and-trustworthy/

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Bill Clinton at a campaign rally for his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, on Saturday in Des Moines.Credit Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

[Android3.14]

1. Uh-huh. Sure

Has she recently "evolved" this honesty and trustworthiness?

Sort of depends on your definition of "is", right Bill?

[HassleCat]

2. Well...

Do people perceive Bill Clinton as honest and trustworthy? He's still popular, but I'm not sure if people accept his veracity or not. He did cheat on his wife and lie about it, and now he's telling us his wife, the one on whom he cheated, is honest and trustworthy. I'm not sure that works very well, but maybe it doesn't matter one way or the other.

[juajen]

3. Line up all the men in this country

Now, ask the ones who have been faithful to their wives or girlfriends to step back. Don't laugh when the back row is empty. Not too different when its the girls turns. We are all human, and succumb to temptation in huge numbers.

[Live and Learn]

5. Not true in my experience for either sex. nt

[840high]

6. Simply not true. Try again to excuse Bill's behavior.

[zentrum]

10. My lack of trust in him

….has nothing to do with fidelity to his marriage. That's their business.

The problem with the Lewinsky matter was and always will be his willingness to risk his entire Democratic agenda and us and the 2000 elections for Democrats because he could only be trusted as far as the next opportunity to have a bj.

It doesn't matter what other men do—even powerful men and other politicians—it's that he was the President. He risked us. He broke the covenant he had with everyone in the country to not jeopardize the policies he stood for.

He couldn't wait two years until Gore was President by a landslide? It's pathetically insincere.

[haikugal]

55. ^^^^THIS^^^^

This was just outrageous...he, they, did this and all we could do was groan. How crass.

Thanks for this post..

[Nedsdag]

59. Thank you!

I could not have said it any better.

It was all about Bill. Nothing else mattered.

[AlbertCat]

15. Line up all the men in this country....

..... now line up the ones who "when to court" for it AND are telling us about honesty and trustworthiness....

[sarge43]

18. Not true

There are people who keep their promises.

[Divernan]

21. Line up all the presidents who lied under oath & were impeached.

Line up all the first ladies who lied about sniper fire . . . .

Line up all the first ladies who insisted for two years they could not locate subpoenaed documents in their possession (HRC's billing records working on Whitewater matters for the Rose Law Firm which were then miraculously "found" on a table by the door of her office in the family quarters of the White House).

Then there's this: PBS film eyes Clinton

When discussing the Clintons’ years in Arkansas, narrator Campbell Scott said, “Hillary had to deal with Bill’s constant womanizing.”

“You’ve got to understand, at one time, there [were] at least 25 women per day coming through there trying to find him,” said Paul Fray, Clinton’s campaign manager during his unsuccessful congressional run in 1974. “I’d tell them, 'He’s on the road, get out the door.' But, Lord, it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.”

“He draws women in, and they are literally mesmerized by this man,” said Marla Crider, who was a congressional campaign aide to Clinton. “It was absolutely like fly on honey. And he needed that. He needed that kind of adoration.”

“It’s almost as though there was a part of Bill Clinton that he had no control over,” said William Chafe, a history professor at Duke University. “That whenever it had the opportunity to come out, it was going to come out and with no forethought, with no calculation, with no sense of the consequences; it was simply going to happen. And that’s terrifying.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/01/pbs-docu-eyes-clinton-womanizing-071382#ixzz3pa5lvslq

[cpompilo]

56. Ok, Hillarians now, place your fingers in your ears and repeat after me, "La-La-La-La"

[karynnj]

47. That says more of the people you know - if there are really none you think were faithful

I know many of both sex who have been faithful.

[HassleCat]

60. Speak for yourself

We are all human, and we are all tempted, but not all of us succumb.

[INdemo]

7. Most women I believe would have thrown his ass out after his encounter

with Monica but because Hillary, even then had her eyes on being the first women President stuck around for her chance at winning her crown.

[murielm99]

12. I know many women who have stayed with their husbands

who have strayed. Some of them have gone to counseling and ended up with stronger marriages.

I am sorry your friends are so unforgiving. You must be a lonely bunch, looking for perfection when you are clearly not perfect yourselves.

[Divernan]

23. Were those women publicly and repeatedly humiliated and betrayed?

Bill Clinton was a serial adulterer.

Sure, I know women who choose to look the other way, but they had the luxury of that option because their husbands/partners had the class to keep their infidelities on the down low - and I can understand it if wives traded financial security for self respect, and/or had so little sense of self-worth and ability to make a decent living on their own that they hung onto their marriage/meal ticket. And I do know one couple where the wife raised holy hell, threatened to bankrupt hubby in the divorce and they got counseling and the marriage seems to have survived without any further infidelities on his part.

