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Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:07 PM Jan 2016

Sanders campaign reports raising $33M in fourth quarter, has $28M in bank against Clinton

Source: newser



Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, has now collected $73 million for the primaries through a powerful online fundraising apparatus that should help him compete with Clinton deep into spring. His haul will allow him to spend money at a comparable rate with Clinton, who raised $37 million since the beginning of October and $112 million during 2015 for her primary campaign.

"This people-powered campaign is revolutionizing American politics," said Jeff Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, in a statement. "What we are showing is that we can run a strong, national campaign without a super PAC and without depending on millionaires and billionaires for their support. We are making history, and we are proud of it."

Clinton is the Democratic front-runner in national polls, but Sanders remains within striking distance against her in Iowa, which holds its caucuses on Feb. 1. Sanders is hoping to surprise Clinton in Iowa and then use his New England ties to defeat her in the New Hampshire primary on Feb. 9, where polls have shown him with a slight advantage.

The campaign finance estimates indicate that Sanders should have the resources to mount an effective challenge: His campaign said it had $28.4 million in the bank at the end of 2015.

Read more: http://www.newser.com/article/61a454427376417e984c3bfcd781a69e/sanders-campaign-reports-raising-33m-in-fourth-quarter-has-28m-in-bank-against-clinton.html

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Sanders campaign reports raising $33M in fourth quarter, has $28M in bank against Clinton (Original Post) Ellipsis Jan 2016 OP
Hillary raised tens of millions more from liberal PACs backing her up. onehandle Jan 2016 #1
Crystal ball.. or wishful thinking? Ellipsis Jan 2016 #2
They added 40m to her bottom line last quarter. onehandle Jan 2016 #6
Hillary Clinton’s campaign raised $55 million in the latest fundraising quarter Ellipsis Jan 2016 #12
liberal pacs is the new word for fucking billionaire corporatists who want ten back for every one roguevalley Jan 2016 #15
My retort was to... "and the cash will fade for Senator Sanders come February, end in March." Ellipsis Jan 2016 #17
I don't either! eom Duval Jan 2016 #40
for the cash fading, I don't think so, Ellispsis. :D roguevalley Jan 2016 #62
Hillary is a corporate puppet. azmom Jan 2016 #4
Ain't that something to be proud of? Helen Borg Jan 2016 #16
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #24
bwahaha. More like corporate Pacs cali Jan 2016 #19
That is amazing. azmom Jan 2016 #3
$73 million -- Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #5
How much of that goes to general election downticket races? Any of it? MADem Jan 2016 #7
Why would we we give money to the DNC? So that DWS could favor Florida Republicans? virtualobserver Jan 2016 #21
Democratic Presidential candidates generally raise money for lesser candidates.... George II Jan 2016 #27
And the DNC bubble is better? intersectionality Jan 2016 #35
So what you are saying is, if he doesn't funnel enough money to them..... virtualobserver Jan 2016 #41
It's not "funneling", it's supporting the organization whose resources they're using to be.... George II Jan 2016 #44
you are playing games with words virtualobserver Jan 2016 #45
Again you don't get it - he's not GIVING them money, he's raising money for them. Just about.... George II Jan 2016 #48
more word games from you virtualobserver Jan 2016 #50
...just like the world. Bernies has plenty of time to create/renew/revisit relationships. Ellipsis Jan 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Ellipsis Jan 2016 #49
Not true Duckfan Jan 2016 #52
The DNC isn't the only organization that supports local candidates. I never said they were. George II Jan 2016 #59
I have no idea why he became a Democrat. He has no respect for our party. Laser102 Jan 2016 #60
Yeah, just caucusing, voting with Democrats and for the Congressional Democratic leaders neverforget Jan 2016 #64
Oh boohoo. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #65
smh. nt MADem Jan 2016 #63
Way to go Berners! SoapBox Jan 2016 #8
Yes, we do. Thank you Omaha Steve. azmom Jan 2016 #9
Neener Neener response from Hillary in 3...2... Proserpina Jan 2016 #10
Bread making and bookeeping for me Ellipsis Jan 2016 #13
Yeah - let's poo-poo it Plucketeer Jan 2016 #11
Oh, you naughty naughty truth-teller Proserpina Jan 2016 #14
This looks good! Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #18
I wonder how much he raised for state and local Democratic Parties, if any? George II Jan 2016 #20
None. TekGryphon Jan 2016 #22
No surprise - he's not what they call a "team player" - it's all about him. George II Jan 2016 #25
Such horseshit hueymahl Jan 2016 #31
Well, in the 4th Quarter Clinton raised $18M for other Democratic candidates, Sanders $0. George II Jan 2016 #34
If the DNC wasn't controlling the purse strings of the party intersectionality Jan 2016 #37
Sadly you have no concept about how that $18M will be helping State committees or local candidates. George II Jan 2016 #53
I don't but you pretending you do is a sad sad intersectionality Jan 2016 #67
What is your source? hueymahl Jan 2016 #39
Now we're pulling stuff out of thin air. Wow. Duckfan Jan 2016 #55
I'm a DTC Chair in CT and my state and federal officials and candidates do not raise money for us Larkspur Jan 2016 #26
In some states that's true, but the state and federal candidates do raise money for.... George II Jan 2016 #29
CT has the toughest state campain finance laws in the natiion Larkspur Jan 2016 #33
Hillary raised $18 million for down-ticket races, Bernie raised $0.00 TekGryphon Jan 2016 #23
Hillary is a sock puppet for Wall Street Larkspur Jan 2016 #28
Clinton did raise money directly through a PAC that she set up this year strictly for the purpose... George II Jan 2016 #42
What is the name of the PAC? virtualobserver Jan 2016 #46
Something like "Hillary Victory Fund", which does NOT refer to her own candidacy, but.... George II Jan 2016 #51
Considering the damage the Clintons have done to the Democratic Party Larkspur Jan 2016 #68
Without a supporting team don't expect to get an agenda accomplished Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #30
Yep, she sure does. Wall Street, Big Banks. MIC, etc. Punkingal Jan 2016 #36
You are right, she has an agenda she wants to get into place. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #56
Really. If only he had a congress that would work with him, Amimnoch Jan 2016 #43
Very true, having a Democratic base from bottom to top will help Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #57
What I have to say about that is madokie Jan 2016 #54
Wow, no minimun wage increases? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #58
Interesting excerpt from the Washington Post report on this: George II Jan 2016 #32
A few pesky facts. Good for you George II. Laser102 Jan 2016 #61
Alll riiiight!! I knew we could do it! Duval Jan 2016 #38
now is time to spend on mass media ads for Bernie. daybranch Jan 2016 #66

