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iandhr

(6,852 posts)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:59 PM Dec 2015

French Far-Right Party Leader: Trump’s Muslim Ban Goes Too Far

Source: TPM

Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party, said Thursday that GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s proposal to prevent Muslims from visiting or immigrating to the U.S. was too extreme.

“Have you ever heard me say something like that?” Le Pen asked during an interview on a French TV program, according to The New York Times. “I defend all the French people in France, regardless of their origin, regardless of their religion.”

Le Pen is known for her own provocative statements about “illegals” and Islam. In October, she went on trial on charges of inciting racial hatred for comparing Muslims praying on public streets to the Nazi occupation.

Le Pen’s National Front has ridden a recent wave of anti-immigrant hysteria, heightened after Islamic State-affiliated terrorists killed 130 people in Paris on Nov. 13, to the top of the polls. The party took 30 percent of the vote in the first round of France’s regional elections this week.

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What does it say when Marie Le Pen thinks you have gone to far?
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French Far-Right Party Leader: Trump’s Muslim Ban Goes Too Far (Original Post) iandhr Dec 2015 OP
Wow and that's from LePen who is a facist herself. WhiteTara Dec 2015 #1
Just flipping wow. LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #2
Believe it or not... (Why FN may be more nuanced than The Donald) MowCowWhoHow III Dec 2015 #3
They are the muslim versions of Clayton Bigsby iandhr Dec 2015 #5
I don't think it's that dramatic. christx30 Dec 2015 #7
It says you are complètement dingue BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #4
Yeah, you say that now. If elected, you'll go full on fascist! nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #6
Wow. Is Mme LePen a moderate far right loony? Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #8
"Moderate" and "Marine Le Pen" should never be used in the same sentence jmowreader Dec 2015 #9
Wow. AngryOldDem Dec 2015 #10

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
1. Wow and that's from LePen who is a facist herself.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

Trump and his followers are setting a new low bar standard.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
3. Believe it or not... (Why FN may be more nuanced than The Donald)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:06 PM
Dec 2015
How Marine Le Pen is winning over the Muslim vote

‘Shock’ was the one-word headline on the front of Monday’s Le Figaro. France was bracing itself for a swing to the right in Sunday’s regional elections, but few imagined it would be quite as dramatic. Marine Le Pen’s Front National (FN) polled nearly 30 per cent of the vote in the first round of voting, ahead of Nicolas Sarkozy’s centre-right Les Républicains and the ruling Socialist Party, who trailed in third with 23 per cent. As it stands, the FN are on course to take control of six regions after Sunday’s second round, although the predictions are they will triumph in no more than three due to tactical voting.

Among those who voted for the FN are a small but increasing number of Muslims who see no conflict between their religion and the party’s fierce opposition to Islamism. Marine Le Pen – a far smarter operator than her anti-Semitic father, Jean-Marie, whom she had expelled from the FN earlier this year – has been courting the Muslim vote since she became party leader in January 2011. In her victory speech on Sunday night she called for the French people ‘of all origins’ to vote for the FN in the second round and ‘turn their back on the political class that deceives them’. The message that Marine Le Pen has sought to convey is that her party isn’t opposed to Muslims but to what she has described as the ‘progressive Islamisation of our country’. It’s a message that is winning her votes in the most unlikely of places.

In September Mohamed Boudia posted on social media a selfie of himself and Le Pen, an act for which he was threatened with death, and which served to reinforce his own belief that the Islamic extremists must be rooted out. While the majority of France’s estimated 4.5 million Muslims want to lead peaceful, integrated lives (only 2.1m are said to have declared their faith), there are hundreds, possibly thousands, of extremists.

Opposing them are Muslims like Boudia, some of whom have started a Facebook page called ‘We are Muslims and Proud to vote for Marine Le Pen‘. Another person is Karim Ouchikh, an administrator for Rassemblement bleu Marine, a political organisation affiliated to the FN. His parents were Berbers from northern Algeria who arrived in France in the early 1960s and abandoned their language and their customs to immerse themselves in the new culture. The problem now, he says, ‘is that since then a huge number of foreigners have arrived and formed enclaves’. In an interview with Le Point magazine in October, Ouchikh explained that he turned to the Front National because he was dismayed at the rising number of young Muslim men adopting the dress and beards of the ultra-conservative Salafists, people he describes as ‘provocateurs’.

More: How Marine Le Pen is winning over the Muslim vote

christx30

(6,241 posts)
7. I don't think it's that dramatic.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

It seems more like these are Muslims that hate extremists amongst themselves, and see Marie Le Pen as willing to go after them.
Maybe I'm just reading that wrong.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
9. "Moderate" and "Marine Le Pen" should never be used in the same sentence
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 06:33 AM
Dec 2015

Having said that, when Marine Le Pen, who is farther to the right than anyone in France with the possible exception of her father, says you've gone out of your fucking mind there's a very good chance you have.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
10. Wow.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 06:51 AM
Dec 2015

That speaks volumes.

You know your policies are fucked up if both Marine Le Pen and Dick Cheney come out against them.

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