Clinton rallies with female Senate Democrats _ except Warren

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By KEN THOMAS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Linking arms in a Capitol Hill ballroom, Hillary Clinton received a public embrace Monday from 13 female Democratic senators who praised her as a trailblazing leader ready to be president. But there was one noticeable absence: Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Clinton joined with a power base of female Senate Democrats, who said a second Clinton in the White House would ensure that generations of young women would view a female president as a normal course of American progress — a notion Clinton welcomed.

"If you're ready for me, I'm ready for you," Clinton said on a stage that included 13 chairs — one for each senator.

Clinton has locked up dozens of endorsements from governors and members of Congress. Monday's fundraising event with 1,000 supporters served notice to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Clinton's main rival, who has served with many of the same female lawmakers for years.

FULL story at link.


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks at the Atlantic Council Women's Leadership in Latin America Initiative in Washington, Monday, Nov. 30, 2015. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

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[ericson00]

1. Liz Warren needs to get off her high horse:

she's only making an idiot of herself. Bernie has zero chance for the nomination and she's not increasing her "influence," she's just antagonizing the Clintons.

[jalan48]

3. I think Warren is just very principled.

[Snow Leopard]

13. I agree

I so wish she ran. This gender card stuff is bullshit.

[daybranch]

38. Yep, what next- proof of female antomy as a litmus test of presidential suitability?

The appeal to sexism (female gender bias in this case) is the central platform in the Clinton campaign. Man bad, woman good, get it. It is time for women and feminist organizations to start calling her on it. Warren was not there because she does not want to help Wall Street or their candidate. For a senator elected on her anti-Wall Street/Big Bank record to stand up with a person who has aligned themselves with Wall Street. Thank you Senator Warren for not being a hypocrite.
Geez, doesn't a Sanders/Warren ticket sound good?

[Cal33]

77. Perhaps Hillary Clinton and the female Dem. senators are unwittingly pushing

Liz Warren to consider running with Bernie Sanders.

[bvf]

20. You know it.

I was disappointed she chose not to run, but believe Sanders is equally principled.

Lots of uproar about this in some quarters, no doubt.

[Rose Siding]

34. And no other woman in the Senate is principled?

Liz can do as she likes, as is her right. I'm sure it's unintended, but throwing all the other Democratic women under the bus suggests a bias on your part. Can you clarify?

[daybranch]

41. Unfortunately it is not too clear that they are.

Warren came in making waves and has not stopped.. I get the distinct impression most go along with the oligarchy to get along and keep their rich donors. The silence of the other women in the Senate on economic issues, issues that reallly affect the oligarchy, has been deafening.

[jalan48]

44. Wall Street cheerleader Warren is not.

[Capt.Rocky300]

4. "antagonizing the Clintons"......

Really? No one should antagonize the Clinton's? Why not? Do we have retribution to fear? Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

[Proserpina]

29. Look at your Clinton history and you can answer that yourself

[Jackilope]

5. Good for Sen. Warren! Nice to see not all are sell outs.

One Democratic candidate is about the people. The other is a Corporate shill and hawk.

If principles about people is "high horse" position, then things are mighty messed up.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

16. Someone should dismount from Rafalca

Its 'not your turn'.

[riversedge]

32. It is shameful that you would name call good Democratic Senators as "sell-outs"

[Jackilope]

33. To be clear, if one is beholden to Corporations vs people ...

... then Democratic principles are indeed being sold out. Feinstein has a history of it.

[comradebillyboy]

87. How many dem senators have endorsed

Bernie? Why none have because Bernie has never supported the election of any democratic candidates. Bernie's campaign is about Bernie, not helping others get elected, not taking back the senate, not doing anything down ballot..

[leftynyc]

37. Throwing ALL the women senators

except Warren under the bus and calling them sellouts because they DARE to support someone you don't like. Thank you for putting it all out there for everyone to see clearly.

[Jackilope]

68. You are correct, that might be too harsh....

There are a few in the list that did not vote for the TPP Fast Track. Quite a few did.

http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2015/06/so-who-voted-for-tpp-fast-track-in-the-senate-list/

My issue with HRC is the beholden to Corporate interests above people. My disappointment is that we could have fearless, courageous progressive Democratic Party members, but the party has definitely moved further to the right. Corporate stranglehold is in both parties.

