Cuba blames US for instigating surge of migrants from island
Source: AP
Cuban officials blamed the United States late Tuesday for instigating a surge in the number of Cuban migrants attempting to reach the U.S. through Central America amid ongoing efforts to normalize relations between the former Cold War foes.
In a statement aired on the government's nightly broadcast, Cuba's Ministry of Foreign Relations said U.S. policy allowing nearly all Cuban migrants who reach U.S. soil to stay contradicts ongoing efforts to renew relations between the countries.
"This policy encourages illegal emigration from Cuba to the United States and constitutes a violation of the letter and spirit of the migration accords," the statement read.
The statement marked Cuba's first official response to the swell of migrants fleeing the island since Presidents Barack Obama and Raul Castro announced plans to restore diplomatic ties nearly one year ago.
Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/costa-rica-proposes-humanitarian-corridor-cuban-migrants-204305626.html
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Happy people don't abandon everything and struggle to get to a new country just for fun.
Archae
(46,337 posts)The CIA is to blame!
Mika
(17,751 posts)Maybe we should look at the wet foot dry foot policy the US has for Cubans only. They can arrive by illegal means, no matter their criminal background, receive a bounty of perks for Cubans only, and then return for a visit with no restriction. Hundreds of thousands do return to visit the country they "fled" every year.
Now imagine an open door policy for any other poor Caribbean or LatAm nationals.
razorman
(1,644 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)it has nothing to do with the way Cuba treats her citizens.
carla
(553 posts)US policy encourages illegal immigration. How is it bad if Mexicans do it but ok if Cubans do it? Cubans get super-percs if they get to US benefits, housing public aid...all other illegal immigrants get hunted and deported. Suppose what you will, but you're a bit short on comprehension it seems.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Cuba allows Cubans who "fled" & claim political asylum to return anytime for vacation & mojitos on the beaches.
Mika
(17,751 posts)PLUNDERING AMERICA: THE CUBAN CRIMINAL PIPELINE
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A yearlong Sun Sentinel investigation found money stolen in the United States streaming back to Cuba, and a revolving door that allows thieves to come here, make a quick buck and return.
Cuba has become a bedroom community for criminals who exploit Americas good will.
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Livan Moya Tagle, charged in a million-dollar Texas credit-card fraud ring, told the Sun Sentinel that he stole to feed his family, and that Cubans go to the U.S. for economic opportunity. No one leaves {Cuba} because of politics, he said.
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American authorities naively think Cubans who leave Cuba hate the Cuban government, he wrote. I went to the U.S. to steal, to damage the U.S. Government.
Much much more. Full story here --> http://interactive.sun-sentinel.com/plundering-america/
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)(you remember how the "rumor" that the revolution would send Cuban children to Russia to be indoctrinated had Cuban wealthy parents putting their children and flying them immediately to the U.S. to live with relatives, or simply be the wards of the Church until they could be adopted, the wave of immigrant children (NOT rejected, of course!) known as the Peter Pan children, as they all flew to the US) that since there's a foreseeable end to the hostility toward Cuba, there will be a cancelation of the Cuban Adjustment Act, and no Cuban will be getting instant legal status (no hassle with immigration services), green card, social security, food stamps, US taxpayer-funded Section 8 HOUSING, free medical treatment, educational financing, etc.
Can you imagine how crowded this country would be if this smorgasbord of benefits were available instantly to the people from countries where they are in real danger for their lives, like Central America, Mexico, Haiti, etc.? We would be standing in one huge crowd, cheek to cheek, from coast to coast.
The Cuban exception has been the political use the US Gov't could make by paying people to leave Cuba, and offering them the same benefits they had back at home!
So now, the Republican Congresspeeps in Florida DON'T want a continuation of this Adjustment Act as sooner or later, probably sooner, this Adjustment Act is going to blow up in their faces when the US public learns how much we've been unknowingly shoveling out to these guys for political reasons.
As mentioned by a great DU'er in another thread, the newer Cuban immigrants who stay are far more likely to be Democrats, anyway.
Ros-Lehtinen adjusts stance on Cuban Adjustment Act
Updated 11:16 am, Saturday, October 31, 2015
MIAMI (AP) The longest-serving Cuban-American in Congress may be easing her support for the Cuban Adjustment Act.
Miami Republican Ileana Ros-Lehtinen has long defended the act, which generally shields Cubans from deportation if they reach U.S. shores and fast-tracks the process for permanent residency. But in a segment taped for "Facing South Florida with Jim DeFede" on Sunday, Ros-Lehtinen said a Sun Sentinel investigation alerted her to welfare abuses by recent Cuban migrants collecting U.S. assistance and returning to Cuba.
