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muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:35 PM Nov 2015

Planned Parenthood Shooting Suspect Made Comment About 'No More Baby Parts': Sources

Source: NBC

The day after a gunman killed three people and shot nine others at a Colorado Planned Parenthood office, officials tell NBC News a motive remains unclear, but say the suspect talked about politics and abortion.

Robert Lewis Dear, a North Carolina native who was living in a trailer in Colorado, made statements to police Friday at the scene of the Colorado Springs clinic and in interviews that law enforcement sources described as rantings.

In one statement, made after the suspect was taken in for questioning, Dear said "no more baby parts" in reference to Planned Parenthood, according to two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case.

But the sources stressed that Dear said many things to law enforcement and the extent to which the "baby parts" remark played into any decision to target the Planned Parenthood office was not yet clear. He also mentioned President Barack Obama in statements.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/planned-parenthood-shooting-suspect-made-comment-about-no-more-baby-n470706



Motive sounds pretty damn clear to me. And 'baby parts' ties it to that lying video.
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Planned Parenthood Shooting Suspect Made Comment About 'No More Baby Parts': Sources (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 OP
That's like when they said Dylan Roof's motive was unclear. tblue37 Nov 2015 #1
Exactly. It's as if the media wants to create that initial doubt that will stick in some minds. jalan48 Nov 2015 #2
MSM and government NeoConsSuck Nov 2015 #5
The MSM are not terrified. They are complicit. Different things. nt Chef Eric Nov 2015 #18
No shit! Fritz Walter Nov 2015 #20
Yes, call them what they are, right wing terrorist cowards. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #26
He he, they're not afraid notadmblnd Nov 2015 #48
Exactly Person 2713 Nov 2015 #38
I guess that clears up his motive Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #3
Carly Fiorina should tell the families of the killed question everything Nov 2015 #4
Carly Fiorina and James O'Keefe. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #6
Can charges be brought against them? Stryst Nov 2015 #30
I would really love to see a precedent set here. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #32
I'm sure I'm hopelessly naive, but this sounds like a good idea renate Nov 2015 #37
+1 cui bono Nov 2015 #40
Out of the hundreds of times I've seen someone use 'fire in a theater' TipTok Nov 2015 #44
the right HOPES they can bait people into violence yurbud Nov 2015 #7
Exactly. n/t fasttense Nov 2015 #8
and it seems that 2naSalit Nov 2015 #13
Carly Fiorina, Rush Limbaugh, James O'Keefe, Bill O'Reilly,Breitbart.com, Mike Huckabee,FOX News.... Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2015 #9
^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Nov 2015 #14
They are all complicit. bvf Nov 2015 #33
But there'ss no indication of a motive. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #10
Yesterday, people were telling me "We don't know" shenmue Nov 2015 #11
I am all for free speech, but there are consequences for what is said in public. world wide wally Nov 2015 #12
I am always amazed... TipTok Nov 2015 #45
No more baby parts but it's still unknown as to his motives Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #15
I'm interested in hearing what survivors have to say. nt 2naSalit Nov 2015 #16
Oh I bet you are! nt mentalsolstice Nov 2015 #25
That's an odd response... 2naSalit Nov 2015 #27
Very odd. cui bono Nov 2015 #41
Indeed. 2naSalit Nov 2015 #42
Walks like a duck, feathers like a duck, craps like a duck -- It ain't a poodle! Akamai Nov 2015 #17
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How "Fired Up" Does Rubio Want People To Get? DallasNE Nov 2015 #29
Unclear? elljay Nov 2015 #23
The target might be a clue. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #28
I blame fiorina and the center for medical "progress" liberalnarb Nov 2015 #24
The guy could rage that FOX "News" was his source and NOTHING would be done. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #31
I expect that asshole from Illinois to have his apology ready n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #34
OMG.......OMFG...... Hepburn Nov 2015 #35
Fiorina... SoapBox Nov 2015 #36
Such a surprise. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #39
If an author included this incident and the LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #43
This story is already fading from the media 4dsc Nov 2015 #46
"no more baby parts" ..... thanks a lot Carly Botany Nov 2015 #47
Planned Parenthood says Colorado shooter opposed abortion uppityperson Nov 2015 #49

tblue37

(65,426 posts)
1. That's like when they said Dylan Roof's motive was unclear.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

He spelled it out in big neon lights all over the place, but they just couldn't figure out why he killed those people in church.

NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
5. MSM and government
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

are terrified of right wing terrorists. If it was a leftist terrorist or foreign terrorist, would you be waiting 24 hours for details about the killer?

This is plain and simple, a coverup.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
20. No shit!
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

Terrified and therefore burying it!
Their canned and ever-so-trite response will be: "He's mentally ill."

As if that will wipe the blood off their hands, not to mention the paws of the NRA's so-called leadership. (Please don't get me started on those soul-less fuckers!)

This is painful evidence why we cannot -- must not -- proceed with politics as usual, and business as usual.

2016 is our opportunity to change this alarming, spiraling decline of our culture. It's now or never!

