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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:48 AM Feb 2016

U.S. Postal Service Swings to Profit in Holiday Quarter

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Business

U.S. Postal Service Swings to Profit in Holiday Quarter

Agency helped by strong demand for package delivery and a big surcharge

By Tess Stynes
tess.stynes@wsj.com
@Tess Stynes

Feb. 9, 2016 9:23 a.m. ET

The U.S. Postal Service swung to a profit for the holiday quarter, helped by strong demand for package delivery, a big surcharge and continued favorable interest rate changes on workers’ compensation.

Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-postal-service-swings-to-profit-in-holiday-quarter-1455027833



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U.S. Postal Service Swings to Profit in Holiday Quarter

February 09, 2016, 09:45:00 AM EDT By Dow Jones Business News

The U.S. Postal Service swung to a profit for the holiday quarter, helped by strong demand for package delivery, a big surcharge and continued favorable interest rate changes on workers' compensation.

The agency, which has been hit by losses for several years, has been pushing increasingly into shipping as its traditional businesses—first-class and standard mail—continue to decline.

For the three-month period ended Dec. 31, the agency said shipping and package revenue rose nearly 14% and was particularly strong during the holiday season. Package volume growth of 16% met expectations. ... Chief Financial Officer Joseph Corbett said that "absent legislative reform, the exigent surcharge is expected to roll back in April, and our losses will increase by approximately $2 billion per year."

Over all, the Postal Service reported a profit of $307 million, compared with a year earlier loss of $754 million. Excluding the favorable impact of interest rate changes and the surcharge, the Postal Service's loss was $700 million.
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Write to Tess Stynes at tess.stynes@wsj.com

(END) Dow Jones Newswires
02-09-160945ET
Copyright (c) 2016 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
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U.S. Postal Service Swings to Profit in Holiday Quarter (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2016 OP
Great news. Hopefully they can avoid privitization. oasis Feb 2016 #1
Hopefully they can hold on to their package delivery TexasBushwhacker Feb 2016 #17
I guess Congress will make them set aside that profit times 500 until valerief Feb 2016 #2
+1! 2naSalit Feb 2016 #6
There are hundreds of issues that Sanders does not have the time to mention SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #3
And there was great gnashing of teeth in the GOP. malthaussen Feb 2016 #4
YES! Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #5
If they were profitable in the 4th Quarter houston16revival Feb 2016 #7
Fuel costs have NEVER been the largest costs, even for BUS companies happyslug Feb 2016 #9
Thanks for the explanation houston16revival Feb 2016 #10
Lawyers are one of the few groups using first class mail. happyslug Feb 2016 #15
Republicans not liking this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #8
Amazon sent most of their packaged via USPS BumRushDaShow Feb 2016 #11
And then there is the beautiful post office in D.C question everything Feb 2016 #12
It has been a long time since that building served as a post office. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2016 #13
102 years, It has NOT been a "Post Office" since 1914 happyslug Feb 2016 #18
I will always love the USPS Skittles Feb 2016 #14
Oh gosh... whatever will the rethuglican Congress do? Raster Feb 2016 #16

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
17. Hopefully they can hold on to their package delivery
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

Nobody wants to touch delivering letters with a ten foot pole.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. I guess Congress will make them set aside that profit times 500 until
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:54 AM
Feb 2016

they go under. Cuz privatization and Congressional whores (no offense to sex workers).

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
3. There are hundreds of issues that Sanders does not have the time to mention
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

His support of the postal service is very strong

the list of this type issue that Sanders will work on is long

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
4. And there was great gnashing of teeth in the GOP.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

It must be frustrating to them. Rig the voting machines, gerrymander the districts, yet the wrong person might still win. Place a debt albatross around the Postal Service's neck so you can criticize them for not making a profit, and they still make it into the black.

Oh, well, at least they have successes like Flint to point to.