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Hillary raised tens of millions more from liberal PACs backing her up.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

And the cash will fade for Senator Sanders come February, end in March.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. They added 40m to her bottom line last quarter.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

My guess is 50-60 million this time.

They report after the candidate.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
12. Hillary Clinton’s campaign raised $55 million in the latest fundraising quarter
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton's campaign announced Friday that it raised $55 million in the final fundraising period of 2015, and $112 million in primary-election funds for the year. Clinton brought in $37 million in money specifically for use in the primary during the fourth quarter of 2015.

Clinton also raised $3 million for the general election. Her annual total is the most for any non-incumbent in a non-election year and roughly equal to what President Obama raised as a sitting president ahead of the 2012 election, the campaign said.

The totals are further evidence of the Democratic front-runner's fund-raising muscle, despite public fretting from her campaign that the numbers might slip or that challenger Sen. Bernie Sanders might out-raise her.

The campaign had set a 2015 goal of $100 million for use during the primary period. The campaign exceeded that, leaving about $38 million in the bank.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/01/hillary-clintons-campaign-raised-55-million-in-the-latest-fundraising-quarter/

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
15. liberal pacs is the new word for fucking billionaire corporatists who want ten back for every one
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jan 2016

they give

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
17. My retort was to... "and the cash will fade for Senator Sanders come February, end in March."
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

I don't disagree with you.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
5. $73 million --
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

all in small donations. That is absolutely unprecedented! Wow! And, he's not burning through his funds like Hillary is.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. How much of that goes to general election downticket races? Any of it?
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

I wouldn't call that amount "just short" of what Clinton raised. She raked in 55 million, 37 for herself and the balance to the downticket contests.

