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brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:06 PM Feb 2016

Americans Completely Divided on Supreme Court

Source: Political Wire

A new CBS News poll finds 47% of Americans want President Obama to appoint a new Supreme Court justice before he leaves office while 46% don’t want him to.

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that 43% want the Senate to consider an Obama nominee this year and 42% don’t.

Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2016/02/18/americans-completely-divided-on-supreme-court/

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Americans Completely Divided on Supreme Court (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
All of which is irrelevent Cal Carpenter Feb 2016 #1
it's only up for discussion under a Democratic President. If it was republican in office MariaThinks Feb 2016 #6
You know it! Person 2713 Feb 2016 #20
or a black guy in the White House...... lastlib Feb 2016 #25
This poll new low in fact free validations by MSM (both CBS&NBC) of Repub govt by tantrum stuffmatters Feb 2016 #14
Agreed. Article II of the Constitution mandates. no_hypocrisy Feb 2016 #28
I'll bet that division... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #2
100% of Constitutions want him to do what the fuck ever he wants to. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #3
In fact, 100% of Constitutions DIRECT him to make the appointment.... lastlib Feb 2016 #26
why dont they want a judge to be appointed? Backwoodsrider Feb 2016 #4
They don't like Obama so they're good chapdrum Feb 2016 #9
Conservatives have... deathrind Feb 2016 #29
And in equally surprising news... CincyDem Feb 2016 #5
Undermining the Constitution is now palatable houston16revival Feb 2016 #7
For those (like R. Reich) who think chapdrum Feb 2016 #8
This is not a poll issue-------------------this is a democracy issue-------------------- turbinetree Feb 2016 #10
46% of Americans are strict unconstitutionalists n/t intrepidity Feb 2016 #11
BS. Just like most issues, GOP leaders get out in front with wiggs Feb 2016 #12
Pisses me off every night....hearing pundits and supposed journalists wiggs Feb 2016 #13
Yep that's why McConnell rushed out and politicized it underpants Feb 2016 #27
Who gives a damn what people want? Helen Borg Feb 2016 #15
Regardless of how he spins it now, Sen. Schumer got it right at the end of President Bush's term Big_Mike Feb 2016 #19
Interesting. 840high Feb 2016 #16
Did the constitution say "take a poll" mdbl Feb 2016 #17
The Founders RobinA Feb 2016 #23
Republicans might be surprised, if they stall this daleo Feb 2016 #18
Strange wording in the Political Wire headline DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #21
Just ask them if Americans should vote for the Supreme Court Justices. Red Knight Feb 2016 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #24
Reuters/Ipsos has 54% supporting the President underpants Feb 2016 #30
Americans Completely Uninformed on Constitution milestogo Feb 2016 #31
Scientists race to adjust Theory of Evolution to meet divided American feelings IDemo Feb 2016 #32

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
1. All of which is irrelevent
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

Because we need to replace a deceased justice and that is the president's job. He is in office for almost another year.

It boggles my mind that somehow this is up for discussion...

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
6. it's only up for discussion under a Democratic President. If it was republican in office
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016

we would be called traitors and anti-constitution for even talking about the possibility of delay.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
28. Agreed. Article II of the Constitution mandates.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

A vacant seat on the Supreme Court is not up for popular vote.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
26. In fact, 100% of Constitutions DIRECT him to make the appointment....
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

...AND direct the Senate to advise and consent.

So pull your thumb out of yer azz, McConnell, and DO YER F*CKING JOB!

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
9. They don't like Obama so they're good
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

w/ignoring the Constitution.

Besides, they'll be glad to wait until yet another crypto-fascist is appointed.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
29. Conservatives have...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:10 PM
Feb 2016

...had the advantage in the court for decades. They don't want to loss it. President Obama should nominate as soon as he can.

I am certain whoever he nominates will be better than Bush jrs nomination of Harriet Miers...

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
5. And in equally surprising news...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

...the Washington Post reports (9/18/14) that only 36% of Americans can name the three branches of government. So if 64% of the pop can't name the three branches, it's actually pretty good that "only" 42-46% want to violate the constitution on this one.

Never underestimate the collective stupidity of the American electorate. This is just another example.

