Mississippi man guns down Waffle House waitress after she asks him not to smoke

[riversedge]

Source: raw story




Travis Gettys
27 Nov 2015 at 13:02 ET



Johnny Mounts


An enraged Waffle House customer shot and killed a waitress early Friday who asked him not to smoke.

Police said Johnny Mount was eating about 1 a.m. at the restaurant in Biloxi, Mississippi, when he lit a cigarette, reported WLOX-TV.

A waitress asked the 45-year-old Mount to put out the cigarette or smoke outside, and he began arguing with her.

Police said Mount then pulled out a 9 mm handgun he had concealed under his shirt and shot the 52-year-old waitress in the head.

She was taken to a nearby hospital but died from her wounds........

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/mississippi-man-guns-down-waffle-house-waitress-after-she-asks-him-not-to-smoke/

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A working waitress--in the early morning hours senselessly gunned down. May her family find peace.


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[Iliyah]

1. WTF, damn

Shit ^&%$#@)(*^*

[liberal N proud]

2. Don't cross anyone, they may be packing

[christx30]

6. And we don't know the good, stable

gun owners from the crazies like this guy until they draw their weapons and fire.

But any attempt to remove the weapons from the hands of the crazies is anti-American and the NRA will swoop in and protect the gun.
The waitress is just the cost of doing business for the NRA, I guess.

[liberal N proud]

18. Gun nuts will tell you that they can

Tell the good gun nut from the bad gun nut.

[hatrack]

3. He seems like a nice . . . uh . . .

person . . .

[lastlib]

7. (a term to be construed loosely in his case............)

Fuck the bastards. Hey Wayne*, I think this was one of those (whaddyacallit?) "a good guy with a gun"?

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*Wayne LaPee-Error, chief NRA Dickhead.

[Sherman A1]

4. Sad

may her family find peace and may the shooter get what he deserves for such a heinous act.

[blackspade]

5. Another responsible gun owner...

[lastlib]

8. a *LAW-ABIDING* gun owner........

...until he pulled the trigger.

[Judi Lynn]

11. So right. He was a "good guy with a gun" until he wasn't.

In fact, some might feel she was denying his right to smoke while eating. He did it in defense of his rights.

[houston16revival]

9. A bad guy with a gun

No amount of good guys could have prevented this

[Ilsa]

10. ^^^ Rec your Reply! ^^^ This! ^^^ nt

[Ilsa]

12. I hope his ass is ripped apart by other inmates.

There are bound to be a few with moms, sisters, girlfriends, etc that have worked the overnight shift at a WH, IHOP, Dennys, etc.

Not talking about rape. Just a general ass-kicking.

[7962]

15. You might get alerted on for that one.

But I'm gonna go ahead and agree before it happens!!

[Ilsa]

17. I changed it. probably under review as we speak. I added

that I was referring to an ass-kicking. Rape was not my intention.

[Skittles]

47. I really detest people who alert without asking a single question

f***ing cowards

[7962]

53. It happens ALL the time. Its the default reaction i think

[Skittles]

59. I imagine they were the same ones who went running to the teacher

every time they got upset

they disgust me

[7962]

65. Ha!

[ileus]

13. waffle house; where drunks go when the bar closes.

That's the last place I'd be caught unarmed.

The owners of these shitholes know the type of scumbags they cater to.

[christx30]

19. I was there after work one night,

when it was 2:30 in the morning. The drunks were hassling the waitress and she had the patience of a saint. I gave her a triple tip when I was done.

[bitchkitty]

54. Those women make a lot of money.

They work long shifts and the tables turn very quickly. But they freaking earn it!

[groundloop]

26. 'the last place I'd be caught unarmed' - WTF difference could it have made????

That's the problem with gun nuts, they think that by packing they can somehow magically fix a bad situation. Unless you go through recurrent police training there's no way in hell you could possibly have a positive influence in something like this. That's the NRA's wet dream that keeps selling weapons and ammo. Unless you've ever had a loaded weapon pointed at your head (I have) you can't possibly imagine how helpless you are in such a situation.

[sinkingfeeling]

43. Sorry, but I'm a 68 year old woman and I do go to Waffle House after midnight unarmed. Why

the hell are you so afraid?

[-none]

58. That is the difference between being rational and

and being paranoid. Most people never feel the need to be armed in public. It is those that do that cause most of the problems.

