Joe Biden: If Donald Trump Is The GOP Nominee, Hillary Clinton 'Wins In A Walk'
Source: Huffington Post
Vice President Joe Biden thinks that if real estate mogul Donald Trump wins the GOP presidential nomination, Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton "wins in a walk."
Speaking to Bloomberg Politics after a diplomatic trip to Ukraine on Tuesday, Biden did not hold back in his criticisms of Trump. He joined the chorus of politicians condemning Trump's proposal to ban all Muslim immigrants, calling it "a very, very dangerous brew for America."
He also wrote off the reality television star's candidacy, dismissing it as "showmanship."
Like Biden, many members of the Republican Party think that if Trump succeeds in becoming their nominee, it would help Clinton, the presumed Democratic nominee, because Trump would alienate moderate and independent voters.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-donald-trump-hillary-clinton_56678ae7e4b009377b22ed1c
Vice-President Biden confirms that Hillary will be our nominee.
An easy call, really.
forest444
(5,902 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)He and his fellow msnbc hosts are probably under no small amount of pressure to favor Hillary at Bernie's expense.
That's with the notable exception of the woman I consider 'America's anchor', Rachel Maddow. If you didn't catch her interview with Bernie tonight, please do so; truly inspiring stuff.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Biden sucks. He was a major architect of the Drug War and teamed up with Bush Sr to enact mandatory minimum sentencing. They knew what they were doing. History has caught up to them.
KingCharlemagne
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Carolina
(6,960 posts)and voted for IWR, too
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)because poll after poll after poll shows that she will!
Nitram
(22,845 posts)I guess it would never occur to you that someone might thing Clinton is the better candidate and is more likely to win. Because Bernie!
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Who would Senator Sanders' running mate be, and how would the rest of America react to the Senator from Vermont after 6 months of a billion dollar GOP advertising campaign against him? The Republicans could spend a billion dollars on the airwaves and internet in Ohio and Florida and win the election.
That's why the GOP is afraid of Secretary Clinton and not Senator Sanders.
The likely Democratic ticket, in my opinion, is Secretaries Clinton and Castro. That kind of dream ticket would force the GOP to play defense in places like Georgia (9.3% Hispanic) and Kentucky and Louisiana and Arkansas. Even Texas (30+% Hispanic) would be interesting. There would be almost no fear of the billion dollar GOP advertising campaign. That would be the kind of wave election we need to get things done.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)she not winning the votes she is buying them with TV ads that interrupt everyone's Dinner,their favorite TV,their morning coffee etc
Is that how Hillary wins?
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)how American elections actually work? Television advertising has been the main medium of communicating political positions for all of my lifetime. No politician can shake 300,000,000 hands or speak directly to hundreds of millions of people. Buying air time is how candidates get their message out. That is a far cry from buying votes. By the way, isn't Bernie spending a lot of money 'buying' votes in Iowa and NH with paid television advertisements? Or is your candidate the only one allowed to buy air time without it being voter theft? Did Obama buy the last election by spending a billion dollars on his campaign?
INdemo
(6,994 posts)unless she uses Bernie Sanders talking points...and she never mentions an issue until Bernie has talk about it,one example might be the inequality of income. Hillary did not mention that until Bernie did and the Media treated Hillary's statements as if they were fresh ideas,after ignoring what Bernie had previously said.
She never comes down on Wall St except to say I have a plan,but never follows up with details.
.....and to counter what you said..If Hillary wins there will be Democrats that will vote for the Republican nominee and we lose the national because people don not want another Clinton or Bush
And no Obama did not buy the last election but he used a hell-of-a- lot talking point that were lies.
And yes he spent a billion but look who the Republican candidate/s were
Liberals did not show for the 2008 and the same for 2012.
If Hillary wins progressives will stay home again.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... so that she can either "evolve" on this issue, or confirm that she's against the interests of American workers!
