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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:34 AM Nov 2015

Putin Associate Found Dead in DC Hotel

Source: ABC News

prominent Russian millionaire with high-level ties to the Kremlin has been found dead inside a Washington hotel, a Russian official and a senior U.S. official told ABC News.

Mikhail Lesin, the former head of media affairs for the Russian government who's been accused of curtailing the country’s press freedoms, had been staying at Hotel Dupont when he was found Thursday, according to officials.

It's unclear why the long-time adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin was in Washington, but the Metropolitan Police Department is now investigating his death. On Thursday, U.S. authorities notified the Russian embassy in Washington that one of its citizens had died, and Russian officials are now working with American authorities to determine the circumstances of the death, the embassy told ABC News in a statement.

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Lesin is credited with creating Russia Today, the English-language news network backed by the Russian government. Now known as RT, the network “provides an alternative perspective on major global events, and acquaints an international audience with the Russian viewpoint,” according to its website.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/putin-associate-found-dead-dc-hotel/story?id=35024556

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Putin Associate Found Dead in DC Hotel (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 OP
Waitin' in the lobby like... alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #1
+1 Brickbat Nov 2015 #33
Well, he was doing Putin's bidding, so paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #2
Heart attack...so they say... MADem Nov 2015 #3
He doesn't look so healthy in that picture Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #15
And...the pic is six years old! MADem Nov 2015 #17
Lol Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #18
Huh. Interesting, interesting...indeed. eom Purveyor Nov 2015 #4
Credited with creating the RT network dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #5
Hartmann will never regain my custom after years of loyal listening. He does not walk the walk. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #8
Curious do you have a link to one "anti gay media group" report from RT Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #9
It's kind of a fair point, since RT is gov't owned and under the thumb of Putin, MADem Nov 2015 #19
Thanks for the cites. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #22
Are we playing "compare and contrast" here? MADem Nov 2015 #25
I love Thom Hartmann dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #21
Sounds like a script for a old cold war movie. Ford_Prefect Nov 2015 #6
Sounds like The Black List or Scandal to me. Greybnk48 Nov 2015 #7
A lot of healthy people around Putin end up dead. tabasco Nov 2015 #10
RT, founded by a Putin critic Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #12
How did you come to the conclusion that the dead person was a Putin critc? tabasco Nov 2015 #16
Live long and prosper Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #23
Slow that roll, now--when it was founded, though, he and Putin were buddies. MADem Nov 2015 #26
poisoned like others, perchance? wordpix Nov 2015 #11
50k volt over the counter tazer to the heart area would create quite a heart stopping attack. Sunlei Nov 2015 #14
didn't he just finish help change the media 'system' in russia to govenment control? Sunlei Nov 2015 #13
This thread reminds me of the paranoia around Vince Foster. newthinking Nov 2015 #20
MAJOR UPDATE to this story--rumor at this stage, but you never know!! MADem Nov 2015 #24
Interesting twist thanks MADem...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #28
You call this an "update"? I call it a tabloid smirking at RT conspiracy theories uhnope Nov 2015 #29
In Russia, what people BELIEVE is as significant as what might or might not MADem Nov 2015 #31
Haha! This could be a James Bond script! elias49 Nov 2015 #32
I wonder if he was on Raymond Reddington's list? ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #27
Putin's associates and enemies have a high mortality rate. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #30

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Heart attack...so they say...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:41 AM
Nov 2015


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/07/us-people-mikhaillesin-idUSKCN0SW02E20151107

ABC quoted a Russian and a U.S. official as saying Lesin was found dead inside a hotel room in Washington's Dupont Circle area on Thursday.

Russia Today (RT) quoted family members as saying Lesin died of a heart attack on Wednesday.

RT quoted TASS as saying police had found no signs of foul play but that a formal investigation into his death had been launched.

A representative for Washington police was not immediately available to comment.

ABC said Lesin, who was Russia's Minister of Press from 1999 to 2004, has been accused of censoring Russia's independent media. He became head of Gazprom-Media Holding in 2013 but resigned the following year.



Putin's puppet Medvedev fired him in 2009....
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/kremlin-media-adviser-lesin-sacked/389992.html

President Dmitry Medvedev has dismissed influential Kremlin media adviser Mikhail Lesin for breaching government rules, the first such sacking during his presidency, local media reported Thursday.

The Kremlin announced the departure of Lesin — who founded Video International, the country’s main television advertising company, in 1990, and later held senior posts in news, television and the government — on Tuesday in a terse statement, saying Lesin left “at his own request.”

“At the present, I’m bound by certain obligations, according to which I cannot comment on the reasons for my resignation,” Lesin told Interfax on Wednesday evening. “And I don’t have the moral right to break those obligations.”

But Interfax, citing a Kremlin source, reported that Lesin was sacked for using “his position to resolve questions not related to his official duties.” He said Lesin, 51, had breached discipline and rules on state service.

