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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:20 PM Dec 2015

Zuckerberg & wife announce plan to donate 99% of their $FB shares

Source: Business Insider

to "advancing human potential and promoting equality"

Along with his daughter's birth, Mark Zuckerberg announced today that he will give away 99 percent of his Facebook shares, valued at around $45 billion today, to charity during his life time.

Zuckerberg and his wife, Priscilla Chan, created the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.

The Facebook CEO announced his donation in a letter to his newborn daughter, Max.

Today your mother and I are committing to spend our lives doing our small part to help solve these challenges. I will continue to serve as Facebook's CEO for many, many years to come, but these issues are too important to wait until you or we are older to begin this work. By starting at a young age, we hope to see compounding benefits throughout our lives.
As you begin the next generation of the Chan Zuckerberg family, we also begin the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative to join people across the world to advance human potential and promote equality for all children in the next generation. Our initial areas of focus will be personalized learning, curing disease, connecting people and building strong communities.
We will give 99% of our Facebook shares -- currently about $45 billion -- during our lives to advance this mission. We know this is a small contribution compared to all the resources and talents of those already working on these issues. But we want to do what we can, working alongside many others.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-giving-away-99-of-his-facebook-shares-2015-12

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Zuckerberg & wife announce plan to donate 99% of their $FB shares (Original Post) tishaLA Dec 2015 OP
Good for them! fbc Dec 2015 #1
I hope it's not to advance human resource potential and to promote equality valerief Dec 2015 #2
But he's still a 1%er so we don't like him, right? brooklynite Dec 2015 #3
Heh.I read that even with the 99% gien away he's still tishaLA Dec 2015 #6
We can like him AND dislike the economic system that disproportionately rewarded his contribution Taitertots Dec 2015 #13
Well I keep reading here that "behind every fortune is a great crime". Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #15
After he gives away 99% of his stock... BlueCheese Dec 2015 #17
in other words, if you have facebook stock, SELL! nt Javaman Dec 2015 #4
Why? It will have no affect on FB's share price. former9thward Dec 2015 #11
jeez. Javaman Dec 2015 #22
Congratulations to Mr Zuckerberg and Ms. Chan Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #5
Fine, but why should society's health ride on the whim of yet another un(der)-taxed billionaire? PSPS Dec 2015 #7
+1 moondust Dec 2015 #9
you would prefer he was another Donald Trump? olddad56 Dec 2015 #12
I'd prefer he, and his Capital Gains, were taxed progressively maxsolomon Dec 2015 #14
$45 billion in value isn't $45 billion rocktivity Dec 2015 #8
trending #1 right now on Twitter L. Coyote Dec 2015 #10
The cynical part of me jamzrockz Dec 2015 #16
Not impressed. I know how he does his business. jmowreader Dec 2015 #18
Don't sign up for Facebook. Action_Patrol Dec 2015 #24
Why doesn't he just do it? Detester Dec 2015 #19
It's not like people wouldn't find out after awhile Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #21
You notice that almost all the 1% billionaires set up foundations. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #20
You should seriously consider jamzrockz Dec 2015 #23

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
6. Heh.I read that even with the 99% gien away he's still
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:58 PM
Dec 2015

twice as rich as Romney.

I don't care. He's doing a good thing

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
13. We can like him AND dislike the economic system that disproportionately rewarded his contribution
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:15 PM
Dec 2015

I don't remember when we started having to dislike every 1%er. I must have missed the memo.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. Well I keep reading here that "behind every fortune is a great crime".
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:33 PM
Dec 2015

Sometimes I reply to ask what crime was involved in writing the Harry Potter books, inventing Spanx, or being lucky enough to win the lottery, and that usually ends the argument.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
11. Why? It will have no affect on FB's share price.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:35 PM
Dec 2015

This is a commitment over their lifetimes. They are relatively young so that could mean 50 years. Their stock is $45 billion so that is about a billion a year. FB stock trades at about $3 billion a day changing hands with a market value of about $300 billion. A billion traded over a year would have zero affect on the price.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
5. Congratulations to Mr Zuckerberg and Ms. Chan
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:55 PM
Dec 2015

And welcome, Max. Live long and prosper.

May this new enterprise thrive.


maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
14. I'd prefer he, and his Capital Gains, were taxed progressively
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:31 PM
Dec 2015

so that we didn't have to fight over the scraps left when the DoD is done feeding at the trough.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
16. The cynical part of me
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:47 PM
Dec 2015

thinks these billionaires are using the charity stuff as a way to avoid paying taxes. I have a feeling that they are all getting it back some way or another. If there was a anyway they can still give the state govts their cut of the estate taxes that would have been paid of the fortune and still donate to charity, I would be A Ok with it.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
18. Not impressed. I know how he does his business.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:07 AM
Dec 2015

I hate to be the party pooper, but Zuckerberg got rich by selling the personal information of one-quarter of the population of the planet Earth to the highest bidder.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
21. It's not like people wouldn't find out after awhile
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:10 AM
Dec 2015

making him look even better that he didn't announce anything.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
20. You notice that almost all the 1% billionaires set up foundations.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 08:25 AM
Dec 2015

It's a tax write-off and they get to control where the money goes. It's much different than paying taxes like the little people. They are able to use this tool to influence public policy on a scale outside of the realm of voters and their elected representatives.