But here we have Hillary, with her Ivy law degree. Bill joked she was making more money than he was when she was a partner in the Rose law firm and he was governor. She's extremely bright and could have made a very lucrative living on her own. Perhaps she'd even have found a second husband who would not treat her so shabbily. Forgive the guy once? Fine. But repeatedly? Her choice, but don't give me any garbage that she's a feminist.


Then there's this: PBS film eyes Clinton

When discussing the Clintons’ years in Arkansas, narrator Campbell Scott said, “Hillary had to deal with Bill’s constant womanizing.”

“You’ve got to understand, at one time, there at least 25 women per day coming through there trying to find him,” said Paul Fray, Clinton’s campaign manager during his unsuccessful congressional run in 1974. “I’d tell them, 'He’s on the road, get out the door.' But, Lord, it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.”

“He draws women in, and they are literally mesmerized by this man,” said Marla Crider, who was a congressional campaign aide to Clinton. “It was absolutely like fly on honey. And he needed that. He needed that kind of adoration.”

“It’s almost as though there was a part of Bill Clinton that he had no control over,” said William Chafe, a history professor at Duke University. “That whenever it had the opportunity to come out, it was going to come out and with no forethought, with no calculation, with no sense of the consequences; it was simply going to happen. And that’s terrifying.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/01/pbs-docu-eyes-clinton-womanizing-071382#ixzz3pa5lvslq

[murielm99]

48. Yes, actually,

I live in a small town and I do know women who have been through that. I know some who choose to stay with their husbands after multiple infidelities. Don't you dare try to lecture me about what I know or don't know.

I know that Bill Clinton has been through counseling for his addiction.

I know that you know nothing about their marriage. Neither do I.

I also know that this is a Democratic website. One would never know that from the venom that shows up here about the Clintons.

I am supporting Hillary. You don't trust her? I don't trust you, a person doing everything to undermine our front runner and best chance to keep the White House and Supreme Court.

[sufrommich]

28. Seriously? You've never known a couple who survived infidelity?

My best friend stayed with her husband after he had an affair,they went though marriage counseling and saved their marriage,they had 2 small kids at the time,they've been married over 40 years now. This crap that "women are weak" if they don't immediately leave their cheating husbands is bullshit,and it's insulting to every married person who has survived infidelity and moved on.

[Divernan]

34. A one-time infidelity is far different from a serial adulterer

But you know that, don't you?

[sufrommich]

37. I know nothing about their marriage other than they're still

together,and neither do you.

[pocoloco]

45. LOL! Google is your friend!!

Do a search for Bill's Bimbos!!

[Live and Learn]

4. LOL When did Bill become a comedian?

That was pretty funny.

[SmittynMo]

53. Right after his famous BJ

[Thespian2]

8. Bubba Bill, as an honest, trustworthy guy,

who rubs shoulders with his fellow 1%ers, lives the good life, sucks up a few hundred thousand corporate dollars here, a few hundred thousand corporate dollars there...

Surely, he can easily spot those honest and trustworthy traits in others...and he had such great ideas, killing Glass-Steagall...forcing NAFTA through Congress...

[billhicks76]

9. LMFAO

[obnoxiousdrunk]

11. Kick.

[bigwillq]

13. I don't trust the Clinton family.

But I trust very few politicians.

[AlbertCat]

14. Bill Clinton Rallies Iowa for Hillary Clinton as ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

Well, he'd certainly recognize such a thing as ‘Honest and Trustworthy’!

[mpcamb]

44. ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

Kinda sounds like a Fox News slogan.

And, as someone says in the thread, "..and I'm trying real hard to like Hillary."

[AzDar]

16. Thanks for the laugh....

[Geronimoe]

17. Bill is pimping a fake persona

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Whilst Bernie is talking his long held policies.

Hillary doesn't poll well on honesty and trustworthiness. So at least Bill has identified her weakness.

On the one hand they promote her decades in DC and on the other they say she's evoled over the past few weeks.

[SmittynMo]

19. OMG, this is too funny

1. Someone who can make that boast about their friends is by “definition a trustworthy, reliable good person?
Sure, that's one definition of trustworthy. But what about all the bullshit surrounding her in the past 40 years? Ever wonder why
people are questioning her trustworthiness now?

2. They also learned from Saturday Night Live that she’s “a pretty good bartender, too. That's also too funny. She's on a controlled
set with scripted lines. I guess that means she has a sense of humor? What's the point here?


Do not get me wrong, I like Hilliary, but pushing this agenda is no way to get her elected. It's all fluff and bullshit.

