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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:27 PM Nov 2015

New report reveals MSF staff's fruitless calls for help as hospital came under fire

Source: Sune Engel Rasmussen 11-5-15 The Guardian

Internal report offers details of medical staff's frantic efforts to alert Kabul and Washington, only to receive a text 30 minutes later: "I'm sorry to hear that"

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/05/msf-hospital-bombing-afghanistan-no-armed-men-taliban

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New report reveals MSF staff's fruitless calls for help as hospital came under fire (Original Post) bobthedrummer Nov 2015 OP
Thats right, they made several calls over 30 minutes and no one responded. Sunlei Nov 2015 #1
That's so harsh. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #2
whats harsh? while under attack Doctors without Borders made many calls and no one answered. Sunlei Nov 2015 #7
My sarcastic comment about harshness OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #9
yes, finally had a day off. I'm no detractor of that attack on Doctors without Borders. I read thei Sunlei Nov 2015 #11
Replaced? More like imprisoned. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #4
THIS^^^^ valerief Nov 2015 #10
If the rule of law being followed, but it vanished many years ago, didn't it, geek tragedy? bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #16
The US official who okay'd that strike belongs in a prison cell. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #3
Pentagon MIA on Afghan Doctors Without Borders Hospital Attack (Nancy A. Youssef and Shane Harris bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #5
Far beyond sad, sad account of this murderous attack. My god. Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #6
US tank enters ruined Afghan hospital putting "war crime" evidence at risk (Tom McCarthy 10-15-15 bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #8
It was completely and cold-bloodedly intentional Demeter Nov 2015 #12
I am looking forward to the Republican Congressional investigation Midnight Writer Nov 2015 #13
Waiting ... Delphinus Nov 2015 #17
This looks like one of those war crimes where nobody will be charged. n/t Little Tich Nov 2015 #14
Below is the Doctors Without Borders website and a kick for keeping this US war crime in mind. bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #15
Veterans Day kick bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #18
US Journalists Who Instantly Exonerated Their Government Of The Kunduz Hospital Attack Declaring It bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #19
Two Versions of the US Destruction of a Hospital in Afghanistan (Laura Gottesdiener 11-16-15 Tom Dis bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #20
"More Questions Than Answers": MSF Not Buying Pentagon Probe into Hospital Attack (Lauren McCauley bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #21
Kunduz hospital attack: US forces did not act on MSF warning for 17 min (David Smith 11-25-15 The bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #22
Kick n/t bobthedrummer Nov 2015 #23
Kick for background on LBN of new death toll of 42 n/t bobthedrummer Dec 2015 #24

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. Thats right, they made several calls over 30 minutes and no one responded.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nov 2015

That new USA Commander who approved that strike should be replaced.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. whats harsh? while under attack Doctors without Borders made many calls and no one answered.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:13 PM
Nov 2015

The strikes went on for 30 minuets.

A major screw up by whoever was in charge of that specific attack our General called a "Mistake". They have GPS, they call in strikes by GPS loc- they know exactly where that Ds without borders field hospital is.

Unlike Russia, who have made several attacks right on manyDoctors without Borders field clinics, we shouldn't make 'mistakes' like that.

Sure we're paying Doctors without Borders $$ and paying money for the people killed, that is not enough.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
9. My sarcastic comment about harshness
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:33 PM
Nov 2015

was a response to your comment the US commander be replaced.

He should be prosecuted for war crimes.

Is U.S. bombing of Afghan hospital a war crime?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/asia/kunduz-hospital-bombing-war-crime/index.html

~snip~

In general terms, a war crime may be committed when there is an attack on a civilian population during an armed conflict, Kay says.

There is an extensive body of law that regulates military action during conflict.

The aim, says Dworkin, is to draw a balance between what armed forces are justified to do out of military necessity -- which includes causing collateral damage to civilians -- and the principles of humanity.

"Hospitals enjoy a special protected status under international humanitarian law. So, to attack a hospital or medical facility, whether it is a civilian or military installation, is a crime," says Kay.


Between trumpeting the "firsts" of the TPP and detracting from US war crimes, you've been very busy today.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. yes, finally had a day off. I'm no detractor of that attack on Doctors without Borders. I read thei
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:20 PM
Nov 2015

I read their press releases and they're one of the charities I've supported for many years. Sure its a war crime, I don't believe the Military Leader in charge who said "sorry,was a 'mistake'"

Even if it was some kind of dumb mistake because he is new in that position, it was an unforgivable mistake. He should lose his command immediately and put in someone else in who can do a better job.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
5. Pentagon MIA on Afghan Doctors Without Borders Hospital Attack (Nancy A. Youssef and Shane Harris
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:09 PM
Nov 2015

November 3, 2015 The Daily Beast)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/03/pentagon-mia-on-afghan-doctors-without-borders-hospital-attack.html

"I'm sorry to hear that"...
Definitely a war crime and cover-up, plus an "information operation" here in the USA.

Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
6. Far beyond sad, sad account of this murderous attack. My god.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:11 PM
Nov 2015

Simply horrific, bloodthirsty, sadistic action where you'd least expect it.

NOT #1 at all.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
8. US tank enters ruined Afghan hospital putting "war crime" evidence at risk (Tom McCarthy 10-15-15
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/us-tank-enters-ruined-afghan-hospital-putting-war-evidence-at-risk

"Sorry" children burning to death in hospital beds under fire from an AC130...


 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
12. It was completely and cold-bloodedly intentional
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:09 PM
Nov 2015

You see, Doctors Without Borders was dissing the TPP, TTiP, and other corporate giveaways that would ensure people could not afford medicine. So, they had to be taught a lesson. Plus, they were making US war policy look bad, sitting there patching up our victims...

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
19. US Journalists Who Instantly Exonerated Their Government Of The Kunduz Hospital Attack Declaring It
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

An "Accident" (Glenn Greenwald 11-6-15 The Intercept)
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/06/u-s-journalists-who-instantly-exonerated-their-government-of-the-kunduz-hospital-attack-declaring-it-an-accident

"Journalists", more likely operatives of Information Operations/IO, don't you think???

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
22. Kunduz hospital attack: US forces did not act on MSF warning for 17 min (David Smith 11-25-15 The
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:12 PM
Nov 2015

Guardian)

"US commander in Afghanistan blames human error and equipment failure for bombing that killed 30 people"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/25/medecins-sans-frontieres-kunduz-hospital-attack-us-military-17-minutes-to-act

Who else is fed-up with the denials and LIES about war crimes??? Every hour a US veteran commits suicide.
Woe.

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