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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:25 PM Dec 2015

Biden Warns Ukraine That Corruption Imperils Its Democracy

Source: Bloomberg

December 8, 2015 — 8:51 AM EST


Ukraine must root out corruption and impose the rule of law or risk graft becoming the “death knell” of the eastern European nation’s democracy, according to U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.

Biden, visiting Kiev for the fourth time in two years, warned against repeating the broken reform promises of the 2004 Orange Revolution, which failed to curb the clout of the businessmen that control Ukraine’s biggest companies and influence politics. The government must complete economic overhauls under a $17.5 billion bailout from the International Monetary Fund, he said.

“Oligarchs and non-oligarchs must play by the same rules,” Biden told lawmakers Tuesday in the Ukrainian capital before a vote this month on the 2016 budget. Fighting corruption is one of Ukraine’s “national security interests.”

Ukraine, jolted by a war in its easternmost regions and 1 1/2 years of recession, has faced criticism over delays in reforms needed to sustain the flow of financial aid from allies including the U.S and the European Union. Anger at corruption fueled the Orange Revolution and an uprising that unseated pro-Russian leader Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. Ukraine ranks 142nd-lowest of 175 nations in Berlin-based Transparency’s latest graft-perceptions survey.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-08/biden-warns-ukraine-that-corruption-imperils-its-democracy

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Biden Warns Ukraine That Corruption Imperils Its Democracy (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2015 OP
Really mtasselin Dec 2015 #1
K&R. Big time. forest444 Dec 2015 #3
yeah there did seem to be a bit of irony there... nt navarth Dec 2015 #10
Not to mention Svoboda (Ukrainian Nazis). forest444 Dec 2015 #2
you mean the 5 billion Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #6
She never mentioned that it was "over 20+ years." forest444 Dec 2015 #7
the fact checkers have debunked that crap Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #9
Biden needs to warn the U.S. about corruption. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #4
I totally agree... kjackson227 Dec 2015 #5
Then recall Victoria Nuland Kagan. Wilms Dec 2015 #8
Just dripping with irony. Phlem Dec 2015 #11
Transparency International had Ukraine at 26 (142nd in the world) in 2014. pampango Dec 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #13

mtasselin

(666 posts)
1. Really
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:35 PM
Dec 2015

Really, Mr. Biden you don't have to go to the Ukraine and tell them that corruption is wrecking their democracy, look at America sir, we are being destroyed because of corruption at all levels. It starts in the white house pushing tpp and these other trade jokes and I can not call them agreements because they are not. To continue on how you supported the bankruptcy law where students can't claim bankruptcy for their student debt. To every government agency that is controlled by the industry that they are supposed to represent. So Mr. Biden let's clean our own house before we criticize someone else's.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. Not to mention Svoboda (Ukrainian Nazis).
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:35 PM
Dec 2015

Of course, they didn't seem to bother Mrs. Kagan when she was discussing the $5 billion U.S. taxpayers spent on the putsch and how best to hide the fact that Oleh Tyahnybok runs the show.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
6. you mean the 5 billion
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:02 PM
Dec 2015

Over 20 plus years and the party the did not get over 5% of the vote to be represented in the Rada?

forest444

(5,902 posts)
7. She never mentioned that it was "over 20+ years."
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

She did, on the other hand, specifically refer to the need to hide Tyahnybok's real influence by appointing relatively acceptable right-wing profitizers like Yatz.

We should take her at her word, then - especially since she didn't think the public could later hear her (the only time goons like the Kagans probably ever really say what's on their mind).

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
9. the fact checkers have debunked that crap
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

Yes 5 billion over more than 20 years from 1991 to present. Funny the only ones pushing that misinformation are from Putin's media outlets. Same thing with a coup, the previous president fled the country after even his own party voted to remove him. He was replaced with a caretaker president until free and fair elections were held, and they were and the present administration was elected.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. Transparency International had Ukraine at 26 (142nd in the world) in 2014.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

Russia was at 27 or 136th in the world.

In the top 10 of the rankings were European countries along with New Zealand, Singapore and Canada. At the bottom were Somalia and North Korea. The US has improved a little under Obama and is at 17th in the world.

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results

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