[Skittles]

61. I too am routinely in restaurants in the middle of the night, unarmed

I find your kind of fear and paranoia absolutely sickening

[LiberalArkie]

14. I wonder what his tox screen will be?

[onehandle]

16. Second Amendment Remedies. nt

[riversedge]

23. Only possible with too many guns. Guns everywhere--used whenever someone happens

to get angry at another person. damn!!

[Judi Lynn]

20. All hail our drunken armed overlords.

[center]

Johnny Max Mount [/center]
May he never rest in peace.

[WinkyDink]

22. Enabled by craven traitors called "Republican politicians"

[riversedge]

24. He looks like he needs some hard labor.

[BlueMTexpat]

36. I second that heartily. eom

[WinkyDink]

21. That man needs to suffer. A LOT.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Whatever happened to "An Armed Society is a Polite Society" ?

[lastlib]

38. Somalia. eom

[rockfordfile]

27. A gun carrying loser and murder

The fact that this loser had to take gun with him to a Waffle House says it all.

[GETPLANING]

28. A gun fetishist friend of mine said, "An armed society is a polite society."

I'm sending him this link.

[lastlib]

39. Ask him if he is referring to Somalia?

[CBHagman]

68. That's what I want to post...

...every time a shooting of this sort happens.

[enid602]

29. tobacco

Another life tragically lost to tobacco.

[Earth_First]

40. This response is insane! n/t

[whereisjustice]

30. Added to the list...

These are the NRA gun nuts who are going to stop the terrorists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027388567

[MrMickeysMom]

31. What a way to exit this life...

Let's buy the guy a carton of Lucky's while he meets new friends behind bars.

[ck4829]

32. Looks like one of those creeps who will just shrug when he pleads not guilty, when he's convicted,

and when he's sentenced to death.

"Showed no emotion as...", expect to see that a lot.

Forget guns, how are these people out on the streets?

[Marie Marie]

33. What. An. asshole.

[catbyte]

34. Jesus Fucking Christ. Another responsible concealed carrier.

[Bernin]

35. Gun hump'n

Personally, I'm not a gun enthusiast.

But, guns don't seem to be the real problem. We have had guns in everyone's hands in this country since it's inception. No it's not the guns. The problem is the country has turned into a bunch of assholes. Idiots running around with phrases like kick their ass and take their gas. Come to mind. Government sanctioned torture comes to mind. Homan square comes to mind. Bald face lying "news" outlets and police dept's along with municipalities come to mind. Paramilitary raids on private residences in the name of the war on <s>drugs</s> Americans comes to mind. Police throwing grenades into babies' cribs and having the gall to actually blame the baby in court documents comes to mind. Unimaginable wealth disparity comes to mind. Any episode of the show Cops comes to mind.
I could go on with this list forever.

How have we gotten here?
Who is doing this to us?
Who gains from our society flying apart from the inside out?

It's not the guns.
It's the attitude everyone has developed as a result of constant war and the belligerent police state.

This problem will not be fixed by getting rid of guns.
Once our society starts treating people at home and abroad like people then we will see this kind of thing reverse course.

[calikid]

41. Nice post

And may I be the first to welcome you to DU

[Judi Lynn]

46. Guns don't exactly enhance the quality of life for anything in this world. No enthusiast? Right. n/t

[Darb]

50. It is the guns more than not.

I agree with you about the craziness around, but there has also been a huge change in the gun culture in the past 40 years. 40 years ago the NRA was just a shooter's and hunter's organization. Now its a manufacturer's lobby trying to increase gun sales.

Guns are more powerful by far and it is the 2A crowd who bear responsibility.

[Skittles]

62. maybe it's what you describe AND the guns

yes, THAT is what it is

and LOL on "not an enthusiast" - please

[KG]

37. 2A uber alles!

[sinkingfeeling]

42. What we really need in this country is more guns. Guns are the solution to every problem in the

world. Somebody asks you not smoke, shoot them. Your spouse cheated on you, shoot them. They don't hold the same beliefs as you, shoot 'em. And on, and on, and on......

[workinclasszero]

44. THANKS NRA!

This country is insane!

[Judi Lynn]

45. That original photo is classic. It's 100% everything you'd expect it to be. Thanks. n/t

[roamer65]

48. So what does the death penalty in MS entail?

Not that I am a big fan of it, but he's going to be sentenced to it.

[jmowreader]

56. I looked it up for you...

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/mississippi-law/mississippi-capital-punishment-laws.html

The death penalty can only be applied if there are more aggravating than mitigating circumstances.