Newspapers also ran stories Thursday that said Lesin, who looked after media, information technology and intellectual property issues in the Kremlin administration, was fired for conflicts of interest with his own businesses. Kommersant reported that he could have been a driving force in the National Media Group’s creation of NMG-TV, a holding containing St. Petersburg’s Channel 5 and Ren-TV.

A Kremlin spokesman refused to comment on the reports. Kommersant said such harsh comments have rarely been made by senior Kremlin officials without the president’s permission.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
15. He doesn't look so healthy in that picture
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:43 AM
Nov 2015

It adds some context.

Thanks Madem.

As always

BTW just noticed that tattoo some gangsta code eh?

Peace!

JM

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. And...the pic is six years old!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

I wondered if he hadn't been in the Once Mighty Soviet Navy--that looks like an anchor to me! Given his career has been in media, he might have been the bum in charge of propaganda on a Soviet vessel (or should I say "wessel" like Chekov on Star Trek?)!

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
5. Credited with creating the RT network
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:25 AM
Nov 2015

Interesting.

About all I watch on there is Thom Hartmann, grateful to the for showing that though. I would never trust RT on foreign policy, too much Putin influence. Hartmann says they let him do what he wants, and I believe him.

Hopefully we'll find out what happened to this guy, and why.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Hartmann will never regain my custom after years of loyal listening. He does not walk the walk.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:15 AM
Nov 2015

He made that deal with RT just to increase his profits, Thom is a wealthy man who has been wealthy since the 1980s. To get even more wealth he got cheap studio space from anti gay media group. That's his choice, but that choice was the last ethical straw for me.
Thom is a big Christian, and I want him to know I would never rent studio space from a group that maligned his people. Never. Why? The Sermon on the Mount, even though I am not the one claiming to be a 'person of faith' as Thom does. Do unto others. So that's my choice. Thom's is different.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. It's kind of a fair point, since RT is gov't owned and under the thumb of Putin,
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

to the extent that many of their English speaking correspondents objected to the propagandizing. And Putin's regime is anti-gay....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

RT, originally Russia Today, is a Russian state-funded television network which runs cable and satellite television channels, as well as Internet content directed to audiences outside the Russian Federation. RT International, which is based in Moscow, presents around-the-clock news bulletins, documentaries, talk shows, and debates, as well as sports news and cultural programmes about Russia.[4] RT operates as a multilingual service with channels in three languages: the original English language channel was launched in 2005, followed by the Arabic language channel in 2007 and the Spanish language channel in 2009. RT America (since 2010),[5] and RT UK (since 2014) offer some locally based content for those countries.
RT is a brand of "TV-Novosti", an "autonomous non-profit organization", founded by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti on April 6, 2005.[1][6] During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian Government headed by Vladimir Putin included ANO "TV-Novosti" in the list of core organisations of strategic importance of Russia.[7][8][9]
RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[10][11][12] and its foreign policy[10][11][13][14] by former Russian officials[15] and by news reporters,[16] including former RT reporters.[17][18][19] It has also been accused of spreading disinformation.[20][21][22] The United Kingdom media regulator Ofcom has threatened RT with sanctions because of repeated violations of its rules on impartiality.[23] The network states that it offers a "Russian perspective" on global events.[24]



This is a couple of years old but it relates to the question you asked--there are video examples at the link:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/08/21/2505051/5-ways-russia-today-anti-gay/


5 Ways ‘Russia Today’ Attempts To Justify The Country’s Law Banning ‘Gay Propaganda’


Reporter James Kirchick, a supposed “leading voice on gay politics,” was kicked off Russia Today Wednesday after using his time to condemn both Russia’s law banning “gay propaganda” and the television network for not properly reporting on it. The other panelists countered that the network has discussed the law, which is true, but much of the coverage has been used to justify it. Here are five tactics the network has used to defend the “gay propaganda” law:
Russia’s Anti-Gay Laws Aren’t As Bad As Other Countries’
One of the deflections Russia Today‘s (RT) contributors often point out is that many other countries have extreme laws criminalizing homosexuality, whereas Russia’s law does not technically make it a crime to be gay. Of course, most of those other countries are small commonwealth states, not world powers hosting international events.
Another comparison is to Section 28, which was a law in the United Kingdom until 2003 banning local governments and schools from promoting homosexuality. In this clip, Ben Harris-Quinney tells viewers that Section 28 was “almost exactly the same” as Russia’s law....

The Law Simply Protects Minors
RT likes to emphasize that the law is designed to protect minors, as if that intention alone makes it okay. Consider this clip from earlier this month, in which the reporter says, “The LGBT Community in the West is furious with the passing of a new Russian law banning gay propaganda to minors, a detail almost never mentioned”.....