My other observation is the lining up and pushing gender. I am female, yet it does kind of annoy me that this is a "see us ladies stick together?" type gimmick, complete with the "Gasp, Warren didn't join our clique" sensationalism.

Gender isn't an issue. Being the right candidate is. I wasn't sold on HRC in 2008, and still have reservations and trust issues with her for 2016. If banks and Wall St. are chill with Hill, that is a huge red flag.

[Omaha Steve]

92. Here is that list with 6 female D's

[Pharaoh]

6. she has values

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. Yeah,....that Warren is too uppity....

And a traitor to her sex.

[Cal33]

80. Sex should have nothing at all to do with one's choice of a political candidate. The

most important reason for choosing any candidate is whether or not you approve
of his/her political views.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

81. I remember when issues mattered.

[CharlotteVale]

9. How is this "antagonizing" the Clintons? Are you saying

they will retaliate against her? Because that's sure what it sounds like you're saying.

[Fearless]

10. Some people aren't for sale.

[MeNMyVolt]

11. I think they're both saving it for the perfect time.

Two very smart people.

[joshcryer]

25. This is the correct answer.

Warren "represents" the far left (inexplicably since she's a moderate and mostly a demagogue). She's not going to burn that by being any where near Clinton until she deems it necessary and can capitalize on it.

[SoapBox]

12. ANTAGONIZING the Clintons!!!!!

Oh GAWD forbid.....don't anyone ever do that!

[roguevalley]

15. Last time I looked no one had to endorse anyone. The only

idiots that there are on this issue are those who forget that simple fact. Go, ELIZABETH!

[Javaman]

17. High horse, huh...

well played.

[Kelvin Mace]

18. High horse?

Some people just don't want to lend their name and tacit support to HRC. Perhaps HRC should be more picky in who she associates with?

[Beacool]

22. A then SOS with a former SOS at an offcial event.

[bread_and_roses]

48. Oh, please - COURTESY may be required - but embracing?

I don't think so. I imagine their mutual love of cluster bombs makes them such good buds.

[Beacool]

73. Yes, she should have just spit in the old man's face.

Gee.........

[Kelvin Mace]

58. Does courtesy extend to praising Kissinger in a book review?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-reviews-henry-kissingers-world-order/2014/09/04/b280c654-31ea-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html

Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels. Though we have often seen the world and some of our challenges quite differently, and advocated different responses now and in the past, what comes through clearly in this new book is a conviction that we, and President Obama, share: a belief in the indispensability of continued American leadership in service of a just and liberal order.

In any truly "just" society, Kissinger would be in jail, and HRC's political career would have tanked for praising him.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

36. Liberal icon and former President Jimmy Carter

discussing the issues in Panama in 1977 on the White House patio with Henry Kissinger.

[Kelvin Mace]

57. That was before the scope and depth of Kissinger's crimes

were made public. Also, he had been his predecessor's SoS, so there would be reason for him to speak to Kissinger. Carter is not on record writing fawning reviews of his book, and praising him as HRC did.

Nice try.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

86. So, it's OK for Carter to take advice on international affairs from Kissinger

but not OK for Hillary to be at an event with him and have a photo taken?

Gotcha.

[Kelvin Mace]

88. One more time

Carter was consulting with Nixon's SoS, who was right in the middle of a major U.S. conflict for years. Kissinger's war crimes didn't come out with solid evidence until after Carter left office.

HRC has courted him, written a fawning review of his book, and specifically said of him:

"Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels."

She considers a man with the blood of MILLIONS on his hands "a friend" and someone she RELIES on for "counsel".

So, either she cannot see his crimes, or she sanctions his crimes.

Neither recommend her for the presidency.

[daybranch]

45. A picture of the greatest traitor of my lifetime

White House papers revealed Kissinger while working for Johnson covertly worked with Nixon to subvert the peace process and this resulted in many many thousands of American deaths not to mention Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, and Chinese. As a combat veteran of both Vietnam and Cambodia, I despise him and anyone who would be shown with him is either demonstrating poor judgement or just total disdain for our lost servicemen.

