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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:49 AM Feb 2016

Marine Bronze Star recipient from iconic Fallujah photo attacked at a D.C. McDonald's

Source: Marine Corps Times

Police in Washington, D.C., are looking for at least four people in connection with the assault and robbery of a veteran Marine sergeant and Bronze Star with “V” recipient, who was one of two Marines who helped carry then-1st Sgt. Bradley Kasal out of Fallujah’s infamous “Hell House.”

Christopher Marquez, who served in the Marine Corps from 2003 to 2011, told police he was assaulted on Friday around 10:30 p.m. while eating at a McDonald's, according to a Metropolitan Police Department report of the incident. The suspects took Marquez' wallet, identification, credit cards, debit card and about $400 in cash, the report says.

"When we’re in the military, we're there for our country," Marquez told Marine Corps Times. "...It’s very ironic: being attacked by the people you were there to serve."

Marquez said he believes the attack was racially motivated. He remembers being accosted at the McDonald's in Washington's Chinatown neighborhood by five people between 16 and 21 years old. Most were men or boys. One may have been female.

Read more: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/02/16/marine-bronze-star-recipient-iconic-fallujah-photo-attacked-dc-mcdonalds/80463452/





He's on the viewer's left IIRC.

That same strip was the site of a series of night-time beatings and stabbings of transwomen a couple of years ago. It's also one of the glitziest parts of town now:

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Marine Bronze Star recipient from iconic Fallujah photo attacked at a D.C. McDonald's (Original Post) Recursion Feb 2016 OP
“The kids were asking me if I think that black lives mattered, I was ignoring them." mwrguy Feb 2016 #1
Unfortunately that's the one part of the story the RW press is covering Recursion Feb 2016 #6
what makes you think he would lie about that? uhnope Feb 2016 #8
Why do people lie about things that happened to them? Recursion Feb 2016 #9
does that backpedaling tire you out? nt uhnope Feb 2016 #11
Umm... ok Recursion Feb 2016 #12
lol. more dissembling. uhnope Feb 2016 #13
You clearly haven't dealt much with trauma victims, have you? Recursion Feb 2016 #16
LOL snooper2 Feb 2016 #23
Sad that some people excuse beatings of veterans when it fits with their ideology. Kurska Feb 2016 #28
What the hell??? Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #31
Apparantly not... TipTok Feb 2016 #34
I guess the "kids" should have left him the fuck alone. tabasco Feb 2016 #32
Maybe they should mind their own business... TipTok Feb 2016 #33
I love how these guys are offended when they are victims of crime. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #2
You "love" that? Really? (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #3
Yes, I love their attitude about it. I do not love that he was a victim but whining about it CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #4
Given that his name is Marquez and he's from LA Recursion Feb 2016 #5
So you were there when it happened? davidn3600 Feb 2016 #7
"so fuck him" you say to the victim of a violent assault. uhnope Feb 2016 #10
next time you get smacked around a little and kicked in the balls you better not post it snooper2 Feb 2016 #24
What is wrong with you? TipTok Feb 2016 #35
"Maybe he flashed his 400 bucks in his wallet and some assholes decided to liberate it." Jesus Malverde Feb 2016 #17
A lot of crass insensitivity on this thread bluestateguy Feb 2016 #14
Sounds like it. elleng Feb 2016 #15
Reminds me of "baby killer" Major Nikon Feb 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #18
"When we’re in the military, we're there for our" Gregorian Feb 2016 #20
From Snopes shawn703 Feb 2016 #21
I've specifically avoided the BLM aspect Recursion Feb 2016 #22
You know better than that 4Q2u2 Feb 2016 #25
He never said they were BLM activists. hack89 Feb 2016 #26
I agree shawn703 Feb 2016 #27
That's the state of crappy sensationalist online "journalism" these days. Oneironaut Feb 2016 #29
To be sure DustyJoe Feb 2016 #30

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
1. “The kids were asking me if I think that black lives mattered, I was ignoring them."
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:57 AM
Feb 2016

I guess he should have answered.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Unfortunately that's the one part of the story the RW press is covering
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:27 AM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure I believe Marquez on that, but then again groups of teenagers more or less randomly beating people up has been a feature of Chinatown for a few years now.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Why do people lie about things that happened to them?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:55 AM
Feb 2016

I also don't particularly disbelieve him; I'm just generally cautious with stuff like this

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. Umm... ok
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:08 AM
Feb 2016


Do your eyes get tired reading things into posts that I didn't put there?

