Clinton Strong in South Carolina But Warning Signs Ahead, Bloomberg Poll Shows

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Source: Bloomberg.com

In South Carolina, where African-Americans account for about half of the Democratic vote, Clinton leads Sanders among black likely Democratic voters, 59 percent to 20 percent. But the state's white likely Democratic primary voters narrowly prefer Sanders, 45 percent to 42 percent, and Sanders is the runaway favorite with whites under 45 in the survey, 67 percent to 22 percent. "It isn't that Sanders has faded. But she's just holding a commanding lead" in South Carolina, said pollster J. Ann Selzer, whose firm conducted the survey. "If you're Clinton and you've just come out of a crushing defeat in New Hampshire and there's Bernie-mania everywhere with younger people, your footing isn't that sure," Selzer said, adding, "There's nothing to sneer at in terms of how Bernie Sanders is doing."

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Again, though, it's black voters giving her that edge. When only the white voters' sentiments are examined, Clinton has the advantage on only eight of the 16 traits. Majorities of white survey respondents see Sanders as more likely to take on powerful financial interests, bring about change, care about people like them, be progressive and understand young people. Whites are divided over whether Clinton or Sanders better understands the black community, and give Sanders a slim edge on better representing King's legacy.

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The March 1 contests for Democrats also include Colorado, with an increasingly important Latino vote; Virginia, where non-whites were about four in 10 voters; and Tennessee, where blacks and Hispanics were about one-third of the 2008 Democratic primary turnout.
Barack Obama defeated Clinton in South Carolina's 2008 primary, a wrenching contest that stirred up racial tensions. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, sought long ago to repair rifts in the state and have been counting on their longstanding alliances with black politicians and preachers to help her hold the state. And while in both Iowa and New Hampshire, independents and young or inexperienced voters could make a game-day decision to participate, South Carolina requires advance registration, so there’s less opportunity for a Sanders election-day surge.

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Still, the survey shows Sanders' youth fan base isn't all white hipsters. Among blacks under 45 in the survey Clinton held only a modest advantage. The survey also found Clinton's contention that Sanders' plans are wildly unrealistic hadn't taken hold in South Carolina. Fifty-seven percent of South Carolinians in the Democratic survey say Sanders' goal of passing Medicare-for-all legislation is realistic; 49 percent say he can get a constitutional amendment to overturn unlimited contributions to political action committees, and 46 percent say he can dramatically restructure Wall Street. "I did not vote for Hillary when she ran in the primary the last time and I really was not looking to vote for her again," said Amy Cue, a 34-year-old (African-American) social worker from Columbia, who participated in the survey. "Once I read about Bernie Sanders and where he stood in terms of education and economic equality and where he wants to take us, he was my choice. I can't say that I don't like her. I just think that Bernie speaks to issues I'm more passionate about. ... I have, I think, gotten one phone call, maybe," from the Clinton campaign. "It's like she doesn't have to work for my vote, when, in actuality, 'Yes, you do."

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-18/clinton-strong-in-south-carolina-but-warning-signs-ahead-bloomberg-poll-shows

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The more Democrats and Independents of all races and ages learn about Sanders, the more they like him. The reverse is true of Clinton. Her unfavorability rating just keeps climbing and climbing, that's without the upcoming indictment that will doom her candidacy and give the Republicans all three branches of government.

[vdogg]

1. How is this a warning sign

When literally every major state is more diverse than Iowa and New Hampshire? She has substantial leads in 10 of the 12 Super Tuesday states. Where is the meme coming from?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. Not THAT diverse.

Black people are only about 12.5% of the population of the country as a whole, and tend to be concentrated in certain states like SC. So for them to make up half the voting population in a given state is actually extremely unusual.

[trillion]

13. The wonderful thing is 1/2 in South Carolina (where I used to live) have worken up about Hillary.

[onehandle]

15. The meme is coming from the writer's 9th grade creative writing class. nt

[geek tragedy]

4. so you're telling black people they don't know what's good for them? nt

[geek tragedy]

11. I'm sure they appreciate you whitesplaining that to them. nt

[trillion]

12. First of all, YOU put the words, that I'm telling blacks anything into my mouth.

I didn't.

And it was painfully obvious it was to pull the racism card.