[Kelvin Mace]

59. And HRC considers him

" a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels."

Again, demonstrates her complete lack of judgement.

[davidpdx]

21. Maybe she'll be labeled a Benedict Arnold like Bill Richardson was in 2008

Warren has the right to back anyone she wants at any time she wants. Hell if she wanted to wait until the convention to decide she could. Saying she has to do it now is pure bullshit on your part and shows what an ass you are.

[Beacool]

24. No, he was called Judas by Carville.

In Richardson's case, the self serving weasel deserved it. He was Bill's friend and he lied to him. The Clinton camp will not be upset with Warren, she's a fellow politician but not a close friend.

[davidpdx]

30. Despite what Carville thought at the time Richardson had the right to support anyone he choose to

Certainly Richardson wasn't a crucial blow to the Clinton campaign then. There were larger endorsements than him that made a difference. Why they chose to attack him is beyond me.

[Beacool]

75. I'm not going to go into detail here over what went on.

Suffice it to say that Bill considered Richardson a close friend and he lied to Bill. He is the only prominent Democrat who supported Obama who Bill still refuses to have anything to do with, and I don't blame him. Political alliances and betrayals are common, it's a backstabbing and self serving profession, but when a friend betrays you it's personal.

[joshcryer]

26. The responses to your comment prove the exact opposite.

By not rallying around Clinton she is doing what the far left approves of. She just won points with that group by doing this. It's good politics.

[mr_liberal]

28. Warren is a party insider.

Im sure she has already committed to Hillary. The Hillary campaign is just waiting for the right time to use her.

[George II]

60. The question is, which party?

[magical thyme]

31. she's just antagonizing the Clintons?

Like "how dare she not endorse me?"

Maybe she's just not planning to endorse anybody.

[bread_and_roses]

35. OK! Under the bus with Warren! (n/t)

[leftynyc]

39. Au contraire

It seems it's the Bernie supporters that are throwing ALL the women senators other than Warren under the bus - saying Warren is the only one with principles, she's the only one not a sell out - pretty fucking disgusting.

[bread_and_roses]

49. I guess the truth hurts (n/t)

[leftynyc]

50. Keep talking

Keep throwing everyone that disagrees under the bus. Your best hope is that people wont judge your candidate by his supporters.

[bread_and_roses]

56. The 1%ers threw me and mine under the bus a long time ago

So, no, I have no respect or regard for anyone on their team - and that includes HRC and the electeds supporting her.

And i sure as hell hope that people do look at who's supporting who - then they can decide for themselves which represents them - HRC's line up of Corporate ghouls and parasite 1%ers or Bernie's myriad of ordinary people.

[leftynyc]

63. Be sure to stay home

and pout if Bernie isn't the nominee. Although you will have made yourself completely irrelevant, nothing else would be pure enough.

[bread_and_roses]

66. Oh, ROFL - name calling much?

So I'm a pouter, eh? I think that's hilarious. Guess what? I like unicorns and rainbows too

I have never and will never "pull a lever" for a R - my Roosevelt Dem mother made sure all of us knew that the Rs were never and would never be friends of workers - but I left the Democratic Party once I grew up enough to understand that a good deed over here does not in any way offset the children blown to bits by cluster bombs over there. And that supporting, say, reproductive choice does not in any way make up for destroying the safety net for millions of women and their children.

I will not support a bad candidate. And a bad candidate includes one who supports cluster bombs, who is already so beholden to her Bankster Buds that she can't even support a living minimum wage - just for starters.

I have to go to a meeting - we're planning two local actions - I get tired sometimes, having been at this for 45+ years, but we raging grannies feel one must go on. So you feel free to have the last word.

[Chef Eric]

53. Indeed. The impudence!

Doesn't she understand that she OWES the party her endorsement of Clinton?

Nobody must antagonize Clinton. Nobody!

[LanternWaste]

64. The pretense that maintaining one's convictions is sitting atop a high horse...

The pretense that maintaining one's convictions is sitting atop a high horse must be rather convenient for the irrational mind to settle on.

[pangaia]

76. Warren doesn't need a horse !

She stands by her principles.
She is not concerned with increasing her influence.
Bernie has every chance in the world to be the next president.