I would take Bernie's stances on gun issues, which on balance protect us far more from gun violence than her stances on H-1B (and other Free Trade crap) have from losing our jobs.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... or win with Hillary.
I want to win. I want it all.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Why don't you define who fits this demographic, other than the manipulative crap from the VERY narrow demographic controlled corporate media!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... the way you did when you pushed the bankruptcy bill on us?
forest444
(5,902 posts)Have made them a veritable state-within-a-state. A lot like the U.K. and their "offshore" - but fully British - laundries: Guernsey, Jersey, and the Isle of Man (their use as such, illegal by EU laws).
To paraphrase Woody Allen, two mockeries of a sham.
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forest444
(5,902 posts)The more people learn about Bernie, the better he looks to them. Hillary, unfortunately, can't make that claim - and that's what worries me most about having her as the nominee.
Having said that, I wish Biden would keep such thoughts to himself. As we all know, a number of GOP candidates are still holding out hope that GOP voters could begin peeling away from the Donald based on this fear, whether real or imaginary. And if current polls hold, a Carson or Narco Rubio nomination might just clinch it for them (God forbid).
A high-profile Democrat such as the Vice President should never say anything that might help the GOP cattle make a savvy decision.
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forest444
(5,902 posts)He's got a good heart; but the credit cards are always in the chest pocket in front of it (Delaware).
I think there's a lot to what you said, and I don't doubt that his old backers from the usury lobby are leaning on him to use his popularity in Hillary's favor. To Biden's credit though, he's done so only very sparingly.
I for one would have been happy to vote for him over Hillary, if Bernie weren't running.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)That is the reality.
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yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Saying otherwise is not recognizing reality.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Nitram
(22,845 posts)Biden knows more about politics and elections than you ever will.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)eom
malokvale77
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in the matter. Why bother with the farce of a primary then?
Nitram
(22,845 posts)...when people think Clinton is a shoe-in. It's a very defensive reaction. sounds like you have your doubts about Bernie's viability.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Only my junior high gym teacher ever got away with calling me "Vale".
I have no doubt that Bernie is a viable candidate. It's only Clinton supporters who make things up about the meaning of my posts.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)That is why we still need to "bother with the primary." Try to focus. It is not that hard.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)As to your snarky "Try to focus. It is not that hard" comment, it reeks.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Snark invites snark. People give their opinions, endorsements, and predictions. It is part of the political process. Join the debate by making your best argument.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)n/t
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)I thought they were pretending to have an election.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Congress and all downticket votes need to be passed so we can sweep the GOP out, like taking the trash out.
No election is a gimme!
FailureToCommunicate
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prouddemfromaustin44
(52 posts)Trump is a nutcase. We need to do everything to keep him away from the White House.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)A toddler 'Wins In A Walk'
"Vice-President Biden confirms that Hillary will be our nominee.
An easy call, really."
That is not what he said. This is:
"He said he doesnt plan to endorse Clinton, the former secretary of state and leading contender for the Democratic nomination, or her challengers, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders or former Maryland Governor Martin OMalley, before the primary contests. He said he told the Democratic candidates that Id let the party decide; I would not weigh in."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-09/biden-calls-trump-s-comments-on-muslims-a-dangerous-brew-
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)Clearly, he was asked something like, "What do you think would be the result of a Clinton vs. Trump general election matchup?" and he said that she would "win in a walk." We must always consider the source - this is Bloomberg, afterall.
Gothmog
(145,481 posts)This will not be a close election if Trump is the nominee
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Joe will never change. He is famous for opening his mouth before thinking. I'm personally glad he's not running, but he needs to keep his mouth shut, unless it is the truth. I guess we're skipping the primaries, eh? Joe, Joe, Joe!!!!
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I actually think the xenophobic and pro gun stuff will give him some edge with the actual swing voters.
I think the business crowd would not be for his anti muslim or immigrant thing since business is global and they don't want to alienate any markets.
