Hillary Clinton calls for marijuana to be reclassified
Source: Politico
Hillary Clinton on Saturday called for marijuana to be reclassified from a Schedule I drug to Schedule II, citing medical research.
I do support the use of medical marijuana, Clinton said to a predominantly African American audience at a town hall meeting at Clafin University in Orangeburg, South Carolina. And I think even there we need to do a lot more research so that we know exactly how were going to help people for whom medical marijuana provides relief.
I want to move from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2 so researchers can research whats the best way to use it, dosage, how does it work with other medications," she added.
The 2016 Democratic frontrunner declined to offer a position on marijuana during CNNs Democratic presidential debate in October.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-marijuana-215623
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Bernie's platform beats hers hands down.
ETA: I hope no one takes that as sexist. nt
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Hillary makes we want to puke every single second.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Dentist are who use it sometimes.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Cannabis shouldn't be on the list of federally controlled drugs.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I'm a St. 4 cancer patient on mmj following conventional (harsh) treatments, surgery and chemo. I don't know how much to take since the Sched. 1 classification has prevented human trials on use of mmj for cancer. Use me as a guinea pig. I'm in my 60's and a perfect candidate to move this treatment into the mainstream for cancer. Check out these animal studies (b/c there are no human trials):
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all
Despite these animal studies and others PROVING mmj is beneficial for some cancers, there have been no human trials. It's criminal.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)it leaves pot illegal for use.
Bernie-2016
(27 posts)Needs to be removed completely from any scheduling. Legalize and regulate it like tobacco and alcohol.
Isn't that so hard?
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Why would they lose control?? That wouldnt benefit them the least!
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)As the polls change based on American's attitudes toward the weed.
What a coward. Or, she is just pandering and really does not want it legalized at all.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)People have been experimenting with pot for centuries, I think we know what it does and does not do. Bernie cuts to the chase and Hillary appears to be pro legalization without ever coming down on it. It's a talent she has developed to an art form!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Lets research the shit out of it for a few more years and maybe she can slide out of office without making a real decision.
The same kind of half assed playing to the middle compromise we have come to expect from the Clintons among us.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)read to another Poll...and decided it was now safe
Locrian
(4,522 posts)So this is what to expect for bold leadership?
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Marijuana should be legal. Alcohol is. And sure as hell alcohol is 1000x worse than pot.
Wish she would keep up with reality. But she refuses to, for reasons well known.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)it both helpful and harmless.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But some are super cautious. It's legal here and folks are still acting like we are going to have riots.
Since it's legal now, we have people trying to convince spice smokers to switch to weed. We needcomparitive research so that our children stop thinking Spice (fake weed) is a safer legal alternative. They keep ending up in the hospital, vomiting blood, some on life support. We need to get info to the public. I had to wean a young friend (19) off of Spice by using cannibis. I was so scared he was not going to make it through. Research would help. The cannibis stopped his vomiting and after two weeks he was much better. People need to know this.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)By the time I finished she's be bumping Teddy Pendergrass and smoking a doobie.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Sanders wants to end the criminal classification of a drug that has sent hundreds of thousands of black people to jail nationwide. Hillary wants to keep that atrocity going. Hillary's position is the same as the ENTIRE republican primary field. Only Sanders has taken a progressive stance on it.
At the end of the day, Hillary would support sending YOU personally, to jail. Sanders would not. That's a fact.
http://www.alternet.org/story/154587/1_in_3_black_men_go_to_prison_the_10_most_disturbing_facts_about_racial_inequality_in_the__u.s._criminal_justice_system
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)But never say boo about the kids as young as four being arrested and the unequal punishments that occur in our demographic from pre school to death, on every issue. But mention WEED? They get all hot and bothered and even attack BLACK PEOPLE over the issue of those selfsame blacks being punished worse, like those blacks do NOT ALREADY KNOW THAT. It seems selfish to me, like they just wanna smoke freely and care now because white kids are getting caught up in the drug war. I noticed sypmathy for heroin addicts now that it's hitting the suburbs. I guess we can thank Hoffmann for raising their awareness that they never had when scores of blacks were dying.
Response to bravenak (Reply #117)
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)minority children are punished excessively/exceptionally from the earliest grade levels on up.
Since you read it and all.
I'm well aware of the disparity, and I am doing what I can to fix it. And it's not just black people. Hispanics, and other minorities are caught up in it as well. My son is Hispanic and growing up fast, so please excuse my desire to ensure the world treats him fairly. Best way to do that is make sure the world treats EVERYONE fairly. I'm not just trying to carve out a safe exception in society for my own child, I want society to be healthy from stem to stern.
Hillary opposes that. Sanders supports it. Pardon my selfishness in choosing the better option.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Weed is the least of it.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I'm glad my candidate is on the right side of this issue.
Instead of cracking jokes upthread, if you're going to support Hillary, can you at least work to change her position on this issue? As you know, it directly affects the lives of millions.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She ignores attacks since she is used to being attacked. I can only change her by communicating with other supporters in order for us to petition her for the change we desire.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)But until then, Sanders' values are more in tune with mine.
