Republicans discussed possibility of brokered convention
Source: CNN
Washington (CNN)Top Republican Party officials have discussed the possibility of a brokered convention, sources told CNN Thursday, a new recognition that the GOP nominating contest could be protracted well into the summer.
At a monthly dinner meeting this week, Republican Party brass decided it would be prudent to plan for a contested convention, which would be triggered if no candidate has enough delegates to win the nomination.
Five sources insisted that while the topic came up during the dinner, it did not dominate the discussion.
Republican strategists have long theorized about the possibility of the brokered convention, which hasn't happened in decades, but the dinner meeting appears to be the first active planning taken by the GOP to prepare for it.
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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/politics/rnc-brokered-convention-preparation/
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yup
artislife
(9,497 posts)And both Trump and Carson are threatening to bolt if the RED rides rough shed. Our party should heed the calls and disgruntled sounds from our side. We don't constitutionally have to have 2 parties and they don't have to be republicans and Democrats.
Lots of people fed up with the status quo.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)It is serious. We have to pay close attention to what they are doing. They have too many fascist candidates to take lightly.
I don't feel like fighting about who should be running in the general on our side. I am very worried about the person they will run, the money they will spend to elect him, the voter suppression and outright theft. They may have lost control of their tea party and their message, but that doesn't mean they won't find a way to profit and win if at all possible.
artislife
(9,497 posts)This is about the status quo and how the top tries to dictate things. People are not going along to get along anymore as much as they have in the past.
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Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)And the Democratic Party damned well pay attention. No, Bernie won't go third party but if they try to shoehorn HRH into the nomination at a 51% disapproval rating people will vote anyone but Hillary -- that's how bad she's hated. Yes, HATED.
The MSM and the Party Bosses (of BOTH parties) will be the last to catch on to this.
StoneCarver
(249 posts)Marco Rubio will win- Period. I don't know why people can't see it. It's so obvious. I work in a very liberal place. No one is voting for Hillary -and they've all said so publicly. Jeesh, a Hillary nomination will sink us.
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odd_duck
(107 posts)plan on getting Boss Adelsons' pet Roo-Bee-Oh the nomination......
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)He probably believes, and perhaps rightly so, that in a brokered convention, he might emerge as the compromise candidate. And his huge campaign budget proves that a lot of big-money interests continue to believe that he has a viable chance. So, if Trump and Carson leave the party, JEB may just be right -- he could wind up as the nominee. No, I doubt that in the general election he would win, but he's probably thinking one step at a time.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I know, this seems like it can't happen because it's just not something that ever takes place. However, it can actually happen now and it's thanks to the RNC.
Look up Rule 40 in the RNC handbook, or you can just click here for a direct link to it.
They were in such a snit after 2012 the RNC changed the rules in an attempt to control the nomination process and give them more time to raise funds for their candidate. It was hubris at it's finest, and as such things tend to do, it could come back and bite them in their collective arses.
Here's an article written after the changes, but still from back in 2014. Long before the field became what it is for them currently.
In a scenario with a commanding front-runner, this doesnt seem like a high threshold to cross. But with the absence of an heir apparent standard-bearer and the most wide open nomination battle in decades looming, some RNC members think Rule 40 could crack open the door to the possibility of a convention floor fight. The theory: If no one candidate has secured eight states, it invites a free-for-all without a reason to get out. Conversely, if multiple candidates garner eight victories and accrue hundreds of delegates, each could claim a right to soldier on. For instance, it isn't inconceivable to think that Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., could dominate the Northeast, with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. performing well in the South and Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wisc,, racking up victories in the Midwest.
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Officially, its Rule 40 in the RNC handbook and it states that any candidate for president shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states before their name is presented for nomination at the national convention.
In a scenario with a commanding front-runner, this doesnt seem like a high threshold to cross. But with the absence of an heir apparent standard-bearer and the most wide open nomination battle in decades looming, some RNC members think Rule 40 could crack open the door to the possibility of a convention floor fight. The theory: If no one candidate has secured eight states, it invites a free-for-all without a reason to get out. Conversely, if multiple candidates garner eight victories and accrue hundreds of delegates, each could claim a right to soldier on. For instance, it isn't inconceivable to think that Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., could dominate the Northeast, with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. performing well in the South and Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wisc,, racking up victories in the Midwest.
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But Haugland, wielding the 2012 rule book in his hand, merely refers back to the RNCs own rules, created and ratified by its own membership to defend his game-changing assertions.
The RNC has no option except to follow these rules, until they convene in 2016, he says.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/03/11/a-brokered-gop-convention-in-2016
This one is more current, from September of this year.
And they said they were increasingly convinced that Donald Trump could exploit openings created by the partys revised rules to capture the nomination or, short of that, to amass enough delegates to be a power broker at the convention.
Youve got a set of unintended consequences that werent planned for, said Richard F. Hohlt, a Republican donor and Washington lobbyist. So its going to be harder for a candidate to get to the magic number, which could open up the process to a convention situation.
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But the evolving Republican landscape also suggests that the partys changes, such as squeezing primaries into a shorter period in hopes that one candidate would break through, are proving no match for a field this big and rambunctious, powered by the forces of populism and anger at Washington and financed by wealthy benefactors.
As a result, the campaigns are preparing for a marathon delegate battle, and have begun building organizations in territories as far-flung as Guam and American Samoa. An adviser to Cruzs campaign, Dennis Lennox, has island-hopped through the Pacific this month, discussing local issues like the airfares between Honolulu and Pago Pago, in search of a stray delegate who might support the senator. And on a conference call with donors the morning after Wednesdays debate, Danny Diaz, the manager for Bushs campaign, ran down its operations in states well beyond New Hampshire and Iowa, according to a participant on the call.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/09/19/new-party-rules-fail-speed-republican-race/QvSl5WPOyvYB0XABUX4HkO/story.html
Basically, they have potentially over estimated their ability to wrangle in their extremist supporters, once again. Unless Trump, or some other GOP candidate can cleanly hold a majority in at least eight states, there's a strong potential for a blowup at the convention.
Will it happen? I have no idea, but it's actually a real possibility at this point.
Rod Beauvex
(564 posts)...will try do the same thing to Bernie.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Well, he's already considering a third party run if he doesn't win the Republican nomination.
So if he's the GOP nominee, progressives and independents vote against him and the Dems win.
If he's not the GOP nominee, he runs as a third party candidate and splits the conservative vote and the Dems win.
Either way, we win.