Ukrainians mark birthday anniversary of controversial nationalist

[newthinking]

Source: Reuters

Ukrainians march in central Kiev to celebrate what would have been the 107th birthday of controversial nationalist Stepan Bandera, a hero to some, a Nazi collaborator to others. Rough Cut - Subtitled (No reporter narration).

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/01/01/ukrainians-mark-birthday-anniversary-of?videoId=366885439

[MisterP]

1. the SS had to tell the HiWis to ease up on killing the Jews (because it was getting to obvious)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

[Jake Stern]

2. I applaud the KGB for whacking this Nazi bastard.

[nyabingi]

3. The US and other Western countries

who were instrumental is seeing that these far-right loonies gained power in Ukraine (and who've been supporting them financially, militarily, and diplomatically ever since) should feel ashamed of themselves. Our media virtually whitewashed the involvement of neo-Nazi sympathizers in the Maidan protests, and then we attack the Russians for being upset that insane Russophobes and Hitler-lovers have taken powers right next door.

You can understand a lot about a country and it's true nature by looking at whom it supports, and for the US, it's always been right-wing extremists, compliant dictators, or radical Islamists. Every damn time.

[EX500rider]

4. You mean the far right loonies who only won a total of 7 seats in the last election?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_parliamentary_election,_2014

Svoboda 6 seats, Right Sector 1 seat

[newthinking]

5. Half of them moved into the "party of War" (Yatsenyuk's party) and Lyashko's "Radical Party"

is fascist as well.

And all the parties freely allow these extreme groups to terrorize the population and use them to "keep order".

The mainstream media has done a piss poor job (and at times seemingly purposely) on reporting and explaining what has really been happening in Ukraine.

[newthinking]

6. "Ukraine's former President &Prime Minister formalize and strengthen alliance with Neo-Nazi groups"

From http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=5546464

Yes, this is a shocking headline but this is what is happening. There are no longer any doubts that the new Ukrainian leadership wasn't allied with Svoboda and Right sector (Neo Nazi groups) as a "necessary temporary situation", but is so aligned with them that they are taking part of the "fatherhood" party and binding with Svoboda and Right sector to create a larger, more powerful coalition.

Facism, having been emboldened from the recent coup in Ukraine, is growing significantly there as the country further splits politically. This is only one strong front for Facism there, there are also other parties such as PM Lyashko's "Radical Party, which has been growing in influence as well; (Lyashko is the Parlimentary member that Amnesty International warned on):

Link to Amnesty's info:
Impunity reigns for abductions and ill-treatment by pro-Kyiv vigilantes in eastern Ukraine
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/Impunity-reigns-for-abductions-ill-treatment-eastern-Ukraine-06-08-2014


There was always a problem with the new government that came into power in Kiev having brought in Neo-Nazi "commanders" into the executive branch and in many other positions in government. But they claim all along was that it wasn't a significant thing, and not demonstrative of the major personalities involved.

But this is clear evidence that not only was is it a considerable problem, but power players in the existing government are going to actually **increase** the prominence of these groups by forming a parliamentary collation and running together in the elections. This is a serious development and needs to be exposed.

From the Kyiv Post:

Turchynov, Avakov, Parubiy and commanders of special battalions included in military council of People's Front

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/turchynov-avakov-parubiy-and-commanders-of-special-battalions-included-in-military-council-of-peoples-front-364326.html

Parubiy is one of the heads of "Svoboda". This alliance also includes Andriy Biletsky, the head of the “Azov” battalion, the most openly fascist of the paramilitary battalions. Biletsky is also the leader of the Social-National Assembly of Ukraine and it’s paramilitary wing Patriot of Ukraine, (essentially the most violent and militant of the neo-nazi groups in Ukraine).


From wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_of_Ukraine)

"The Patriot of Ukraine (Ukrainian: Патріо́т Украї́ни is a Ukrainian nationalist organization with racist and neo-Nazi political beliefs. It constitutes a paramilitary wing of the Social-National Assembly of Ukraine (S.N.A.), an assemblage of neo-Nazi organizations and groups founded in 2008 that share the social-national ideology and agree upon building a social-national state in Ukraine. Both the “Patriot of Ukraine” and the S.N.A. engage in political violence against minorities and their political opponents. The leader of the “Patriot of Ukraine” and of the Social-National Assembly is Andriy Biletsky."

Here is a picture of the collation meeting. (Notice the banner in the background).
The former President and PM in the foreground.

[nyabingi]

7. Did the eastern half of Ukraine

participate in these elections? Were their voices and opinions allowed to be heard by the government in Kiev that has been waging outright war against them (with the blessing of the US)? Do you think the US is encouraging their Ukraine buddies to keep the far-right wing at bay in order to keep the PR clean?

The people in Donbass are not advancing on the capital of Ukraine trying to overthrow the current power structure, but are defending themselves from virulent Russophobes with genocidal tendencies. What's so hard for you to understand?

[EX500rider]

8. Hahaha-good one-channeling RT are we?

Or was that performance art?

[nyabingi]

11. Well, are the eastern Ukrainians

marching on Kiev in order to overthrow the leaders or not?

You don't need RT to see where the aggression in Ukraine is coming from.

[EX500rider]

12. "You don't need RT to see where the aggression in Ukraine is coming from."

No you don't....it's coming from Russia.

[nyabingi]

13. Why do you think the US

is so determined to support the regime in Kiev with weapons and diplomatic support? Don't tell me because we're interested in democracy and supporting Ukrainian visions for freedom.

The aggression was initiated and is still being pushed by Washington-based neocons (who hate the Russians with a passion) and they are determined to drag us into war. There was a time when Democrats were the peace-seekers and favored diplomacy, but the new 21st century Democrats apparently like war and provocation just as much as the Republicans do.

Sure you didn't mean to go to Republican Underground my man?

[EX500rider]

14. Nonsense, the US has only supplied non-lethal aid.

The aggression was initiated by Russia just like it was in the Crimea.
Sure you're not looking for Russia Underground my man?

[lanlady]

9. How much does the FSB/KGB pay you

to spout nonsense, nyabingi?

[nyabingi]

10. Haha! I wish I was getting paid - that would be easy money! (nt)