MSNBC regrets showing IDs in Calif. shooters' home
Source: washington examiner
MSNBC said Friday that the cable network regrets having shown images on live TV of material that personally identified details about relatives of the San Bernardino shooters.
"We regret that we briefly showed images of photographs and identification cards that should not have been aired without review," the network said in a statement given to the Washington Examiner.
NBC, the parent network of MSNBC, along with other media outlets, gained access to the home of the married couple who shot up a health center in San Bernardino this week.
While rummaging on live TV throughout the house, NBC reporter Kerry Sanders and his cameraman showed images that appeared to reveal the identity of people related to the shooters, including the photo of a young child. The shooters, who were killed in a stand off with police, were the parents of a six-month-old girl.
Read more: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2577667
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)information on others involved. Idiots. I see possible law suit in the air.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I was agape watching it live. Even the former FBI & security talking heads were amazed that it was happening.
Can't put my finger on it ... but, something is very odd about it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and the talking heads are talking, it seems eerily familiar to 1930's Germany (except Muslims this time)
morningfog
(18,115 posts)They apparently left the murder scene, with the dead bodies untouched for over 24 hours, but let reporters rummage through the house after two days, or less?
These investigations take time. They often require going back to the scene to look for something or follow a trial you didn't know existed before.
rollin74
(1,990 posts)FBI is done with that location
Trajan
(19,089 posts)But the San Bernardino Sheriffs Department had not released it back to the family yet, according to it's statement today .. They were not done, apparently ...
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Unless they were able to get some evidence that answered all the questions, but I don't even see how they knew all he questions yet.
deminks
(11,017 posts)Watch, it will roll off of her like water on a duck.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Not buying that they had to keep showing it.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Went to an interview with Lindsay Graham.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)for some reporters and a certain landlord.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)...will mean absolutely nothing, when someone decides to do something to the family members...like burn down their homes, make threatening calls to their places of employment, even attack them in revenge!
Oh, well!
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Retrograde
(10,156 posts)comes closer to the mark, IMHO.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Seriously, what is wrong with people.
neohippie
(1,142 posts)I heard the landlord was paid $1000 to give the press entry to the house, not sure if true
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)It's the fault of whoever let them in.
goldent
(1,582 posts)Why didn't I think of this when I was a teenager?
Munificence
(493 posts)This is journalism at it's lowest form and I personally hope every single one of them are prosecuted to the full extinct of whatever law(s) that they might have broken.
We deserve better.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Didn't think so.
-none
(1,884 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)No need for defense to gain access to the crime scene.
grasswire
(50,130 posts).....or some other valuable evidence.
It isn't just "defense" that needs to evaluate the home of bomb makers/shooters/apparently terrorists.
Gee.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)of every piece of paper, every piece of electronics, dusted for fingerprints everywhere, and collected DNA. They have such highly specialized equipment to do these searches that they don't even have to destroy the place as much as they use to.
It doesn't take weeks to collect all the evidence if you enough personnel and highly sophisticated techniques.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...experts on TV today thought it very strange that there was no evidence of fingerprint dust anywhere. That was considered unusual.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Perhaps they had a reason to wipe down the place? The FBI probably wouldn't want anyone coming behind to know what proof they have obtained, I would think.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Wow ... Are you a member of the investigative team?
You seem to know a lot of stuff about stuff ... In an absolute 100% way that is both amazing and phenomenal ...
Every piece of paper, and you know this for sure?
Do tell ...
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)No, the stuff hasn't all been analyzed yet, but the FBI would not turn that residence over if they had not taken absolutely everything they could possibly use to investigate this crime.
Or don't you believe that?
This isn't a tv show, where an investigator will come back and find a valuable piece of evidence that was overlooked by some rookie cop.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)released it back to the landlord.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I was simply objecting to the 100% certitude being expressed ...
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I don't see how that could be determined yet.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)It's not the actual crime scene.
Sure, the FBI might find fingerprints which could lead to other peoples' involvement, but fingerprints still mean nothing. They will need other proof besides fingerprints. Hard drives don't need to remain at the crime scene. Papers don't need to remain at the crime scene. And since no murder or other such crime was committed in the residence (when you would typically expect the defense to examine the scene - blood splatters, body placement, etc.) why would defense attorneys need access to the residence? It's not that kind of case.
And don't forget, even when crime scenes are preserved, evidence like weapons and computers are routinely removed but still used as evidence in court.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I just don't see how it can already be determined that nothing of evidentiary value remained there.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I don't think "this" scene has to be preserved. Does LE normally preserve a residence if a murder is committed in a nightclub? They'll get warrants and comb through the house if they believe it is necessary, but that's all.
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,623 posts)Reporters inexplicably stampede San Bernardino shooters' home
By Michael Walsh
3 hours ago
Their exceptional access garnered a dubious response.
Onlookers were left scratching their heads when reporters stampeded the home of San Bernardino shooters Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik on Friday grabbing personal items in a frenzy to get them on the air.
Apparently, the landlord let members of the media inside the house, providing unprecedented access so quickly after a killing spree.
Authorities have identified Farook and his wife, 27-year-old Malik, as the gunmen who opened fire during a holiday party for county employees at Inland Regional Center, a facility for persons with disabilities about 60 miles east of Los Angeles. The rampage left 14 dead and 21 injured.
ETC.
More:
http://news.yahoo.com/reporters-inexplicably-stampede-san-bernardino-shooter-s-home-182218908.html#
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)This just in:
Terrorists like the taste of 7-Up and Sprite. We go now to our terrorist soda expert Jack Smith. Jack, what does this revelation mean for the investigation into the shootings?
Jack: Well, Mike, this is a real eye opener for the investigation. That a Muslim extremist would purchase two competing brands of lemon soft drink suggests the depraved mind of a truly sick individual. You'll notice how the Sprite bottle is turned so the main part of the label is facing the wall. That suggests slight shame with what he is about to do. But the fact that it doesn't look like he has drank any of it shows he's fully committed to the hard work in the coming jihad. He will, indeed, obey his thirst.
Mike: illuminating as always. Thank you Jack. Coming up, hand sanitizers of ISIS. How effective are they?
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)seen on tv. Had to take a shower after seeing it.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)Even if they are dead, don't their heirs get the right to control the location and retrieve their possessions before the media is allowed to rifle through the place?
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Strange no reporters have asked the question. The lease does not end on the death of the leaseholder.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)I looked at the California Tenant Guide - http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/catenant.pdf and it seems as though the landlord has to go through all the steps up to eviction before he can take back his property. But I am not a lawyer and am not up to reading through all the stuff tonight.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...until MSNBC discloses the amount of money that changed hands between them and the landlord.
TYY
mainer
(12,029 posts)Law enforcement is trying to establish connections between the shooters and ISIS, yet investigators left all sorts of documents behind, unanalyzed. Shouldn't they have been boxed up for inspection? Wouldn't you want to see whose faces were in the photos? Wouldn't you want to find out if the ID cards are valid or fraudulent? They're finished combing the place in only three days?
This sounds like incredibly sloppy investigative work to me.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Why didn't the authorities just pack everything into some storage. Or wait longer, stuff could still be hidden in walls or evidence bits in carpeting/floors ect.