Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

riversedge

(70,243 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:34 PM Dec 2015

Mysterious Corpse-Filled 'Ghost Ships' Found Drifting Off Japan

Source: HuffingtonPost



Mysterious Corpse-Filled 'Ghost Ships' Found Drifting Off Japan
The boats appear to have come from North Korea.

Ed Mazza
Overnight Editor, The Huffington Post

Posted: 12/01/2015 04:26 AM EST

Nearly a dozen wooden boats carrying decomposing bodies have been found in the waters off the coast of Japan over the past two months.

Inside the 11 vessels were at least 25 bodies, according to Japanese broadcaster NHK. Two bodies were headless, and one boat contained six skulls, .............


One of the boats had a tattered banner that looked like it could have been part of a North Korean flag. The boat also had a board with .......................

"They are made of wood and are old and heavy," Yoshihiko Yamada told NHK. ......................


.................."I would say that defectors would be the most likely explanation, and the fact that there have been so many cases in such a short space of time is worrying because it suggests there is serious instability just below the surface in North Korea," Jun Okumura, a visiting scholar at the Meiji Institute for Global Affairs, told the Telegraph.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/japan-ghost-ships_565d53e3e4b072e9d1c31702?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000017

31 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Mysterious Corpse-Filled 'Ghost Ships' Found Drifting Off Japan (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2015 OP
How horrible. n/t fasttense Dec 2015 #1
or maybe the North Korean government is behind this dlwickham Dec 2015 #2
Sounds like refugees from NK who died at sea. yardwork Dec 2015 #14
Headless??? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #20
If they were not all mutilated jberryhill Dec 2015 #28
Unfortunately, that was my thought too. Very ugly no matter why it happened. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #29
Bodiless? morningfog Dec 2015 #26
Isn't this what happened just before the original Godzilla made his first public appearance? randome Dec 2015 #3
I remember the Vietnamese Boat People in the 70's Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #4
Sounds like the plot of a bad movie... Moostache Dec 2015 #5
Why would they waste a ship, even an old one, to set them adrift? valerief Dec 2015 #7
NK reported another 100 yr drought last summer:-( riversedge Dec 2015 #8
I imagine that they were refugees who died at sea. yardwork Dec 2015 #15
but strange some were decapitated. riversedge Dec 2015 #30
I think that would happen naturally as the bodies decomposed. yardwork Dec 2015 #31
those are old fishing boats, nets and hooks and lights to fish squid & someone killed the crews. Sunlei Dec 2015 #6
not sure what headless has to do with this... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #9
To me it implies an unnatural death marshall Dec 2015 #11
Or the food situation became desperate jberryhill Dec 2015 #27
cause of death would be important to know dembotoz Dec 2015 #10
I'd also be worried about diseases. haele Dec 2015 #13
yeah dembotoz Dec 2015 #25
Sounds like pirates. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #12
Last week's news. GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #16
oh cindyperry2010 Dec 2015 #17
"The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" comes to mind. DemoTex Dec 2015 #18
Both horrible and creepy. Ivan Kaputski Dec 2015 #19
Yes Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #23
Maybe this is how Li'l Kim gets rid of inconvenient people. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #21
strange JI7 Dec 2015 #22
Thus starts the zombie apocalypse... Thor_MN Dec 2015 #24
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Isn't this what happened just before the original Godzilla made his first public appearance?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
Dec 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
[/center][/font][hr]

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. I remember the Vietnamese Boat People in the 70's
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
Dec 2015

Things must be very bad for people to take such desperate acts to escape.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. Sounds like the plot of a bad movie...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:42 PM
Dec 2015

Bram Stoker's Dracula Part 2 or something awful like that.

In all seriousness, if the North Korean government is executing people, decapitating them and setting their bodies adrift it is no joking matter. Everywhere I look these days its a world gone mad. I get the feeling we are all going to witness something really bad in the coming years as climate change really begins impacting the regions most vulnerable to it and you have to believe that a place like North Korea, being so isolated and cut-off, is going to be a canary in the coal mine...

valerief

(53,235 posts)
7. Why would they waste a ship, even an old one, to set them adrift?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

Why wouldn't they just burn them? They wouldn't be found if they did that. Or did they want them to be found? If so, why?

I agree. Bad movie plot.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
15. I imagine that they were refugees who died at sea.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:06 PM
Dec 2015

Their bodies decomposed while the boats floated in the current.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. those are old fishing boats, nets and hooks and lights to fish squid & someone killed the crews.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:48 PM
Dec 2015

All the countries out there are doing a lot of killings at sea, it must be horrible to be a fisherman from NK. All the other countries probably target them first.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
9. not sure what headless has to do with this...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

Just an aside, but why do people get so freaked out over decapitation? The french thought of it as a humane way to execute prisoners. very quick. There are many, many, worse ways to die.

Anyway, it has nothing to do with the ships other than it adds a little mystery.

I don't think nk is known for piracy, and if it were a gov't killing I would think they would have just shot them and been done with it. There is no real political purpose to leaving them adrift never to be seen again. This was just brutality for some unknown reason. Probably criminal more than political. definitely bizarre.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
11. To me it implies an unnatural death
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:21 PM
Dec 2015

They might be mistaken for unlucky emigrants who were fleeing the horrors of North Korea but got lost at sea and starved to death, if not for the fact that some of them are headless and others are body-less.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
10. cause of death would be important to know
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:51 PM
Dec 2015

remember stories where countries would shift people from other areas and put them on farms
sort of a massive resettlement.

thinking china under mao
cambodia under the kmer rouge
russia under stalin

and not to be too political would should add prison work farms in this county

haele

(12,660 posts)
13. I'd also be worried about diseases.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

I wouldn't put it past a superstitious culture that believes that the outside world infects their "perfect society" to get rid of a plague-stricken segment of their population by killing them and then setting their bodies adrift on old boats.

They might also be sending the bodies foreigners of Asian descent that had died in their work-camps out of the country rather than bury them in-country; in such a case, the officials sending them out may believe that beheading would be a method to hinder identification and buy them time.

Haele

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
25. yeah
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

disease struck me too.

remember stories about middle ages how diseased animals were catapulted into fortresses

JI7

(89,252 posts)
22. strange
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:33 PM
Dec 2015

I can believe the govt killed them but i can't see any they would put them out like that.

Maybe it was some in govt or even others want the world to know and trying to hurt the govt.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Mysterious Corpse-Filled ...