Sheesh.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
7. Undermining the Constitution is now palatable
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

to 1/2 of Americans

We really really really are doomed

Maybe a rope a dope strategy is what we should do for November

Don't fight the Republicans on this, it only riles them up

Just organize silently and don't ever stop

and VOTE!

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
10. This is not a poll issue-------------------this is a democracy issue--------------------
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

and these two organizations in my opinion have failed in this responsibility, this is not for entertainment value or a ratings game but how a government is suppose to function.

For them to just ask that question is just asinine.............................no wonder this country is in the shape its in---------------I mean really-----------------amazing



Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


Democracy is not a spectator sport -------------------get involved

Democracy begins with you--------------------tag your it

It is about getting a Progressive President, U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, and State and Local Legislatures


wiggs

(7,814 posts)
12. BS. Just like most issues, GOP leaders get out in front with
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

misinformation, lies, confusion, outrage, anger....then, when polls suggest a confused, low information electorate that's split they turn around and say they're just reflecting public opinion.

How many of those polled actually believe that there's no precedent for nominating judges in election years? Or how many believe Obama has stocked SCOTUS and other courts with out-of-the mainstream judges and GOP obstructionism is merely protecting America from radicalism? These questions should be part of the polling process and if those polled prove themselves to be low information, factually challenged, or willingly or unwillingly stunningly ignorant then the pollster should invalidate that respondant for those types of questions. Also disqualifying should are certain answers to questions about Obama's citizenship, Iraq's connection to 9/11, and climate change.

These are not people who can or will respond thoughtfully or seriously. And who's interested in polls that aren't serious?

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
13. Pisses me off every night....hearing pundits and supposed journalists
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

report on public opinion, completely ignoring the huge role media plays in shaping that public opinion because they are: 1) trying to appear even handed 2) allow misinformation to stand because it sells, creates drama, and makes a better story and 3) are making sure their mega-corporate owners aren't inconvenienced.

A well informed public is essential to democracy (Lincoln?). We are seeing what happens when we don't have a well informed public

underpants

(182,830 posts)
27. Yep that's why McConnell rushed out and politicized it
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

Their nonsense becomes part of the discussion. Repetition works.

Big_Mike

(509 posts)
19. Regardless of how he spins it now, Sen. Schumer got it right at the end of President Bush's term
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

The President can submit all he likes, nothing in the Constitution says that the Senate has to take up the nomination. In order to be a functional part of the government, they should take up the nomination, debate it, and vote. It has worked pretty well, as we don't have Justice Bork, Justice Meyers, etc. up on the podium. We threatened it, they threaten it now. Let us see what happens.

President Obama wanted to keep Justice Alito's (sp?) nomination from coming to a vote, and he was in favor of any move to keep it from happening. Now he, like Sen. Schumer, says he regrets that position.

Personally, I don't believe they will sit on a nomination until January 2017. But they still have long memories, and like the tit-for-tat on nominations. We'll just have to see.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
17. Did the constitution say "take a poll"
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

This country is so effed up they wouldn't know what the constitution said if it kicked em in the $%^

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
23. The Founders
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:43 AM
Feb 2016

as seen in The Federalist Papers specifically and in so many words worried that decisions would be made because they are "popular." In fact, one of the reasons they added the Senate to the appointment process instead of letting it sit solely with the President is that they were afraid the President might be swayed to make a "popular" decision rather than the right one. They figured the Senate would be a check on this. Poll-taking = Hamilton spinning in his grave.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
18. Republicans might be surprised, if they stall this
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:28 PM
Feb 2016

There's a good chance of a Sanders appointment, or a Trump appointment. They would hate the former for sure, and might hate the latter as well. In their separate ways, neither can be counted upon by the status quo.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
21. Strange wording in the Political Wire headline
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:19 AM
Feb 2016

I would say "evenly divided". "Completely divided" implies there are no undecideds, but apparently there are.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
22. Just ask them if Americans should vote for the Supreme Court Justices.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:23 AM
Feb 2016

They can campaign and get super pacs and run ads and the VOTERS can decide.

That's what the right seems to want---the VOTERS to decide. So when it's a Republican president he or she should not be allowed to appoint anyone--the VOTERS should decide.

But of course that would be different. That would be trashing the Constitution.

Hypocrites.

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