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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:51 PM Nov 2015

U.S. Stops Snowden-Exposed Collecting Of Phone Metadata, Irking Security Hawks

Source: Japan Times



WASHINGTON – The U.S. government has halted its controversial program to collect vast troves of information from Americans’ phone calls, a move prompted by the revelations of former intelligence analyst Edward Snowden.

Privacy advocates and some tech firms are welcoming the end of the bulk gathering of so-called metadata, but some security hawks fear law enforcement will be hampered in their efforts to thwart terror attacks.

As of Sunday, the National Security Agency (NSA) ended the program whose existence its former analyst Snowden revealed in 2013.

U.S. lawmakers earlier this year passed legislation known as the USA Freedom Act to stop the program and roll back some powers the NSA had gained under the Patriot Act in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Read more: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/12/01/world/crime-legal-world/u-s-stops-snowden-exposed-collecting-phone-metadata-irking-security-hawks/#.Vl0KaeJuonk

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U.S. Stops Snowden-Exposed Collecting Of Phone Metadata, Irking Security Hawks (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2015 OP
you mean the evil USA actually has a democratic process that responded to a national debate? uhnope Nov 2015 #1
You're not very good at this are you? eom Purveyor Dec 2015 #19
Anyone who thinks this program isn't continuing underground is fooling themselves. onehandle Nov 2015 #2
The perpetually disgruntled stay that way. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #4
Actually Easier than the ones here in Minnesota Rotegard Dec 2015 #8
OMG Skittles Dec 2015 #12
Well yes but its changed in that the phone companies are the ones going to be cstanleytech Dec 2015 #9
If FISA judges hand out warrants like halloween candy, hughee99 Dec 2015 #11
Its a step hugh and an important one and hopefully one day the government will not cstanleytech Dec 2015 #15
I'm not against it, but with warrants so easy to get, and the fact that this was done, basically, hughee99 Dec 2015 #18
So that bastard Obama did what now?? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #3
you really only care how it reflects on Obama? Skittles Dec 2015 #13
Wait, I've been told by DUers that this program was great, legal riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #5
thank you for finding the most hilariously biased article on this important news uhnope Nov 2015 #6
Yeah right newfie11 Nov 2015 #7
Edward Snowden is a Patriot... AzDar Dec 2015 #10
thank you Edward Snowden. grasswire Dec 2015 #14
....x10+ 840high Dec 2015 #16
Yes. Thank you Edward Snowden. nt elias49 Dec 2015 #17
Sure they did ... and I got a nice little bridge to sell you's in New Jersey.. NotHardly Dec 2015 #20
It only means... Helen Borg Dec 2015 #21
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
1. you mean the evil USA actually has a democratic process that responded to a national debate?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:55 PM
Nov 2015

I bet Snowden wishes he lived in such a place lol

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Anyone who thinks this program isn't continuing underground is fooling themselves.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:56 PM
Nov 2015

All Snowden did was make security agencies better at covering their tracks.

His reward: A lifetime of Russian winters.

cstanleytech

(26,297 posts)
9. Well yes but its changed in that the phone companies are the ones going to be
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:24 AM
Dec 2015

keeping the data now and the government is going to be required to get a warrant now to run a trace on a phone which imo is an improvement.

cstanleytech

(26,297 posts)
15. Its a step hugh and an important one and hopefully one day the government will not
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:27 AM
Dec 2015

need to have access to this information at all, probably wont be within my lifetime of course but I have hope it will happen one day.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. I'm not against it, but with warrants so easy to get, and the fact that this was done, basically,
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:23 AM
Dec 2015

voluntarily, my concern is that the next administration and congress will sneak it back in.

In the end, what I suspect will happen is that the NSA will create an organization (not officially part of the NSA) that will sell "cloud storage" which these companies will end up using and we'll be, in essence, paying the NSA to keep all sorts of private data on all of us. Since the company (or companies) would be able to pay for itself, it won't show up on congressional funding anywhere and they'll be no oversight.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Wait, I've been told by DUers that this program was great, legal
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:03 PM
Nov 2015
everyone Knew about it already, old hat and harmless...

Why are they stopping such a legit, excellent, necessary program then?







 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. thank you for finding the most hilariously biased article on this important news
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

the Kremlin couldn't do any better. Oh, wait...

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
20. Sure they did ... and I got a nice little bridge to sell you's in New Jersey..
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:15 AM
Dec 2015

... so, still believing everything they post on the intertubes I see.

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