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Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:06 PM Feb 2016

Hollywood hospital pays $17,000 in bitcoins to hackers who took control of computers

Source: Los Angeles Times

Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center paid a $17,000 ransom in bitcoins to a hacker who seized control of hospital's computer systems and would only give back access when the money was paid, the hospital's chief executive said Wednesday.

The assault on Hollywood Presbyterian computers occurred Feb. 5, when hackers using malware infected the institution's computers, preventing hospital staff from being able to communicate from those devices, said CEO Allen Stefanak. With the help of experts, the hospital was able to restore its electronic medical record system by Monday, he said in a statement.

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The attack has forced the hospital to return to pen-and-paper for its record keeping.

Phil Lieberman, a cyber security expert, said while ransomware attacks are common one targeting a medical institution are not. "I have never heard of this kind of attack trying to shutdown a hospital. This puts lives at risk and it is sicking to see such an act," he said. "Health management systems are beginning to tighten their security."

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hollywood-hospital-bitcoin-20160217-story.html

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Hollywood hospital pays $17,000 in bitcoins to hackers who took control of computers (Original Post) Kablooie Feb 2016 OP
This deserves the death penalty, plain and simple. Raster Feb 2016 #1
They are probably in some other country. Kablooie Feb 2016 #5
I usually assume these people are Russian. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #14
Not so often any longer. Xithras Feb 2016 #19
We have our own right here. trillion Feb 2016 #21
They did very wrong. Okay, so the hackers get their money and then what, show up in a week and do trillion Feb 2016 #20
Ah, the crimewave of the future... 2naSalit Feb 2016 #2
And now the Feds demand that Apple create software that could hack everyone's iPhones. forest444 Feb 2016 #3
The security state uses events like this to increase their budgets and reach. earthshine Feb 2016 #12
I'm unclear hollowdweller Feb 2016 #4
Interesting duality GummyBearz Feb 2016 #6
That must be illegal. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #9
I dunno GummyBearz Feb 2016 #15
Crazy noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #7
Considering that hackers were asking for $3.4 million... Thor_MN Feb 2016 #8
Hollywood Presbyterian didn't have an image backup? jmowreader Feb 2016 #10
It's probably an older and weaker system. earthshine Feb 2016 #11
I'm sure many large company systems are not managed properly. Kablooie Feb 2016 #13
16 years of serious cuts to IT. I thgink you nailed it. And with outsourcing trillion Feb 2016 #22
Like someone said, the hacker was probably someone in another country, but wouldn't it be ironic valerief Feb 2016 #16
Meanwhile, in other news: Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #17
No backed up data? Oneironaut Feb 2016 #18
+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #23

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. This deserves the death penalty, plain and simple.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

Use the tremendous computing power of the NSA, find the hackers that did this. Publicly execute them as a warning to others that would attempt the same.
:partialsarcasm:

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
5. They are probably in some other country.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:14 PM
Feb 2016

And no guarantee that country has good relations with the US.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
19. Not so often any longer.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

It certainly started in the Russian mafia, but it's so lucrative that it's now spread to criminals around the world. A LOT of it is coming from China and Pakistan. Coinvault was traced to a Dutch group. Moneypak is believed to have come from Germany. Cryptolocker, probably the most famous, was originally written by a Russian hacker but was ultimately discovered to have been run as a federated service by different groups around the globe.

Hell, nowadays there are CLOUD BASED cryptolocker-spinoffs that allow various crime groups to use shared API's to outsource this type of thing. It's a multimillion dollar a year business, and like any business it has "tiers". A crime group in Australia that wants to do some fundraising might contract with a hacker group in China to execute an attack that is based on a Russian botnet pushing an American written encryption trojan. I only wish I was kidding.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
20. They did very wrong. Okay, so the hackers get their money and then what, show up in a week and do
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

it again? OR, move on to the next place because they proved they can successfully do this with that place? I tend to think bullies come back for the easy hit.

I don't think the hackers should get the dp but very lengthy prison terms are in order.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
3. And now the Feds demand that Apple create software that could hack everyone's iPhones.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:10 PM
Feb 2016

Makes you wonder who's worse, really.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
12. The security state uses events like this to increase their budgets and reach.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:07 AM
Feb 2016

Actually solving problems would show that they have adequate finances and legal authorities.

They want more, more, more, for reasons that are beyond our understanding, having something to do with serving "the deep state."

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
4. I'm unclear
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

Did they pay it and it got reopened by the hackers or was it like the FBI money pac virus where people pay it but nothing happens?

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
6. Interesting duality
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:17 PM
Feb 2016

10 years ago I was in a California hospital and they were demanding $17,000 before they would let me go (even with my dad's high end state employee insurance).

Kinda blurs the lines for me in this case

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
9. That must be illegal.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

Do state laws in California let them do that? I mean, hold you against your will until you pay up? Or... what, send you to prison if you can't pay? Damn.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
8. Considering that hackers were asking for $3.4 million...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

It sounds like there was awesome bargaining taking place. Too bad that we have to pay whatever the "healthcare" industry demands...


(For the record, the hackers should be drawn and quartered.)

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
10. Hollywood Presbyterian didn't have an image backup?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:18 AM
Feb 2016

Call me naive, but a hospital should be backed up to the point where if a ransomware attack DID happen (or a disk drive crashed, a fire in the server closet, or any other catastrophe happened) they'd simply need to drop the system, low-level format their hard drives, and restore from the last clean backup they had.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
11. It's probably an older and weaker system.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, for sure, you are not the naïve one here.

It's frightening how many major institutions have inadequate security on their systems.

The first rule of security is not a firewall; it is the backup!

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
13. I'm sure many large company systems are not managed properly.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:47 AM
Feb 2016

Like Sony. Huge movie studio, small, poorly paid, second rate IT department.
Businesses don't have any idea how vulnerable they are.

And if Apple loses its current protest and is forced to break into one of their phones, that technology will certainly soon appear in China, Iran and N Korea so everything Americans do can be spied on and manipulated by foreign powers.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
22. 16 years of serious cuts to IT. I thgink you nailed it. And with outsourcing
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

to the cheapest bidder, and taking cheapest imported temp labor they can get, I think their infrastructures are suffering.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
16. Like someone said, the hacker was probably someone in another country, but wouldn't it be ironic
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:39 AM
Feb 2016

if the hacker was an American who needed the money to pay for a dire medical procedure or medicine? At least, that's how I'd write the novel.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
18. No backed up data?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:20 PM
Feb 2016

I blame the hospital for this. Viruses are a part of life. There's no reason not to have mulitple backups.

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