That doesn't mean we have to fight each other, either. I'm glad we are able to talk.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But, she can be moved. Slowly. It will be nice to have you there if she wins.
PufPuf23
(8,790 posts)their position on issues?
Why not encourage other HRC supporters to shift their support to a candidate where you do not petition for change in position on issues?
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Big difference between a controlled human trial and various studies by different docs across the globe, studying mostly their own patients.
I am totally sold on mmj and I take it as a cancer patient due to this:
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all
But without human trials, it's all guesswork as to dosage, strains and what type of cancer will respond positively.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)We still need to find out exactly how beneficial it can be so we can convince some of the other red states to allow the use. You sound pissed. You should come smoke.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Sec. Clinton's proposed stance would still allow (depending on AG discretion) people to be locked up for following the state law. Not good enough. Not by a mile.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)You would need a massive grow operation intended for the black market for feds to come. Most do it for personal use.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)He was a gangster!!! I am hella mild in comparison and do not see Feds behind every corner waiting to strike on unsuspecting tokers in their livingrooms. What are they gonna do? Slap charges on me for this joint? They do not take minor cases. Having a case over a twenty sack of weed come to their desk would probably just piss them off. And not at me, mind, at the idiot who sent such a stupid case to the feds.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)For blacks, the inconsistancy in punishments starts in PRE SCHOOL.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I am heartbroken at how our country treats AAs as lessers.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)FFS
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But it led to such violence last time.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)34. I would love to ban alcohol.
But it led to such violence last time.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)To juries: thats what Bravenak is saying, not me.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Is it not? I never spoken about messages or drunk DUrs...
I am going by what you're saying.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)38. Then I would never get an angry drunk message ever again.
34. I would love to ban alcohol.
But it led to such violence last time.
But OK.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Am i not right???
Bon nuit.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Keep it up.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)LMAO!!!!!!!!! But whatever floats your boat.
Night.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)But to each their own, right?
Lmao!!!!
Kali
(55,014 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Not that I am surprised.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Duckfan
(1,268 posts)People do not realize a particular day of the year women are most vulnerable to domestic violence by others (or a significant other) from alcohol: The Super Bowl.
Never heard of a time women have been subjected to DV from someone else stoned on pot. Don't think the FBI would have that statistic listed.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Are you implying that only drunks do that???
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Again, are you implying that someone has to be intoxicated to abuse someone else??????
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)And that's not what you asserted in your first accusations.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)If it makes you feel better, I plan on using my ignore function on you now. I had hoped we could be civil, but I can see that is not to be. Have a nice day.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)You ATTACKED me. Get your ducks in a row. For what is worth.
Wow...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Pathetic... The attacks you had against me and other DUrs...
Sad.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Do you want to ban everything you don't like in life?? Holy crap! Lol
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)And that you would like to "ban alcohol". Sad, really.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Okay. Ignore starts now.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I welcome it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)How sad.. Holy fuck!!!!
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)This "drug" should not be on any schedule. It is much less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. This is easily visible in statistics.
Bernie wants it stricken from the schedule.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)She couldn't be more transparent than this!!!!! Holy fuck!!! While tens of thousands rot in prison over a substance which is not as bad as ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is wrong with us???? Why is she having any support??? She's pro death penalty, pro "more pot research" ( when its clear alcohol is way worse, yet legal), pro TPP, pro wall street, pro ...
:'(
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)I have no fathom, no more capacity to understand some of those I used to call "my fellow human beings". I no longer wonder, but now am convinced that we are in a battle for a new alignment. That would be the alignment of politics to reality.
I believe that can only be achieved by public financing of elections and federal control of federal elections across the states.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)But that was just more lies. Why didn't she take the lead, and lead by exampe????
Like Bernie said, she talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)If she REALLY believed this, she would openly endorse the Sanders bill and call on congress to pass it.
That's what leaders do.
I won't hold my breath
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I think she's trying to respond to Sanders statements but I think that at heart she is really anti marijuana for some reason.
Always has been but then there's the line about more research like she is maybe even questioning the medical use. I sort of get the impression she might think research would prove medical MJ not real.
I would like to see less hawkishness overall. In both foreign policy and drug war from Clinton.
I'd still vote for her, but she should be careful of a GOP challenger that might be to the left of her sort of stealing some of the youth vote.
I mean it's way out but the polling looks really close between Clinton and the GOP at this point.
Is Trump to the left of Clinton or not?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/29/trump-wants-marijuana-legalization-decided-at-the-state-level/
She's definitely to the left of Rubio and Carson though.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Very good point...I should I say question?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Not all approve of the use.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)White people use and advocate decriminalization and legalization of Marijuana more than any other group of people. AFAIK she's never said anything to Caucasian audiences about her views on MJ. But she chose to say this to a group of AAs instead.