Is that his full amount? Or is there more not mentioned that's earmarked for DNC distribution?

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. Democratic Presidential candidates generally raise money for lesser candidates....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

....who will be on the ballot. That is the way it has worked for decades.

And if (doubtful) he gets elected he's going to expect those other Democratic candidates/Representatitves/Senators to support him?

He and his campaign and his supporters have a lot to learn how this works. Sadly he's operating in a vacuum or his own world.

intersectionality

(106 posts)
35. And the DNC bubble is better?
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

they've actively not supported candidates in competitive districts. Particularly progressive candidates.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
41. So what you are saying is, if he doesn't funnel enough money to them.....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jan 2016

If he is elected, they will forget their responsibility to the American people, and will not support him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
44. It's not "funneling", it's supporting the organization whose resources they're using to be....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

....elected, and the funds are raised outside of the candidate's (Hillary Clinton) campaign committee.

Unfortunately we have many people here on DU who don't understand how this all works. But they sure will have denigrating comments about it.

That's why Sanders is mired in the mid-20s in the polls of most states.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
45. you are playing games with words
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jan 2016

What you said is if he does not give them money, they will not support him if he is elected.

That would be ignoring their responsibility to the people.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Again you don't get it - he's not GIVING them money, he's raising money for them. Just about....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

....every other Presidential candidates do that. What makes him so special and exalted that he can't help the organization whose resources he's using.

Says a lot about him.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
50. more word games from you
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016

You said that Democrats would not support their elected President unless they got money. Raised or "given".

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
47. ...just like the world. Bernies has plenty of time to create/renew/revisit relationships.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

He NEEDS iowa and NH to get him to the next phase... whatever that maybe.

Response to George II (Reply #44)

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
52. Not true
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

I worked for a U.S. Senate candidate in Oregon in 1990. DNC turned him down for $$support. And he was an unknown. But had strong support from dem's and progressives.

George II

(67,782 posts)
59. The DNC isn't the only organization that supports local candidates. I never said they were.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jan 2016

Many candidates who have large war chests and virtually uncontested elections contribute what they can to candidates around the country who are being out spent.

I still find it amazing that so many people in this discussion (not necessarily you) are so naive to the way campaigns are funded.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
64. Yeah, just caucusing, voting with Democrats and for the Congressional Democratic leaders
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jan 2016

his entire time in Congress. Other than that, he has no respect for the Democratic Party.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. Way to go Berners!
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jan 2016

This is fantastic.

And we owe Omaha Steve a big kudos as well!

Go Bernie!

Go Berners!

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
10. Neener Neener response from Hillary in 3...2...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jan 2016

oh, well. Guess there's time to do some housework, sudoku, and read Moby Dick while we wait.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. Yeah - let's poo-poo it
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

Dame Hillary's got more ammo. And just like Bernie, hers comes strictly from the people - supreme court even said so!

hueymahl

(2,497 posts)
31. Such horseshit
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

"All about him." If there has ever been a candidate that is "all about me" that is HRC in a nutshell. Only one that exceeds her self absorbsion is Trump.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. Well, in the 4th Quarter Clinton raised $18M for other Democratic candidates, Sanders $0.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

And yet Sanders wants full access to the Democratic Party resources.

intersectionality

(106 posts)
37. If the DNC wasn't controlling the purse strings of the party
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jan 2016

The party wouldn't be stuck in slow motion. They even prevented him from accessing his own data until it was pointed out they were in violation of their own contract. The abandonment of the 50 state solution is much more indicative of how they squander money versus "distributing" to dem candidates. When the 18 million goes further than the DNC's chosen ones let me know.

hueymahl

(2,497 posts)
39. What is your source?
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jan 2016

It is my understanding she can't raise money directly - she just appears at events.