I don't particularly believe him; you took the extra step of accusing him of lying, for reasons that elude me.
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
13. lol. more dissembling.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:10 AM
Feb 2016

he said something happened. You said you don't believe him. How is that not saying he's lying?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. You clearly haven't dealt much with trauma victims, have you?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:22 AM
Feb 2016

Marquez's claim that the kids were shouting "Black lives matter" at him is not enough to make me believe that's what happened; I also have no particular reason to think it didn't. People get stuff wrong after trauma a lot, why you would go and accuse him of "lying" is beyond me, and frankly offensive. The first step is to listen to the victim without judgment; the police can figure out the actual facts.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
28. Sad that some people excuse beatings of veterans when it fits with their ideology.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

Very very sad.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
31. What the hell???
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

You want to rethink that post?

BLM is not about beating people up - it's about preventing people from BEING beaten up, and killed.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
34. Apparantly not...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

... at least not all of the group.

Or is this some of the 'No true Scotsman' bit?

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
33. Maybe they should mind their own business...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

He is under no obligation to talk to them...

Hope they catch em all and max 'em out...

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. I love how these guys are offended when they are victims of crime.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:15 AM
Feb 2016

Nothing ironic about it. Probably nothing racist. Maybe he flashed his 400 bucks in his wallet and some assholes decided to liberate it. Happens a hundred times or more a day in America.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. Yes, I love their attitude about it. I do not love that he was a victim but whining about it
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:20 AM
Feb 2016

as if the fact it happened to a veteran is some kind of disgraceful sin. So he discovered that America can be a dangerous place too. Is that news to him? Besides, he is trying to start some shit about it all being racially motivated so fuck him.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. So you were there when it happened?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:46 AM
Feb 2016

Since you are 100% sure it wasn't racial you must have been there and witnessed the whole thing, right?

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
35. What is wrong with you?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

Anyone who claims association with BLM just gets a free pass?

Attitudes like this have significantly contributed to the culture that produces criminals like these teenagers.

Congratulations on contributing to the problem.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
17. "Maybe he flashed his 400 bucks in his wallet and some assholes decided to liberate it."
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:33 AM
Feb 2016

Discusting...

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
14. A lot of crass insensitivity on this thread
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:16 AM
Feb 2016

A couple people here don't even seem all that upset that he was robbed and beat up.

Disgraceful.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
15. Sounds like it.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:21 AM
Feb 2016

I used to work near that neighborhood, and even parked there for years. This is bad news, and DUers should recognize it.

Response to Recursion (Original post)

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
21. From Snopes
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

WHAT'S TRUE: Marine veteran Christopher Marquez was involved in an altercation with at a Washington, D. C.-area McDonald's, and the parties involved remain unidentified.

WHAT'S FALSE: The teens involved have been identified as Black Lives Matter activists and are sought in connection with a "previous incident."


http://www.snopes.com/marine-attack-blm-claim/


This story didn't pass the smell test for me either.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. I've specifically avoided the BLM aspect
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

Because, as I said above, trauma and memory are mortal enemies.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
25. You know better than that
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)

From reading your posts, I get the sense that you are very familiar with the Corps.
He never implicated the BLM movement. He stated that they were asking him if "Black Lives Matter".
Secondly you state that trauma and memory are mortal enemies, but who better trained to cut thru the trauma remain focused on the task at hand and "Pay attention to Detail". Maybe a Decorated Combat Marine?

I also see others saying that him being a Veteran gives him no special corner on his crime, that is only partially correct. For some seem all to pleased to say fuck him and other derogatory statements that would never be said about other crime victims.

His service has nothing to do with the Illegal War in Iraq. He did not unilaterally involve this country in that War. Secondly take a look at either the picture or the statue and read his Bronze Star Citation. It looks to me like he is serving nobody but his brother Marine.
Whatever happened to Support the Soldier protest the War. Soldier Shaming is no different than blaming the deficit on Welfare, neither is the truth.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. He never said they were BLM activists.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

and it is most likely they were not. They were just punks out looking for a fight.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
29. That's the state of crappy sensationalist online "journalism" these days.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

Of the crap that isn't 100% made up, the rest is the result of agenda-based cherry-picking.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
30. To be sure
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

A headline of

Decorated black Marine assaulted and beaten by a group of latino teens would garner the same response.

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