I don't know, just seems to be a subtle display of her bigotry to me.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Black people like Hillary and give her leeway. She can be moved to change her positions. I might need to think on how to move her through pressure from within. I plan on volunterring soon. Maybe she'll think on it if we get enough supporters to ask her to move in our direction.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Prohibition of Marijuana has racist roots , it doesn't need to be more research Colorado proved that
edgineered
(2,101 posts)There is a humor forum.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)A mere pot possession destroys people's lives. No, I cannot laugh :'(
thereismore
(13,326 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Ill just have to let this South Park episode stand in for any sort of response to her parroting Bernie. Not that shes going far enough on her" stance. It should be legal, full stop.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Bernie introduced legislation last week to remove marijuana from the federal schedule.
If Bernie said he'd march Hillary off cliff, she'd probably jump off the face of El Capitan in Yosemite.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Which means the drug war profiteers and militarized police forces are still in business as well.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
"so researchers can research whats the best way to use it" - Jesus Christ, this has been around longer than beer. I think a couple thousand years of experience has pretty much demonstrated the best way to use it.
Fuck me. Let's study the best way to use alfalfa, oats, and millet, just to make sure humans haven't been doing it wrong.
Has she looked into how we might use barley, yeast, hops and water?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)listening to Bernie.
God, she is so transparent and will say and do anything to complete the coronation that is happening in her own mind.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)For all who's lives have been destroyed by the ban on marijuana!
Her hypocrisy is astonishing
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Leaders lead and Hillary needs a GPS.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Making marijuana Schedule II would be a step in the right direction. But people get prosecuted for cocaine possession by the federal government, and they'd still be prosecuted for marijuana possession.
Bernie Sanders wants to unschedule marijuana completely. That is a bold move which would prevent people from being prosecuted for marijuana possession by the federal government.
Bernie Sanders is the best of the presidential candidates on marijuana policy.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)And he's a threat to the oligarchy. Thats why they go to their lowest to discredit and smear him!!
Simply disgusting.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Why not reclassify thc as a schedule 3 since marinol is already used to treat several conditions.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...but the federal government could still prosecute people for having marijuana without a prescription if it were Schedule III.
If it were unscheduled, as Bernie Sanders advocates, than the federal government couldn't prosecute people for having marijuana without a prescription.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)If we are just talking scheduled classification.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Maybe Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley want medical marijuana to be Schedule II so it's more difficult to get a refill. I don't know if they've given their reasons.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)bravenak
34. I would love to ban alcohol.
But it led to such violence last time.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Geeeeeeeeeeez!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)People know exactly what she's up to. Unbelievable.
The strange part, is she's proven not to be this stupid. She's up to something.
Oh yeah, like maybe forget it all, if she gets elected.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Lame ass bullshit.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Oh yea, nevermind.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)More research?
I swear some people will parrot any right wing talking point to defend Hillary.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Sickening, isn't it???.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Since they won't end up doing prison time for their weed they don't care about anyone else.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Makes me sick to my stomach, the hypocrisy.
I feel sorry for them.
George II
(67,782 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Try that for a sec,then get back. Thank you.
George II
(67,782 posts)does that even remotely have anything with the OP?
Further, why do you even care about someone else's posts? Stalk much?
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Why don't you for the source???? And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk".
Fact check!!!
George II
(67,782 posts)"Why don't you for the source????"
"And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk". "
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Do you have Bravenak on ignore??? If not, just read up the thread.
Geez
George II
(67,782 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Even a newbie would make sense of our exchange ( between me and Bravenak). So wtf!
George II
(67,782 posts)"Why don't you for the source????"
Why don't I WHAT "for the source"?
And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk".
Who/what "did accuse DUrs"???????
Maybe Bravenak was correct?
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I'm pretty certain you can.So go read it, and get back to me after.
X
George II
(67,782 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)ROTFLMAO
Can she copy Bernie's positions anymore?
...what a joke.
ms liberty
(8,580 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Good for her.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Since she doesn't want to discriminalize pot use. Shes only pitching in for appearances.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)without reading the details. Schedule II? Totally bogus.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)AllyCat
(16,189 posts)"So what? Big deal"
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)Bernie says it, hillary claims it.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Cmon Hill get real and take a solid stance. Legalize and tax it!
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)America's copy and paste candidate.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Just 3 years ago Hillary was still supporting the "3 strikes" law her husband signed into law back in the 90s..
polly7
(20,582 posts)by ....... ugh, I can't remember the name now, showed bits of a trial where a man (who happened to be black) was sentenced to LIFE for what I thought would be about a five-year sentence.
I was completely shocked, and it made my stomach a bit sick. What a horrific, inhumane law.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)but I will have to hold my nose to vote for her if she is the nominee.
This kind of gutless "me too" pandering is disgusting.
Marijuana needs to be DECRIMINALIZED, not placed in the same category as co-fucking caine!
I will support Sanders in the primary and vote for Clinton if she is nominated. The only thing stupider than a republican is a liberal who stays home on election day or votes for some no-chance spoiler like Nader.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)WTF?
The fucking government has studied the shit out of it. Like, 80 years or so.
They STILL can't find anything wrong with it.
DUMBASS!
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Bernie called for it to be taken off the list of dangerous drugs entirely. It should be completely unscheduled, like alcohol and tobacco.
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)So surprising. Don't be surprised if she's ripping off ideas from Ben Carson next August.
olddots
(10,237 posts)but they didn't inhale .