-- Mal

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
5. YES!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

Now, maybe they can remove all those postmen that drive around listening to right-wing radio when they deliver the mail.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
7. If they were profitable in the 4th Quarter
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

and fuel prices are at a 20 year low, why did the USPS raise
rates 10-15% on January 18, 2016?

Seems like the only thing that didn't go up was the first class letter rate.

That remained at 49 cents which means the public barely notices.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Fuel costs have NEVER been the largest costs, even for BUS companies
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

80% of the cost of running mass transits in urban areas are labor costs (those drivers cost money). Fuel has NEVER exceeded 20% of total costs of operating a bus system (This was one of the reasons buses replaced Streetcars in the 1950s, fuel costs were such a small part of operating costs, that the electricity to run Streetcars being even cheaper then oil, was a minor consideration when the conversion took place).

The same with the Postal Service and its competitor UPS, labor is the huge cost not oil. I be surprised if the cost of fuel for either the Post Office or UPS exceeds more then 10% of their total cost.

Since the 1960s First Class Mail main purpose has been to sent and pay bills. With most people paying and receiving their bills on line that source of revenue is DOWN and is expected to decline even further over the next 10 to 20 years. To increase the rate to much would be to make even more people to opt to pay bills on line. Thus an increase in First Class Rates may lead to a DROP in total income from First Class Mail, as people stop using first class mail.

Junk mail is where the Postal Service has received most of its revenue since the 1960s (When AT&T convinced people to call friends and relatives long distance instead of sending a letter). Advertisers see "Junk Mail" as an essential part of getting their message out to the people and are willing to pay for that right. In that category of mail, the Postal Service has no competition but its rates are held in check by the Postal Rate Commission. On the other hand, given the requirements set by Congress some rate had to go up and "Junk Mail" and Parcel Post rates went up (Parcel Post has NEVER been an exclusive monopoly of the Postal Service, thus UPS entrance and dominance of that segment of the shipping industry).

Sorry, unlike Jet Airplanes (whose fuel costs CAN exceed their Labor Costs), low fuel prices will can NOT lead to a price decrease for bus companies lets alone the Postal Service.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
10. Thanks for the explanation
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:42 PM
Feb 2016

as if I didn't know most of it already

So if they are profitable, why raise rates?

I didn't say fuel was the largest cost, I just said it was very low right now, btw.

And I didn't ask for a price decrease, just questioned raising rates. They eliminated
first class package rates of 3,4,5,6,7 ounces. The minimum package rate is now
8 ounces. So they will get all 8 ounce packages soon, which will make their problem
larger. People will stuff their packages and make them large enough to hold 8 ounces
since there is no incentive to make them small and lightweight.

Mismanagement if you ask me.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
15. Lawyers are one of the few groups using first class mail.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016

I use First Class mail all the time, in amounts over 3 ounces, so your statement did not make sense to me. I then reviewed the actual Postal guideline and saw where you get the impression they if no First Class Mail over three ounces. The Postal Service says all mail over 3.5 ounces are to use the "Large Envelope" or flat rate, which is first class mail except it is designed for envelopes larger then traditional business size envelopes. Thus the Postal Service does have First Class mail for 4,5,6,7 ounce categories, but are prices with "Large Envelopes" up to 13 ounces. Almost any envelope over 3 ounces ends up being a "Large Envelope" anyway, thus why duplicate rates?

Lawyers use First Class Mail extensively, but of the "Large Envelope" mail, so using the "large Envelope" is automatic for us and thus I did not see that the Postal Service has technically ended First Class Rates (but NOT First Class service) for non business size letters under 3.5 ounces. My meter treats both sizes of mail the same, as does the Postal rates (Technically "Large Envelopes" are anything over 11 1/2 inches wide, 6 1/8 inches tall and 1/4 inch thick and under 15 inches wide, 12 inches tall and 3/4 inches thick).

Thus posting First Class Mail for over 3.5 ounces just does NOT make sense, since such mail is going to be thicker then 1/4 inch and as such a "Large Envelope".

