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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:39 PM Nov 2015

Fox News Poll: Trump, Sanders lead respective primaries in New Hampshire

Source: Fox News

Bernie Sanders.....45%
Hillary Clinton......44%
Martin O’Malley......5%



Donald Trump.......27%
Marco Rubio.........13%
Ted Cruz..............11%
Jeb Bush...............9%
Ben Carson...........9%
John Kasich...........7%
Chris Christie.........6%
Carly Fiorina..........3%
Rand Paul..............3%
Lindsey Graham......1%
Mike Huckabee.......1%
Rick Santorum........1%

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2015/11/18/fox-news-poll-trump-sanders-lead-respective-primaries-in-new-hampshire/



For those who would prefer The Hill's report on the same polling conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (a Democratic pollster) and Shaw & Company Research (a Republican pollster), here's a link:

Sanders ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire poll


Also, this polling is reported by, and included within aggregate polling of, Huffington Post's pollster as well as Real Clear Politics so you can go there to get your polling if you prefer.


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Fox News Poll: Trump, Sanders lead respective primaries in New Hampshire (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 OP
LOL Fox News. leftofcool Nov 2015 #1
Since when did FOX News qualify as a valid source of substance on DU? liberal N proud Nov 2015 #2
True. Bernie's lead is bigger. ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #3
So this thread is all humor liberal N proud Nov 2015 #4
It's a Fox News poll. Presumably, Fox News is where you would turn for a Fox News poll you can get Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #5
It's FOX liberal N proud Nov 2015 #6
Fox commissions the poll. It is done by Anderson Robbins Research (a Democratic pollster) with Shaw Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #12
Find another source liberal N proud Nov 2015 #14
Do you know how polling works? The sponsor of the poll does not conduct the poll. When CBS sponsors Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #15
I don't care, we don't source FOX. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #17
Except for when reporting Fox News polling as shown here, here, here, etc: Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #20
I would have made the same protest had I seen them. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #21
I gave you the Huffington Post Pollster link. Use that if you prefer. Here is a link to The Hill Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #23
Looking at those threads, only one didn't get called out for sourcing from FOX. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #22
The Hill reports on the same poll, but the source above is just the Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw & Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #26
But you chose to cite and lino to FOX. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #27
This is breaking news, no? The link above was breaking news and The Hill reported the story AFTER Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #30
fox an arm of the republican party. In foxes round about way- they are 'always' anti-Clinton 100% Sunlei Nov 2015 #40
It is a FoxNoiz poll and they like OUR candidates better than THEIRS.. That is fantastic. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #8
If Fox Noise reported that I had inherited a million dollars tax free DFW Nov 2015 #7
Exactly liberal N proud Nov 2015 #10
I'm not surprised ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #9
trump has been pretty consistently at the top in almost every poll restorefreedom Nov 2015 #11
Sorry, As much as I like to hear this......... Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #13
We're quoting Fox now? RandySF Nov 2015 #16
This never would have happened before. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #18
DU is unhinged RandySF Nov 2015 #19
Speaking of unhinged Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #41
Now? jeff47 Nov 2015 #34
The idiots have no idea what irony means davidpdx Nov 2015 #37
Sample was from customers at some hot dog stand. Gregorian Nov 2015 #24
Sunday's Gravis Poll: Clinton 46, Sanders 25, O'Malley 3 - Clinton +21 George II Nov 2015 #25
Gravis was the last poll before Clinton's 9/11-Wall St. gaffe, and this is the first post-gaffe poll Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #28
Fox? Seriously? Laser102 Nov 2015 #29
Please read this thread to see how I was roasted for citing a Gravis Poll DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #31
But with Gravis, the polling company itself has been appropriately questioned. Here Anderson Robbins Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #32
I am not going to get in a debate about the efficacy of polling. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #33
The people saying it's a compromised poll because it was commissioned by Fox News... PoliticalMalcontent Nov 2015 #35
Additional Thoughts: PoliticalMalcontent Nov 2015 #36
Exactly. Criticizing a ARR/S&C poll just because of its link to Fox is like hating the Simpsons just Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #38
If Trump 'quits' who will he back along with the 27%? Sunlei Nov 2015 #39

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. It's a Fox News poll. Presumably, Fox News is where you would turn for a Fox News poll you can get
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:46 PM
Nov 2015

this poll off of Real Clear Politics or Huffington Post's Pollster if you'd rather. I went to the source.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
6. It's FOX
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:54 PM
Nov 2015

Nothing FOX says, writes or posts can be trusted as truth.

If this is considered as a valid source on DU it would be an indicator to a possible reason there has been so much vitriol o this site in the last several months.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
12. Fox commissions the poll. It is done by Anderson Robbins Research (a Democratic pollster) with Shaw
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

& Company Research (a Republican pollster). They get an above average rating for accuracy and reliability from 538.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
15. Do you know how polling works? The sponsor of the poll does not conduct the poll. When CBS sponsors
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:21 PM
Nov 2015

a poll, Opinion Research Corp. does the poll.