But that was not what I was calling horsrshit on - it was the insinuation that Hillary was doing anything other than looking out for herself while Bernie am was the selfish one. It is the exact opposite.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
26. I'm a DTC Chair in CT and my state and federal officials and candidates do not raise money for us
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jan 2016

directly.

Some of them do attend our fundraising events, which helps if they give us enough lead time to purchase local ads advertising their attendance at our event. Some don't tell us until the day of the event that they are coming, so it's impossible to advertise to Democrats in the region.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. In some states that's true, but the state and federal candidates do raise money for....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

....the State Democratic Party, which then supports candidates locally and state-wide.

Connecticut is different, however, as far as candidates for State office (Representatives, Senators, and Constitutional officers) are concerned, because most of them now participate in CEP.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
33. CT has the toughest state campain finance laws in the natiion
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

That's why the federal and state candidates can not directly donate to town committees. However, if they are members of their local DTC's, they can contribute as individuals. They can also setup state PAC's that can contribute to DTCs, but those PACs are separate from their campaigns and most don't want the scrutiny or risk having a bad or incompetent treasurer run that PAC.

TekGryphon

(430 posts)
23. Hillary raised $18 million for down-ticket races, Bernie raised $0.00
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

If I wanted to move America to the left, I know who I'd be supporting.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
28. Hillary is a sock puppet for Wall Street
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jan 2016

How many of those down ticket Democrats are Corporcrats?

Also, she can't raise money for them directly. All she can do is be a guest speaker at an event. If local and state parties and candidates don't invite Bernie to be a guest speaker at their event, don't blame Bernie.

Didn't Bernie attend Iowa's JJB dinner? If he did, then he raise money foe the state Iowa Democratic Party. If he attended any state party fundraising event, then Bernie did help raise money for that state's Democratic Party.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. Clinton did raise money directly through a PAC that she set up this year strictly for the purpose...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jan 2016

...of raising money for the National and State Democratic committees. That committee raised $18M in the 4th quarter over and above attending state fundraising events.

(btw, you made the same mistake I do frequently - our dinner is the only one called "JJB" (B being for Bailey), I get corrected all the time for that!)

George II

(67,782 posts)
51. Something like "Hillary Victory Fund", which does NOT refer to her own candidacy, but....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016

....it's a fund to help OTHER Democrats to be victorious. It was set up specifically to support other Democratic candidates.

Of course, just from the discussions here, nothing she does is good even if it is good, and nothing Sanders does is bad even if it is bad.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
68. Considering the damage the Clintons have done to the Democratic Party
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

raising funds for Clintonista candidates is how she thinks she's doing the Dem Party a favor.

I'm still not fan of the Clintons.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. Without a supporting team don't expect to get an agenda accomplished
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary knows the importance in having the supporting team.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
56. You are right, she has an agenda she wants to get into place.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

She understands the value of working with members of Congress to get her agenda accomplished.

BTW, getting some new regulations into place such as beefing up Dodd Frank and invoking the Volcker rule so if the banks start faltering will break them up.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
43. Really. If only he had a congress that would work with him,
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jan 2016

he might actually be worth supporting.

Unfortunately St. Bernard isn't running for King of America, or Despot of America. We still have a Representative Republic, and all his promises are worthless without a Senate or house to make them happen. Also unfortunate for him, there is no version of the 115th congress that will possibly make the promises he's making a reality..

Therefore he's either lying to his supporters with false promises, or a fool.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
57. Very true, having a Democratic base from bottom to top will help
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

Democratic ideas to become reality, good reason why Hillary is fund raising to give to the DNC to get more Democrats elected.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Interesting excerpt from the Washington Post report on this:
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/02/bernie-sanders-raises-more-than-33-million-in-latest-fundraising-quarter/

"While Clinton has coordinated with the National Democratic Committee to raise an additional $18 million, Sanders has not replicated those efforts, despite an arrangement with the national party that allows him to do so."

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
66. now is time to spend on mass media ads for Bernie.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jan 2016

Now is time to make yard signs for Bernie by volunteers. Lets get the message out, Bernie cannot be bought! This is grass roots- make our own signs and let him spend money on ads. We are for democracy- hear us now!

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