On my meter, it takes 18 sheets of paper to equal 3.0 ounces. That paper was also 1/8 inch thick. If tripe folded to fit inside a standard business envelope, it will exceed 3/8 of an inch (If pressed and compacted which is rarely done), thus it will clearly exceed 1/4 inch in thickness. Thus as you exceed two ounces, you enter into the Large Envelope area of First Class Mail, so why have rates for something that does NOT exist (mail thinner the 1/4 AND weighs more the three ounces). Thus flat rates are the only rare sizes over 3.5 ounces.

Sorry, once you look into the size restrictions and that large envelope are still considered First Class Mail, what the Postal management set as to their rates makes perfect sense. Any mail over 3.5 ounces will be thicker then 1/4 inch and thus a "Large Envelope" in the first place.

Over one pound, First Class Mail is now call "Priority mail" instead of First Class, but the rates are the same except Priority Mail rates are in Pounds not Ounces. "Priority Mail Express" is what the Post Office calls Overnight mail. Unlike First Class and Priority Mail, "Priority Mail Express" is NOT ship "Space Available" on airplanes (Mail is shipped by air in the US and has been even before Air Mail was dropped in the 1960s, it is shipped on a planes that have room after passengers and their baggage had been loaded onto the plane. If after the passengers and baggage is loaded, there is space left over, the mail is shipped (and there is almost always space available, thus by the 1960s there were no time difference between First Class Mail and Air Mail, so Air Mail was dropped, all mail went by air, handling the mail is a steady source of income for the Airlines industry).

"Priority Mail Express" is shipped BEFORE First class and Priority mail (and can be shipped on planes just carrying "Priority Mail Express" mail to get such mail to its recipient by the next day). "Priority Mail Express" is still profitable to the Postal Service, but it is NOT the high profit center it was in the 1990s before E-mail took over. Still profitable but the demand for such service is down do to E-mail.

Most courts (Bankruptcy Court is the biggest EXCEPTION to this rule) requires service of papers between lawyers to be by mail. It is good practice to mail copies of such filing to clients. Such filings are generally under 1/2 a pound (8 ounces), but exceed 1/4 inch thick, thus a large envelope has to be used, and those First Class Rates for Large Envelopes apply. If the notice is under three ounces, then Regular Envelopes are used, but greater then three ounces, "Flat rates" (Flat is another name for "Large Envelopes&quot are used for that is the size of what is being mailed.

Just a comment about the Postal Service and their rates and once you look into the DETAILS behind such rates, the rates actually makes sense.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
13. It has been a long time since that building served as a post office.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

Thirty years? Thirty-five years? I know that on NYE 1987 it was not a post office.

Thanks for writing.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
18. 102 years, It has NOT been a "Post Office" since 1914
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:16 PM
Feb 2016

In 1914 Mail came by train, so when a spot opened up next to the train station, the Post Office moved to that location (Congress also adopted a plan to improve DC in 1901, and building a new Post Office, finished in 1914, a judicial building, not built till 1992, and Union Railway Station, built in 1907, was part of that plan).

The "Old Post Office" (the name this building has gone by since 1914, it was built in 1899, thus 15 years as the "Post Office Building" and now going on 102 years as the "Old Post Office Building&quot . The Old Post Office was to be torn down in the 1930s as part of a build up of that part of DC, but no one wanted to tear down a perfectly good building so it survived, being offices for various other Federal Agencies till the 1970s, when it was again discussed being torn down, preserved again but leased for 140 years to Trump in 2012 so he could rebuilt it one more time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Post_Office_Pavilion

"The Old Post Office" successor, the City Post Office, the main Post Office fro DC from 1914 till 1986, is now the Post Office Museum of the Smithsonian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Square_Building

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Postal_Museum

Postal service is now done close to Dulles Air Port in Virginia for most mail go by air or Truck today.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
16. Oh gosh... whatever will the rethuglican Congress do?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

They do so want to privatize the Postal Service so their rich 1% friends can buy yet another public resource at fire sale prices.

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