The big business lobby will probably go for Clinton which will help her but I'm not sure how much money is influencing elections anymore.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)Obama and Romney camps both spent close to a billion dollars each in the 2012 campaign cycle. One could reasonably argue that Romney and his super PAC allies did not spend as wisely as the Obama team. But make no mistake, poorly funded candidate are mostly losing candidates.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)riversedge
(70,272 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but no way can clinton beat trump unless he runs third. bernie will beat trump by a comfortable margin. trump will BRING seats when everyone and their uncle comes out to vote against hillary.
riversedge
(70,272 posts)Spot on Joe!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3352427/Hillary-walk-victory-dangerous-Trump-Republican-nomination-says-Biden.html
Hillary Clinton will walk to victory if 'dangerous' Donald Trump is Republican nomination claims Joe Biden
Joe Biden said Trump's support is built on people 'who are very frightened'
He does not believe Trump can keep up his momentum and defeat Clinton
Biden, 73, has joined long list of lawmakers, leaders who criticised Trump
Republican front runner called for Muslims to be banned from entering U.S.
By Jay Akbar For Mailonline
Published: 06:03 EST, 9 December 2015 | Updated: 08:44 EST, 9 December 2015
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Hillary Clinton will stroll to victory if Donald Trump is nominated as the Republicans' presidential candidate, Vice President Joe Biden has said.
Biden has joined the growing list of politicians, world leaders and celebrities who have condemned Trump for his radical views and comments.
Trump, who leads the race to become the Republican's candidate, proposed the construction of a wall to keep Mexicans out of America and this week said Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.
Biden, who has served two terms as vice president, said Democrat front runner Clinton 'wins in a walk' if she goes up against Trump.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3352427/Hillary-walk-victory-dangerous-Trump-Republican-nomination-says-Biden.html#ixzz3tpznPseI
Victory assured: Joe Biden, who has served two terms as vice president, said Democrat front runner Hillary Clinton 'wins in a walk' if Trump wins the Republican nomination
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3352427/Hillary-walk-victory-dangerous-Trump-Republican-nomination-says-Biden.html#ixzz3tq0O6MIB
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tabasco
(22,974 posts)About half the people in America will vote for psycho Trump.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Romney for hacking the hair off the Great White Horse Rider. Republican Party will never recover.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)I don't think anyone really knows what will happen. Stuff that would have killed off any other candidacy ever, just bounces off Trump and makes him stronger.
Couple that with the most lackluster, unlikeable and uninspiring Dem candidate ever in Hillary Clinton, anything could happen, and Trump could very well win.
Or Trump could flame out in spectacular fashion, which would be entertaining to see.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)trending down and Bernie trending up, Trump has the entire Republican Establishment terrified, the others are trending down. He's sucked the air out of the Republicans, to be sure.
I think either Bernie or Hillary could beat whoever runs with all the drama or brokered convention on the Right. But it's anybody's guess. I'm waiting to see what happens in Iowa...the first test. Bernie seems to be much more like a typical Iowan (I'm from Nebraska) than Hillary.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think any Democratic candidate could beat Trump in the general election. I think Kinky Freidman could beat Trump in the general at this point.
cigsandcoffee
(2,300 posts)And as we all know, conventional wisdom has worked really well in predicting how Trump will do.
I think Sanders has a better shot against a Trump candidacy, but either way makes me nervous. Normal rules don't seem to apply to the Trump campaign.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Trump manages to stay close in the polls, the election is close, a few states have rigged elections, the federal government takes jurisdiction to decide the outcome of the election away from the states that are in question, the SCOTUS selects Trump.
That scenario could happen again.
Vinca
(50,300 posts)If unexcited Democrats stay home and the GOP unites behind Trump, he wins. Best case scenario is Trump goes third party and splits the GOP vote.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)she probably the most despised politician this country has ever had.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Man, am I impressed...
Carolina
(6,960 posts)no contest between Dumbya and Gore, too
TexasBushwhacker
(20,209 posts)I would LOVE for Trump to be the GOP candidate.