Bundy, his sons, 2 others indicted for 2014 standoff in Nevada

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Source: KGW TV

LAS VEGAS, Nev. – Cliven Bundy, his two sons and two others were indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with a 2014 protest and alleged assault against law enforcement officers near his Nevada ranch.

Ryan Bundy, Ammon Bundy, Ryan Payne and Peter Santilli Jr. were also indicted.

All five people face the following felony charges:

One count of conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer
Four counts of using and carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence
Two counts of assault on a federal officer
Two counts of threatening a federal law enforcement officer
Three counts of obstruction of the due administration of justice
Two counts of interference with interstate commerce by extortion
One count of interstate travel in aid of extortion


Read more: http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/cliven-bundy-his-sons-2-others-indicted-for-2014-standoff/46011807

[Chakab]

1. What took so fucking long?

[FailureToCommunicate]

4. Two years. Not bad for a Grand Jury.

[babylonsister]

6. That quote-love it. nt

[Thor_MN]

19. Like Abraham Lincoln said "Don't trust quotes you see on the internet"

What does "wheels turning fine" even mean? Likely this was a cobbled together meme and the fabricator thought "The millstones of the gods grind late, but they grind fine" was too wordy and didn't sound Asian enough...

[NBachers]

22. I thought it was "The millstones of the gods grind latte"

[Thor_MN]

23. Nah, that was Madonna singing "Espresso Yourself"

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

45. No, that was sung by Speedy, the Capuchino Monkey.

[Stevepol]

36. I could find no reference to Sun Tzu saying this.

In its most common form, it evidently comes from Longfellow. "The mills of the Gods grind slow but they grind exceeding fine."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_of_God

But Longfellow was evidently putting something into poetic form from an earlier time. Plutarch and some others are supposed to have said something like it. Probably Sun Tzu also said something like it, but in my very quick google search I couldn't find it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

38. Right, they even got the quote wrong, let alone the attribution. Good job setting it straight.

Illiterate "meme" makers don't even know the meaning of "meme", let alone the stuff they make up.

[L. Coyote]

12. Gathering evidence and intelligence, especially the self-incrimination kind.

Sometimes the best thing is, "Please proceed." I'm sure they have the package perfectly wrapped, slam duck style.

[snooper2]

43. That piece of shit Santilli is the one I want to see locked up for life

He is a real piece of work, I watched hours of his rambling bullshit live during the "standoff"

I don't think he believes half of what he spews but he is a loser grifter, and an overall piece of shit-

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. Well, duh, you run into Bundy's ranch and overcome his armed guards and arrest him.

I think the Feds were much smarter than you and arrested him when he was flying with no guns and no armed bodyguards.

It's easy for you to throw law enforcement officers needlessly into harm's way.

The Feds bided their time, wisely.

[FailureToCommunicate]

41. I'm glad you asked what we're all thinking. I've learned, now, that a Federal "true bill"

Grand Jury indictment can take up to five years, but in many cases (like terrorism) can take as long as the statute of limitations allows, often many years.

Despite my apparent miss-attribution (above) of the commonly heard quote -about justice moving slowly- it holds true, no matter who said it.

https://www.whitecollarcrimeresources.com/how-long-can-the-federal-government-investigate-you.html

[swag]

2. Cliven will die in jail

[Andy823]

3. Good

Looks like the are going to be occupying a new federal building for the rest of their lives.

[idahoblue]

5. What about the guy on the bridge?

The guy laying on the bridge, pointing a rifle at federal officers, lives in my town. I really want to see his name on an arrest warrant.

[babylonsister]

7. It sounds like you know who he is.

Maybe it's up to you.

[FailureToCommunicate]

11. You mean Eric Parker?

http://www.businessinsider.com/bundy-ranch-standoff-nevada-jerry-delemus-2014-4

[idahoblue]

16. I don't know him

This is a small town. I just nosed around his FB page (Eric EJ Parker), he is a little nervous.

[Wounded Bear]

25. He should be...

Pointing a weapon at a federal officer is a pretty serious crime.

[SHRED]

28. I just looked at his FB page

He just seems smug and arrogant to me.