Zucks pet project right now is immigration reform so he can bring in cheap tech talent to undercut the American worker. It's self serving. Every dollar you give to a foundation offsets what you owe in taxes, especially inheritance taxes when his children through trust funds get to run the foundations next.

This analysis of the walton foundation may give a hint of whats to come.

The report goes on to detail how the Foundation has been funded over the years, namely by tax-avoiding trusts established with assets provided by the late Sam, Helen and John Walton or their estates. The study found that 99% of the Foundation’s contributions since 2008 have been channeled through 21 Charitable Lead Annuity Trusts. These CLATs, as they’re known, are specifically designed to help ultra-wealthy families avoid estate and gift taxes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/06/03/report-walmarts-billionaire-waltons-give-almost-none-of-own-cash-to-family-foundation/


The Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance by philanthropist and accounting expert, Sheldon Drobny. Techrights has collected evidence that shows the same and will organize it here. Through the foundation, Bill, Melinda and Microsoft maintain pharmaceutical patent investments, tobacco investments, investments in alcoholic beverages, petroleum investments, investments in experimental and controversial crops, and even investments in news/media. Gates need not even pay tax, though he keeps control of the assets and uses that control to influence private and public policy. Money talks and politicians can in turn be persuaded to buy from Microsoft. This dependence/lock-in cascades down to businesses and homes, creating a revenue stream that would not exist in a free market. Gates is also able to bring public money to himself through energy and public health policy. As Gates has diversified, his corrupting influence has spread to other portions of the economy.

We have provided extensive evidence for the above claims in many past summaries which include the following (sorted in chronological order although we took a much closer look in later years). As Techrights will report fraud in other areas as it is discovered.

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique




Philanthropic funds are common among the super-rich in the US; they enable tax avoidance provided five per cent of net investment assets are given away annually. What quickly set Gates’ fund apart was its orientation towards the poor – rather than élite culture or religion – and its sheer size.


Philanthropy – and particularly philanthropy on this scale – isn’t a black-and-white issue though, and important questions have been raised about the way the Foundation operates, and the impact of its work.

The first question concerns accountability. While only around five per cent of the Foundation’s annual global health funding goes directly to lobbying and advocacy, this money (over $100 million) talks loudly. Gates funds institutions ranging from US university departments to major international development NGOs. The Foundation is the main player in several global health partnerships and one of the single largest donors to the WHO. This gives it considerable leverage in shaping health policy priorities and intellectual norms.

Gregg Gonsalves, an experienced AIDS activist and co-founder of the International Treatment Preparedness Coalition, welcomes the Foundation’s funding, but is concerned about its power. ‘Depending on what side of bed Gates gets out of in the morning,’ he remarks, ‘it can shift the terrain of global health.’

In 2010, the Gates Foundation gave in grants $2.5 billion The World Health Organization, meanwhile, operates on less than a year $2 billion

The Foundation’s 26 strategies are reviewed annually, and although CEO Jeff Rakes stresses that it is making ‘a systematic effort to listen’ to grantees, Gonsalves and others are sceptical: ‘It’s not a democracy. It’s not even a constitutional monarchy. It’s about what Bill and Melinda want. We depend on them learning, and it’s not as if there are many points of influence for this.’

‘The Foundation is more than a collection of grants and projects,’ says Dr David McCoy, a public health doctor and researcher at University College London and an advisor to the People’s Health Movement. ‘Through its funding it also operates through an interconnected network of organizations and individuals across academia and the NGO and business sectors. This allows it to leverage influence through a kind of “group-think” in international health.’ In 2008 the WHO’s head of malaria research, Aarata Kochi, accused a Gates Foundation ‘cartel’ of suppressing diversity of scientific opinion, claiming the organization was ‘accountable to no-one other than itself’.

http://newint.org/features/2012/04/01/bill-gates-charitable-giving-ethics/




There is a lot of information out there that documents how foundations are a tool of the rich for influence and tax avoidance. Zuck needs to pay his 30% to the tax payer like anyone else.
 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
23. You should seriously consider
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

making this an OP. This is just a rich person tax avoidance. The only solution I see is to give every person a $5m dollar lifetime max on charitable deductions. Everything after that is taxed at whatever rate it would have been tax without the charity deduction.

Buffett also has him scheme going on.

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