This is a Democratic pollster and a Republican pollster with good accuracy ratings. This is not reporting or editorializing.

This is reported by, and included within aggregate polling by Huffington Post's pollster as well as Real Clear Politics.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
21. I would have made the same protest had I seen them.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

The fact that the stand demonstrates how diluted the membership here has become.

Find a reputable source for your information and I would recommend avoiding FOX because of their propensity for propaganda.


Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
26. The Hill reports on the same poll, but the source above is just the Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw &
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:45 PM
Nov 2015

Company Research poll with no editorial comment whatsoever.

Use The Hill link if you prefer.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
30. This is breaking news, no? The link above was breaking news and The Hill reported the story AFTER
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

the OP was started.

I neither watch nor trust Fox News. However, if you want breaking news of a Fox News sponsored poll (conducted with a Democratic pollster -- and it is live phone poll and not a questionable internet poll or automated phone poll) in a battleground/first primary state, that news is going to break on Fox.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. fox an arm of the republican party. In foxes round about way- they are 'always' anti-Clinton 100%
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:17 AM
Nov 2015

count on that.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
7. If Fox Noise reported that I had inherited a million dollars tax free
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015

I would assume that my house had been repossessed.

Using Fox as a source for anything is like using a fracking company's report on how safe drinking water is where they drill.
I'm not saying the figures are necessarily inaccurate, just that the source has a track record of being less than truthful at times (we purport, you deride)....

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
11. trump has been pretty consistently at the top in almost every poll
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:05 PM
Nov 2015

so if his numbers are correct, why would the dem ones be wrong?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
41. Speaking of unhinged
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:19 AM
Nov 2015

Have you read some of the things that DU's own resident FOX Noise commentator has posted here, to the applause of Hillary supporters (this year, that is, not back in 2008)?

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
32. But with Gravis, the polling company itself has been appropriately questioned. Here Anderson Robbins
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015

Research/Shaw & Company Research is a well respected bi-partisan polling team using live phone polling (including both landlines and cell phones), which is the A+ methodology.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. I am not going to get in a debate about the efficacy of polling.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:22 PM
Nov 2015

If FOX isn't verboten here then neither should Gravis, the latter of which is not an auxiliary of the Republican party. It wasn't Gravis' methodology, flawed or not, that some believe makes it verboten. It was their alleged bias.

The fact that Anderson Robbins has a (D) after their name is of no moment. Hell, Judas Iscariot held himself out as a disciple of Christ.



35. The people saying it's a compromised poll because it was commissioned by Fox News...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:00 AM
Nov 2015

C'mon people. Be honest with yourselves. Yes, Fox News sucks. It's a terrible place with opinionated assholes who tend to report their news with a clear bias. That doesn't make all news tainted. If they reported that the sky was blue would you disagree with on principle alone? That's the kind of thinking that helps nobody. Let's not cut off our nose to spite our face.

The data was obtained from an unbiased secondary source. Fox can spin the polls all they want, but if we have access to the raw numbers we can view them without the Fox News' bias. That's the important thing.

In the end most all of the poll results fall within the margin of error (MoE), including the Hillary Vs Sanders question. I found the individual match-up results of Hillary Vs Republican Candidates to be interesting though. She "beats": Trump, Cruz and Christie (Only Trump being outside of the MoE). She "loses" to: Carson, Bush, Kasish, Rubio (With only Rubio outside of the MoE). She's tied with Fiorina in this limited poll. Frankly, that matches up with my gut feeling that Rubio would be the hardest candidate in a general. Again, small sample-size caveats abound!

Oddly, they didn't do heads-up polling of Sanders Vs Republican Candidates which could mean any number of things. Perhaps they just want a feel of how badly they've damaged Hillary's reputation, or to see which Republican candidate to cover most favorably in the future. Who knows. That's where your Fox News spin machine comes into play.

36. Additional Thoughts:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:11 AM
Nov 2015

If Rubio truly is Hillary's toughest match-up it's going to be interesting to see the results of the Republican Primaries. He's coming in 2nd in this NH poll, but you'd have to imagine the closer we get to Primary Season the more people will realize "Holy shit, we could be sending Donald Trump into the General Election!" and sober up. Trump has such a high unfavorability rating.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
38. Exactly. Criticizing a ARR/S&C poll just because of its link to Fox is like hating the Simpsons just
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:49 AM
Nov 2015

because it airs on the Fox network.

Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw & Company is a bi-partisan polling team with a demonstrated record of reliability and accuracy confirmed by 538 and the poll was done using the most reliable methodology of live cellphone/landline live phone polling.

Hate Fox News, but don't let hatred cloud your judgment.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
39. If Trump 'quits' who will he back along with the 27%?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:15 AM
Nov 2015

If Trump doesn't quit, he will win the republican primary. Will he take Rubio, Cruz or Bush as VP? I guess Rubio as he has less hateful baggage.

I don't think Trump 'likes' Fiorina enough to be stuck with a woman as VP for years. He wouldn't be able to 'fire' her, if he has a bad day.

Of course none of them would ever make it inside the White House.

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