[passiveporcupine]

33. He's probably watching for black helicopters right now.

Good. I hope he never gets another good night's sleep till he's locked up. People should start sending drones over his house, just to scare him. Although he'd probably try to shoot them down.

[Grassy Knoll]

8. Awesome...

[left on green only]

9. Will They Get To Wear Their Cowboy Hats During Trial?

As I understand it, "the ranch" is already totally buried in a lien stemming from non payment of grazing fees. So how will they pay for their defense? Any chance that Alex Jones will pony up for it? (bad pun intended)

[Ford_Prefect]

10. Looks like it will cost them more than a few cattle to settle this...

The indictment also includes five counts of criminal forfeiture, and would require forfeiture of property derived from the proceeds of the crimes totaling at least $3 million, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

[L. Coyote]

13. five counts of criminal forfeiture, totaling at least $3 million, as well as the forfeiture of guns

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1351859

[turbinetree]

14. I figured out that not including State crimes................................

it was over 127 years -----------------

And that criminal on the bridge its over 60 years after they get him----------------------



Have a nice day Bundy boys and followers --------------------you made your bed now sleep in it

[2naSalit]

15. I expected no less.

Glad I am not disappointed.

[madokie]

17. I go to bed a while ago

can't sleep so I get back up and log in to DU and this is the first OP I read. I'm so happy I may not get any sleep tonight at all.

Could it be we have a new Attorney General as to why this is finally coming down? the last one seemed to be scared in his own skin and wouldn't stand up to anyone about anything except kids smoking pot

[JohnnyRingo]

18. Even given plea bargains...

...Any two of those charges are serious time in the federal pen. Of course this means if they live to see parole they'll never handle a firearm again. They got in way over their heads.

[passiveporcupine]

34. Unfortunately, if they are released

They probably will handle firearms again. Which is why not one of them should ever be released.

[tabasco]

20. Wonderful news. These kook criminal leeches need serious jail time.

Maybe the next bunch of creeps who want to vandalize public property and assault officers will think twice.

[Bigmack]

21. Where are the charges...

.. of mopery... zoophilia...desecration... copyright infringement...barking dog...littering...

Those guys committed the worst crime NOT on the books.... contempt of cop. Whether at the local level or the Federal level, LEOs don't like to be made to look foolish.

I grew up in Detroit, where it only took one player to play cops and robbers. First thing I learned was to NOT mess with the cops.

[Glamrock]

29. Way to public, man.

Too many eyes. There's no need to look/be vindictive when you have an open and shut cade. Not to mention that most of these asshole will be doing close to life if not life. But I'm picking up what you're throwing down.

[NBachers]

24. If they ever get out, there'll be state detainers on 'em. They'll get picked up at the prison gate

and off on another whirlwind legal nightmare.

[Hoppy]

26. But -- BUt----BUT the federal gub'mint isn't a legal entity. How can they prosecute a free citizen?

[Geronimoe]

27. Father of the year

I don't think Cliven's two sons will nominate him for father of the year award.

[Glamrock]

31. Don't kid yourself...

The stupid runs deep with this crew.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. Bet they're really anti-government now.

[Leith]

32. It's About Freakin' Time

The stench of letting that gang run around free (I live in southern Nevada) was exceeded only by the lead poisoning of the water in Flint MI (where I was born and raised).

Justice delayed is justice denied.

[longship]

35. Great news!

Those guys are not going to see the light of day for a very long time.

And Cliven is utterly screwed.

Altogether a satisfying turn for the good guys.

[Vinca]

39. Better late than never.

I assume the taxpayers have a lien on the ranch so he can't use it toward bail.

[jpak]

40. I volunteer for the Precious Confiscation Squad

[leftyladyfrommo]

42. I hope this keeps other like minded people

from trying the same thing.

If they realize that they are looking at life in prison they will learn to use legal means to protest.

I bet the other people involved in the 2014 episode are shaking in their shoes. They could all be deemed guilty of the same crimes.

[Sunlei]

44. Bundies friends could have 'passed the hat', paid his fines & made that ranch into their homeland.

To late now.

[dembotoz]

46. lets not count our chickens too damn quickly

nut jobs have a way of getting away with stuff and before the right judge,
hell nothing would surprise me