According to the newspaper (http://bit.ly/1SeAJvH), the congresswoman told DeFede that while she doesn't favor completely ending the act, she does think Cubans exploiting it "should not have the privilege."
She said she's leaving reforms to another Florida Republican, Carlos Curbelo, who is working on legislation to modify the act by sanctioning Cubans who return to Cuba before becoming U.S. citizens.
http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Ros-Lehtinen-adjusts-stance-on-Cuban-Adjustment-6602698.php
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141247806
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Congresswoman, Miami Republican Ileana Ros-Lehtinen[/center]
pampango
(24,692 posts)to the instant legal status Cubans get if they set foot on US soil. If a Cuban is considering coming to the US they may worry that, if they wait too long, immigration law may change and they will no longer be automatically welcomed.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Life would lose its meaning if they had to worry about getting caught and sent back like everyone else without a visa.
razorman
(1,644 posts)there were expressions of joy that American tourists could once again visit Havana. I wondered if Cuba was going to reciprocate and allow their citizens to visit relatives in Miami. How's that going?
Mika
(17,751 posts)The change was the opening of embassies.
The US sanctions remain, and legal American travel is limited to 12 categories that DO NOT include tourism.
The only exception is for Cuban migrants who can return for whatever reason they like, and that has pretty much always been the case.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)This influx is just people getting paid before the free money goes away.
The problem for Cuba is that they don't want so many people to be in limbo because once you leave you lose all of your status as a citizen.
Cuba is one of the states that strips citizenship for leaving the country and staying elsewhere for an extended period.
It's only a matter of time before the embargo is lifted, and it will be fascinating to see how Cuba does.
Most all Cuban-Americans retain their Cuban citizen status in Cuba. Most of my Cuban and Cuban-American friends and family have valid/current Cuban passports in addition to either their US passports or "green card". There are some circumstances where Cuban expats have lost their Cuban citizenship, but, those are very few.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Nearly 60% of Cuban-Americans have lost their Cuban citizenship. That's not "very few."
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/cuban-immigrants-united-states
Yes, there are modern Cuban immigrants who brag about the free money and aid and even brag about sending it back home, but I only see those articles complaining about it on right wing sites.
My guess is that the Cuban-American friends and family you have are not actually citizens or are naturalized, and if they are, they're skirting the Cuban constitution through some kind of cronyism.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Love the cronyism ad hominem. Nice touch.
You link has no data relating to your doggerel.
Have a nice day.
Cheers.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...of the constitution then that is certainly cronyism to the core (Article 32).
The page I link says 59% of Cuban immigrants are naturalized. If they retain their Cuban citizenship and rights, then the constitution is not being enforced and cronyism exists.
It is not an insult to observe this.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Article 23
The State recognizes the property of mixed enterprises, and by economic partnerships and associations that are established in conformity with the law.
The use, benefit, and disposal of the assets pertaining to the equity of the aforementioned entities are governed by that established in the law and treaties, as well as by their own statutes and regulations by which they are governed.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Mika
(17,751 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Article 32: Cubans may not be deprived of their citizenship save for established legal causes. Neither may they be deprived of the right to change citizenship.
Dual citizenship is not recognized. Therefore, when a foreign citizenship is acquired, the Cuban one will be lost.
Formalization of the loss of citizenship and the authorities empowered to decide on this is prescribed by law.
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Cuba
On my phone, can't argue.
Hey I have no problem if this is happening, in fact, good on Cuba for not enforcing it if so. But I can see why it might not be, if no one falls in line they are gone, so it could be used as a tool of oppression.
If it's enforced then some 59 percent of Cuban Americans are not citizens of Cuba anymore.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Maybe they all represent, somehow, the tiny group some people claim would be allowed to have dual citizenships. Just a coincidence, no doubt. Maybe they're all double agents.
Mika
(17,751 posts)My friends & family all have fake passports. They all got them with their crony connections. Strange... they use them not just for travel to the US, but elsewhere in the Americas too. I'll have to tell them they are not valid because "some people" say so.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Maybe you just dreamed it for year after year after year. That could happen.
Maybe you've just dreamed the times you've lived and worked in Cuba, yourself, dreamed it all up. So sad.
razorman
(1,644 posts)I thought that full relations had been pretty much restored. So, American tourists can't visit Cuba, after all? I know that there are some scientific exchanges and such.
7962
(11,841 posts)Its everyone ELSE'S fault!
Its our fault when we had no relations, now its our fault after we normalize them