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
48. He he, they're not afraid
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

The right wing terrorists are doing their bidding. MSM and the majority party running this country are fricking encouraging it with their rhetoric. They'd be remiss if some nut job didn't get out their and commit these types of atrocities.

Stryst

(714 posts)
30. Can charges be brought against them?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015

I mean, how is this any different than 'swatting' someone. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting)

They knowingly lied, and someone is dead directly because of it. Yeah, this a**hole pulled the trigger, but who made him think that he had to go be a hero and save all these babies?

Now, I'm no lawyer, but it seems like sedition would actually be the charge to push; "In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. I would really love to see a precedent set here.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:21 PM
Nov 2015

It might restore some civility to this nation's public discourse.

renate

(13,776 posts)
37. I'm sure I'm hopelessly naive, but this sounds like a good idea
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:24 AM
Nov 2015

How is deliberately getting people riled up with lies unlike shouting "fire" in a theater?

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
44. Out of the hundreds of times I've seen someone use 'fire in a theater'
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:58 AM
Nov 2015

I think maybe once it was actually used correctly...

2naSalit

(86,660 posts)
13. and it seems that
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:32 PM
Nov 2015

about every week or so they succeed. I have nothing positive to say about any of that gang.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
9. Carly Fiorina, Rush Limbaugh, James O'Keefe, Bill O'Reilly,Breitbart.com, Mike Huckabee,FOX News....
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:23 PM
Nov 2015

You built that.

And I'm sure we can count on our illustrious "lib'rul media" to hold them accountable for pushing the lies and smears.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. They are all complicit.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

High-priced legal counsel be damned. They are all just as responsible as if they had pulled the trigger themselves.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
11. Yesterday, people were telling me "We don't know"
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015


Lying fucks. Anyone with a lick of sense knew why, the second they heard about it.

world wide wally

(21,748 posts)
12. I am all for free speech, but there are consequences for what is said in public.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

I wouldn't be opposed to some kind of consequences for public figures who deliberately pass on lies that could incite others to violence.
Hear that Carly,Rush,..et al?

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
45. I am always amazed...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:02 AM
Nov 2015

That folks who want to determine legal and illegal speech always assume the rule makers will agree with them.

2naSalit

(86,660 posts)
27. That's an odd response...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015

I kind of wonder what you mean by it.

I don't want to speculate on so little evidence, though I do suspect that a lot of the outrage is probably correct in it's roots. I think more and valuable information will come out when the survivors of the event start telling their stories.

If your comment is based on snark, please go peddle that stuff elsewhere.

2naSalit

(86,660 posts)
42. Indeed.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:09 AM
Nov 2015

As I read through the comments I noticed a lot of usernames I haven't seen around here before, some kind of vicious.

I think that it's not too soon to have another conversation about gun policy but it is too soon to pass judgement here. If only some would stop and consider if it were someone they cared about as the shooter and look at how they sound with those comments...

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
17. Walks like a duck, feathers like a duck, craps like a duck -- It ain't a poodle!
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015

All these f--ing PP opponents are looking for is temporary plausible deniability. And these insane asshats are hoping people will forget the issues, lose the issues in the distractive sounds, etc.

What terrible putzes the RW anti-PP jerks are!

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DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
29. How "Fired Up" Does Rubio Want People To Get?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:05 PM
Nov 2015

It seems as though they are already far too fired up. And this just shows how dangerous inflammatory propaganda videos can be.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
23. Unclear?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:41 PM
Nov 2015

We can't infer a motive from his talking about abortion, "no more baby parts" and attacking a Planned Parenthood, but we can infer a motive from someone shooting up a theater while screaming Allahu Akhbar?

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
24. I blame fiorina and the center for medical "progress"
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:44 PM
Nov 2015

They blood on their hands. Lying and fearmongering is a dangerous habit

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
43. If an author included this incident and the
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:29 AM
Nov 2015

media's reaction to it in a fictional story and submitted it to a publisher, it would be rejected out of hand as implausible. A shooter at Planned Parenthood is heard to rant against "baby parts," and the press fails to make the connection. Ridiculous.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
46. This story is already fading from the media
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

The Des Moines Register for one hasn't updated its story since it first aired. How sad.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
47. "no more baby parts" ..... thanks a lot Carly
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:50 AM
Nov 2015

Carly has blood on her hands today.

Carly, Cruz, Hannity, Fox News, and all the other mother fuckers who pushed
lies about selling "baby parts" and what P.P. really does have blood on their hands
too.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
49. Planned Parenthood says Colorado shooter opposed abortion
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TH05O20151129
Planned Parenthood said on Sunday that news reports that the gunman who attacked its Colorado health clinic had uttered "no more baby parts" during his arrest showed that the suspect was motivated by an anti-abortion agenda.

The remark attributed to the suspect, identified by police as Robert Lewis Dear, was an apparent reference to Planned Parenthood's abortion activities and its role in delivering fetal tissue to medical researchers, a hot button issue in the 2016 race for the presidency.

"We now know the man responsible for the tragic shooting at PP's health center in Colorado was motivated by opposition to safe and legal abortion," the organization said on Twitter....



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