[nolabels]

61. Two liars walking down the street, each asking the other who can tell the biggest whopper........

and get away with it unscathed. Somehow it seems like a cruel joke for all the others the joke is being perpetuated on. Then i realized that this how US politics have been run for the last fifty-five years

[DCBob]

20. Bill is still a huge asset. Good to see him out there.

It will be interesting to see how he plays the role of First Gentlemen once Hillary wins this thing.

[djean111]

26. I would not trust him the least little bit.

It is the serial thing that really bothers me.
Used to be that he was the only politician I would watch, giving a speech. Now, I just can't do it.

[DCBob]

27. That's you but there are millions of voters out there who feel quite the opposite of that.

He's a huge asset and he could be a big factor in the general.

[djean111]

30. Oh, I know. But I think it quite presumptuous for anyone to think they speak for millions of voters

and not just for themselves. The GOP would sure be playing that up. Lots of self-inflicted baggage there. And if Bill makes himself part of the campaign, part of the narrative, he is fair game.

[DCBob]

32. No doubt they will go after Bill but we have seen this movie before.

I suspect most voters wont care. That was ancient history and the country has changed immensely since then.

[djean111]

36. Didn't Hillary lose, in the last movie?

Ancient history does not keep people from bringing up stuff about Bernie.
That's politics!

[DCBob]

38. Good point..

but that movie included the most charismatic inspiring candidate in my lifetime and that's a long time!

[Fred Sanders]

43. Charisma still counts, in polling and in real voting. No point denying it, but some still do.

In the "charisma" category Obama is on another planet. Only a large wing of the Fox nursing home industry of old white males seem to not be charmed much....but that is not their only problem.

Between Sanders and the duo of Clinton and Clinton....I have laid my bets!

[Laser102]

49. My sister, a virulent anti all things political, loves Bill.

She said people were employed in good paying jobs, people were buying homes and improving their lot in life. There were jobs a plenty. Obamas done an incredible job with the horrors he walked into. Hillary will continue his good work.

[Eugene]

22. That's really funny.

My irony meter just got stuck in the red zone.
I'll have to get a new one.

...and I'm trying real hard to like Hillary.

[Divernan]

24. He couldn't resist throwing in the passive-agressive "barnacles" reference.

Saying after all their years together, he liked seeing her without the barnacles?

But over the past few weeks of the campaign the country has finally gotten to see the person he met decades ago, Mr. Clinton said.

“That’s the person I got to see again, without all those barnacles,

Only Shakespeare could do justice to the tragedy of their marriage.

[cpompilo]

57. I don't know... reminded me of the old diddy,"Barnacle Bill The Sailor"!

Bill had better watch out with that one!

[Divernan]

25. Plus Bill's little email reference gaffe.

He said that he had received gushing emails from their friends praising her testimony. He wrote back, “I think I’ll vote for her.”

An aide to Mr. Clinton later said he misspoke, and had meant to say text, not email. Mr. Clinton’s aides have long said that he does not use email.

[KingCharlemagne]

33. So long as you're not Honduran, Libyan or Iraqi - nt

[mmonk]

35. Depends on what the meaning of is "is".

[Joe Turner]

39. A long and chronicled history of deceit, scandal, unaccountability, evocation

makes that a laughable statement. Then again do Bill or Hillary Clinton really understand the terms Honest and Trustworthy?

[Fred Sanders]

41. Are you on the right site? Personality attacks are in the other wing. Take a sharp right at the exit

[Joe Turner]

42. Yeah I am

Hillary's past history has been discussed at length on DU and will continue to be discussed. Your attempts at censorship need to take an exit.

[leftofcool]

52. Actually they won't be

As soon as she wins the primary, well, you have read the TOS, yes?

[Joe Turner]

58. Not exactly a very convincing way of defending your candidate

Truth is difficult to suppress.

[Fred Sanders]

40. Looks like Bill is being looked at as a target of ranting and empty machinations now that his

spouse has coated herself in a well earned protective layer of Teflon from the RW smears and personality attacks.

Bill can handle it just as well.

[Francois9]

46. Bill's "testimony" is worthless.

He just wants to get back in the White House again.

[ffr]

50. Watched that rally from start to finish. The real deal.

Learned much more about Hillary and her dedication to others. She have our votes and backing for as long as she's a candidate or incumbent.

Katy was awesome too, BTW.

[Purveyor]

51. ..

[Thinkingabout]

54. Another op about the spouse, is it time to start attacking the spouses?

Except for the fact of RW posters trying to continue their cognitive dissonance talking points I dont see where attacking Bill is going to help get Sanders any votes.

I dont like the article Sanders published several years ago about women's fantasies, do we need this brought up over and over?

[demigoddess]

62. most of the commenters here sound like republicans

or people who swallowed their propaganda.