See, that's the difference. Warren will not endorse Clinton because ....
God I just can't keep going.

In my view, everything you say is exactly what is wrong!

THAT is why Warren will not endorse Clinton and THAT is why I will support Sanders regardless of his chances.
HE wants to make things RIGHT.
Clinton wants to be president.

[yurbud]

91. so do you care about any economic, budget, or foreign policy issues? Or do you just like the horse

race?

[Trajan]

2. And here we are thinking of DUMPING our 'Liberal' Democratic Senator for his support of TPP

The Senate has become a den of thieves ... I am not impressed ...

How about a public embrace of a homeless woman ? ....

Let's embrace a $15 minimum wage ?

I love the idea of a woman sitting in the highest seat of public office, but please, let it be one who actually CARES about regular citizens ....

[Pharaoh]

7. ^^This^^

[joshcryer]

27. Who is your Senator? Wyden?

I know Wyden supports it because Oregon is a port state and he thinks it will benefit them a lot.

[SoapBox]

14. She's got all those tired Entrenched Establishment types "locked" up...

But we're gonna have millions and millions of voters.

[andrewv1]

19. I would tell Hillary Supporters....

to either find a new candidate or support Sanders. Otherwise, outside of rigging the election (Which I admit she can do since she is basically just another Rethug in Drag) she'll just lose to "Orange Hair" Trump or "Smirky" Cruz in the General.
You decide, because most of the Progressive Base & Millennials "ain't" coming out to vote for her.

[Beacool]

23. So, it's either Sanders or the crybabies stay home?

If that's the case, then they are nothing more than fools who deserve a Republican president.

[andrewv1]

43. No, I said find another candidate....

We'll go over this again....Clinton has an unfavorable rating of over 50% & history has shown that doesn't get you elected in the General. And of course she'll bring her continuing baggage of donor issues & email investigations with her through November. Warren? Biden? Let's all look @ a Candidate that can unite the Democratic Party. I do know Wall Street & the Defense Industry love her, but if she were to get elected somehow why do I what to be robbed more or have WW III start?
No Thanks.

[Beacool]

70. I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I don't care what they do. I'm just pointing out that it's foolish not to support the nominee, whether it be Hillary or Sanders. There's too much at risk to have a snit and stay home or vote third party. Principles are a great thing, but not so good if they help elect a Republican.

[leftynyc]

40. And this Clinton supporter

will laugh in your face. When the millennials prove they'll get off their asses and vote once in a while, perhaps your empty threat wont be so empty. Anyone who stays home and pouts isn't worth the time of day.

[andrewv1]

74. What Threat?

I know you might live in an alternate reality, but it's very simple...14% of Democrats say under no condition will they won't vote for her. Almost 50% of Independents will not either. So, just do the math.
Do you think even if the FBI Email Investigation is closed everybody all of a sudden will love Hillary?
Hell, she & her husband with all their campaigning in Kentucky in the Mid-Terms, found a way to keep voters @ home & reelect unpopular Mitch McConnell.
Another point to mention here is most of Sander's Supporters were for Warren earlier & it wasn't hard to get them over. Don't you think there might be a third party candidate who could run in the General if Sanders isn't the nominee?
Again, as I said previously, you need another Democrat like Warren or maybe Gore to inspire all the different factions to win the White House & I would be making plans now.
Outside the donors, minorities & the party establishment, there is more than just a dislike for the woman.
I'm sorry, but's it's just reality.

[leftynyc]

82. Yawwwnnnn

I remember hearing the same crap during the reelection campaign for Pres Obama. I also remember the McGovern campaign and will fight all day, every day, to make sure that doesn't happen to the Democrats again.

[andrewv1]

90. First off all, there's no...

parallels to McGovern & Sanders.
That's a very weak argument that I've heard before that Clinton supporters want to hang onto (yawn).
The poll recently taken is very clear that Sanders beats Trump & Bush by a wide margin.
So it gets back that Hillary is the problem.
I think I would look more @ the parallels of Clinton to Mondale/Dukakis.
DOA

[Doctor_J]

42. But none of her support is because she's female!

- read on du

[SmittynMo]

46. 13 of 14 "FEMALE" senators support Clinton?