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
22. Thanks for the cites.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:01 AM
Nov 2015

Do you think the Russians are more anti gay than say Uganda where we have our troops looking for coney2012.

Or any of the gulf states? Why the silence for those creeps. It seems to me that even without that issue there would be many still hating Russians and Russia. Pretty much started when he gave Snowden asylum.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. Are we playing "compare and contrast" here?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:33 PM
Nov 2015

Or the old quick-point-over-there and say "Well, THAT one is WORSE!"

Lesin wasn't from Uganda or the Gulf states, now, was he?

We can rake those guys over the coals when a topic relating to them comes up, no problem.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
21. I love Thom Hartmann
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:09 AM
Nov 2015

and he is an ally, not an enemy, of gay rights. I can't and won't speak for RT at large, since I don't watch their other programming.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
12. RT, founded by a Putin critic
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:31 AM
Nov 2015

I will remember that next time someone attacks the messenger and not the issues. As we say Arigato (thank you).

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
16. How did you come to the conclusion that the dead person was a Putin critc?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:46 AM
Nov 2015

The dead person was not a Putin critic (at least publicly). However, many gangsters who were not critics of their bosses ended up with piano wire around their necks or bullets in their brains. Also, judging a news organization's credibility based upon the founder, and not the organization's actual publications, is not intelligent.

You seem to have an illogical thought process.

You're welcome.







MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Slow that roll, now--when it was founded, though, he and Putin were buddies.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:40 PM
Nov 2015

And now RT is state-owned.

And the latest? The Russians think the guy is in a witness protection program, and not dead at all....!



Key aide: Mikhail Lesin (right, with Putin), who was Putin's press secretary during his first stint as president, founded state television network Russia Today, regarded in the West as a mouthpiece for the Kremlin



Longstanding association: Mikhail Lesin had known Vladimir Putin before the Russian strongman took control of the Kremlin and was nicknamed 'the Bulldozer' for getting the media to dance to Putin's tune



Comrades: Mikhail Lesin was Putin's press minister from 1999 to 2004, then his press adviser from 2004 to 2009, when he created Russia Today


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315994/Vladimir-Putin-s-media-mastermind-dead-DC-hotel-murdered-FBI-informant-alive-claim-Russians.html#ixzz3rQDf1D3z

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. didn't he just finish help change the media 'system' in russia to govenment control?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:35 AM
Nov 2015

Their citizens seem to have gone missing on global medias like youtube, their TV news personal were changed and there are no more bloggers writing about differences they have with their government.

Even artists and singers were punished if they did anything the government didn't like.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
20. This thread reminds me of the paranoia around Vince Foster.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:24 AM
Nov 2015

The guy had a heart attack. That happens some times.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. MAJOR UPDATE to this story--rumor at this stage, but you never know!!
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015
EXCLUSIVE: Vladimir Putin's media Svengali who was found dead in DC hotel was 'murdered for being an FBI informant' - or could even still be alive, claim Russians
Millionaire Mikhail Lesin, 57, was found dead in $240-a-night in Washington DC last Friday and police are investigating
The pro-Putin 'propaganda channel' he set up, RT, claimed he 'had been suffering from a prolonged unidentified illness'
But DC police have made no such finding and now speculation is mounting in Russia that he was murdered because he had turned FBI informer
Know as 'the Bulldozer' he was key to media falling into line with Putin but had recently found new love and become father with Siberian model, 29
By WILL STEWART IN MOSCOW FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:31 EST, 12 November 2015 | UPDATED: 06:17 EST, 13 November 2015


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315994/Vladimir-Putin-s-media-mastermind-dead-DC-hotel-murdered-FBI-informant-alive-claim-Russians.html#ixzz3rQ8nBaam



The death from a 'heart attack' of a longtime close ally of Vladimir Putin in a Washington hotel has led to a swirl of speculation that he was murdered on Moscow's orders after offering to help the FBI.
Mikhail Lesin, 57, was announced last weekend to have been found dead in the US capital. He was a Svengali figure for Putin, who was alleged to have menaced the Russian media into idolizing the strongman president.
The shock death has created an eave of speculation in Moscow that it is related to previous reports that he was helping the FBI - and could be murder.
There are even separate allegations that Lesin may still be alive, with his demise faked by the US authorities.
According to this version, he is being kept safe as part of a witness protection scheme, while spilling to the FBI all he knows on Putin's Russia.
Daily Mail Online can reveal that only weeks before his death was announced, he fathered a child with glamorous model and flight attendant Victoria Rakhimbayeva....



MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. In Russia, what people BELIEVE is as significant as what might or might not
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

have happened. Where's the body?

Perhaps you don't remember the old, Cold War era adage

There is no PRAVDA in ISVESTIA, and no ISVESTIA in PRAVDA?

Nothing has changed except the selection and illusion.

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