The aggravating circumstances are that the defendant was:

Already imprisoned when the offense occurred
Previously convicted of a capital offense or violent felony
Created a great risk of death to many people
Committed while engaged in, an accomplice to, or while attempting or fleeing, any robbery, rape, arson, burglary, kidnapping, hijacking, sexual assault, rape of a child under 12, non-consensual sodomy, child abuse, or the unlawful detonation of a bomb
Committed to avoid lawful arrest, escape from custody, hinder lawful government functions, influence policy by coercion or assassination, or for money or other gain
Crime was especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel
Committed to intimate civilians

Mitigating circumstances include that:

The defendant:
Had no significant prior criminal activity
Was under the influence of extreme mental or emotional disturbance
Was merely an accomplice in the capital offense committed by another person and his or her participation was minor
Was under extreme duress or domination by another person
Lacked the ability to appreciate the criminality of his or her conduct or conform his or her conduct to the law
Was very young (but at least 18) or old at the time of the crime

The victim participated in defendant’s conduct or consented to it.

Unless there's something we don't know, I'm not sure how they could prove the aggravating circumstances. OTOH, that he apparently has a concealed-carry permit means he had no significant prior criminal activity, and a really good defense attorney might be able to demonstrate that someone who smokes in restaurants in an era when you can't do that lacks the ability to conform his conduct to the law. I think the prosecutor will go for the easy Life Without Parole sentence - this is definitely a guy who needs to be separated from society forever, and almost any prosecutor could get that.

[Turborama]

60. Prosecution could go for: "Crime was especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel"

[jmowreader]

63. Possibly...

They'd have to convince a jury this particular heinous, atrocious and cruel murder was more heinous, atrocious and cruel than other similar murders that didn't get the murderer a date with a needle. Thing is, this is a relatively popular kind of murder: two people get in an argument and one winds up dead. Unless there's something we haven't been told, LWOP is the best sentence for him.

[Turborama]

69. As the choice is either heinous, atrocious or cruel, it doesn't have to be all 3.

But I get your main point.

[Darb]

49. Seems even the gun-humping, fuck-nuts are

avoiding this one.

Typical. To all our resident humpers, this one and all the others are on you. Own it. Get your asses to this thread and defend your guy.

[SwankyXomb]

52. All the NRA spin is still focused on Colorado Springs

Once they're comfortable with their narrative there, the gun murder apologists will turn to this story.

[doc03]

51. Looks like your typical everyday Republican

voter. Why wasn't any of those good guys with guns there to help her?

[Judi Lynn]

55. Officials ID waitress who was killed over patron's cigarette

Officials ID waitress who was killed over patron's cigarette

. . .

Customer Richard Bonin told The Sun Herald (http://bit.ly/21kZuML) that Brightwell served him and two friends just before she was shot, and asked if they had a good Thanksgiving. "She told us she was tired, but she was making the whole conversation about us," he said.

Brightwell had worked eight years at the restaurant, one of four Waffle House franchises in a 10-mile stretch of U.S. 90 in Biloxi.

Mount was a Biloxi firefighter for 10 years but left after being badly injured in a 2002 traffic accident, Fire Chief Joe Boney said.
Gulfport police said at the time that Mount was hit by a car while he stood in the middle of U.S. 49 about 2:30 a.m. on Christmas Eve. The accident was unavoidable and the driver was not charged, they said.

More:
http://news.yahoo.com/officials-id-waitress-killed-over-patrons-cigarette-222915705.html

[center]

Julie Brightwell [/center]

[MillennialDem]

57. 2Aers: "Good shoot"

[Sancho]

64. People Control, Not Gun Control

Yet another person who should not have possession of a gun. Yet again, here is a process to prevent some of these deaths.

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

[qwlauren35]

66. Restraining order...

guns should be confiscated.

Probably violates the 2nd amendment, but if someone had to take out a restraining order on someone with a gun, that's a disaster waiting to happen.

[Sancho]

67. I can't get into the endless legal debates again...

but if your license was suspended or revoked, then you could not buy guns, ammo, or transport a gun without violating the law. Obviously, we quarantine people too. Presumingly, the restraining order might confiscate the license and/or the guns.

Here are some links and references...

The Second Amendment: A BiographyMay 26, 2015
by Michael Waldman

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/this_is_the_nras_worst_nightmare_the_new_gun_safety_study_that_gun_nuts_dont_want_you_to_hear_about/

http://everytown.org

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/07/24/bullet-initiative-354203.html

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0

http://still4hill.com/2015/10/05/fact-sheet-hillary-clintons-plan-to-address-gun-violence/

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states