That don't sound sexist, does it? And the corruptness in Washington just keeps on keepin on. Support the status quo. Don't think outside the box!!!

Warren is the farthest thing from being sexist. She wants to support the BEST candidate, which just so happens to line up with Bernie's agenda. It will be interesting who she actually supports in the end.

[Earth_First]

47. Won't be Clinton'd... n/t

[fbc]

51. It will be sad if someone like Hillary Clinton is the first female president

What kind of cynical message does that send to young women? "You can be president, but only if you marry the right man and sell your soul to the corporate aristocracy"

How great would it be if a true role model, someone like Elizabeth Warren, became the first female president?

[Nitram]

69. FBC, I think you really believe that Clinton is a horrible, evil person.

But I also think you are the cynical one. I think she'd make a great liberal president, and is an excellent model for all young men and women. She has fought for the rights of workers and minorities all her life.

[Beacool]

72. I can't believe that on a Democratic site I have to read the same crap as spewed by the RW.

They are the ones who always claim that Hillary would be nothing without Bill. Maybe Bill would have never made it to the WH without her. Did they ever think of that? He was quite undisciplined in his personal life. She is the one who steered his political ship.

[Beacool]

71. Sexist bullsh**.

Hillary was the star at Yale, before Bill even stepped foot through its portals. She was the one who had been featured in Life magazine due to her commencement speech at Wellesley. Hillary was a year ahead of Bill. When they graduated, she was offered jobs at top firms in NY and DC. It was deemed as a step back for her to move to AR to be with Bill. He came from a dysfunctional home and the family was financially below the Rodhams. Bill married up, not the other way around.

Furthermore, Hillary has had many "first" in her life. She would be a fine example as the first woman president.

[MeNMyVolt]

79. +1 n/t

[Attorney in Texas]

52. Note how reporting about Clinton campaign events is "Latest Breaking News" - reporting about Sanders

campaign events gets locked.

If this thread were about a Sanders event, it would have been shut down already.

[JoePhilly]

55. If Bernie had 13 of the 14 female senators backing him ...

... that would be news.

[comradebillyboy]

89. If Bernie even had one senator

supporting him it would be news.

[George II]

61. The event in this OP occurred on the day this was posted, not days, weeks, or even YEARS after....

...like some people do.

[Android3.14]

54. The invitation's message of "Or else I will get you" was silent

But we all know it was there.

I knew rich entitled vengeful girls like Clinton in high school.

And I knew a few brave girls with Warren's kind ethical strength and I knew stalwart young men like Bernie Sanders in high school too.

[mylye2222]

62. K&R.

And I side with Liz.
She sound a person whi cares most about principles that "popularity needs".
Bernie/Liz 2016.

[hollowdweller]

78. I think Warren is maybe wait and see

If you look at a lot of what Clinton has said since she's running, she's said a lot of the right things from an Elizabeth Warren perspective.

I think maybe Clinton is a much more ask the rich and powerful to pay people more, be more honest, and mend the social safety net where Warren thinks it should be mandated. I believe Warren is a bit more of a dove than Clinton too.

So I think maybe Warren is going to set the primary out. She could hurt Clinton by endorsing Sanders but doesn't look like she will.

My guess is given the history, that Warren is like waiting to see if Clinton walks the walk when she becomes president.

If Clinton wins and then actually makes good on a lot of the populist ideas she's been floating Warren will be behind her on them.

[Attorney in Texas]

83. I love how Clinton campaign rallies are "Important news of national interest" and Sanders campaign

rallies are not "Important news of national interest."

No double standard here. Nothing to see. Please disburse.

[Nitram]

84. Attorney, why are you repeating the same tired trope?

You still haven't successfully answered the criticism the first time you posted it.

[Attorney in Texas]

85. There is a double standard. Post news about the Clinton campaign and it is "news" but post news

about the Sanders campaign, and it gets locked pursuant to a subjective standard that is applied in a biased fashion.

Simply count the percentage of threads locked which report on the Clinton campaign (or the Trump campaign or the Cruz campaign, etc.) versus the percentage threads locked which report on the Sanders campaign. Reports on Clinton's campaign are encouraged while reports on the Sanders campaign are discouraged.