I'm a woman and I don't pull the gender card where it doesn't exist because it de-values the card. Just saying.

I'm not going to expect you to come up with any argument about my post because it's clear your angle is to ignore it, ignore Hillarys funders and and ignore how they aren't a help to minorities or whites, and instead support Hillary and yell racism if someone questions blacks supporting her.

That said, I am now blocking you because of the despicable level you immediately went for - YOU put words into my mouth that I was telling blacks anything. I am not. I was commenting to everyone else. Welcome to my ignore list.

[trillion]

7. But then I'm also listening to some pretty dang informed blacks

Michele Alexander author of the New Jim Crow was horrified when she saw the black support for Hillary. Ben Jealous previous head of the NAACP is also surprised and both can tell exactly why. How about listening to them? I'm also adding Ta-Nehisi Coates who is on the front of Democracynow.org right now.

I'll go get links so you can hear it from their mouths...

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/9/hillary_clinton_the_mass_incarceration_machine

Scholar Michelle Alexander made headlines last week when she wrote a critical post about Hillary Clinton’s record on criminal justice issues. "I can’t believe Hillary would be coasting into the primaries with her current margin of black support if most people knew how much damage the Clintons have done—the millions of families [that were] destroyed the last time they were in the White House thanks to their boastful embrace of the mass incarceration machine and their total capitulation to the right-wing narrative on race, crime, welfare and taxes." We look back at Clinton’s record with three guests: Darnell Moore, a member of the New York City chapter of Black Lives Matter; former Vermont Governor Madeleine Kunin; and former NAACP President Benjamin Jealous.


http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/9/ex_naacp_head_ben_jealous_sanders
Likening him to Jesse Jackson in the 1980s, former NAACP President Benjamin Jealous praises Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders for consistently addressing the issues that Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. referred to as the "giant triplets of evil"—racism, militarism and greed. We speak to Jealous in North Carolina. He was just in South Carolina campaigning for Sanders ahead of that state’s primary.


http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/10/ta_nehisi_coates_is_voting_for
The acclaimed writer Ta-Nehisi Coates, author of "Between the World and Me," has written some of the most discussed articles on the presidential race looking at Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and his position on reparations. Coates wrote the articles after Sanders appeared at the Black and Brown Forum in Iowa and said he did not support reparations for slavery because it is too "divisive" an issue. While his critique of Sanders generated headlines, today Coates talks on Democracy Now! about why he still plans to vote for the Vermont senator.

[geek tragedy]

9. are you black? nt

[Major Hogwash]

20. Excellent post.

A lot of good information in that comment.

[snagglepuss]

8. Welcome to Politics 101. There's no handholding in politics. The lifeblood of politics

is the attempt of one group of people to convince another group of why they are right and the other is wrong, all premised on the notion that people not only are able but also enjoy heated debate.

[geek tragedy]

10. No, Politics 101 is to not pompously insult people when you're trying to convince them of something

[malokvale77]

14. Then cut it out! nt

[snagglepuss]

16. What is your idea of a pompous insult?

[geek tragedy]

17. for a white person to lecture black people that they're not educated if they disagree

with the white person and don't know what's good for people of their own race

[snagglepuss]

18. 1) How do you know the race of anyone online? 2) In every country, across ethnic, religious &racial

lines, since voting began, countless people have voted against their interests for any number of reasons. Why shouldn't people of another race or ethnicity or religion attempt to sway opinions of others who are not like themselves? Laying out facts which you deem as lecturing is part and parcel of arguments. You seem to be of the opinion that it is simply a one way street but if an argument is in good faith than either side can influence the other.

[geek tragedy]

3. Really? "Whites are divided over whether Clinton or Sanders better understands the black community"

Exactly 0.0% of white people are qualified to answer who better understands the black community.

[vdogg]

19. Just give up

I've pulled my hair out trying to explain, it's not worth the headache. Super Tuesday is in a few weeks and everyone will have a better understanding of where we stand.

[elljay]

22. Reminded me of Dave Chappelle

He had a segment on his show called "I Know Black People" in which he would ask non-black people questions about black culture and slang. Funny.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/s6ew40/chappelle-s-show-i-know-black-people-pt--1

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21. double posting this, because it belongs here.

Note, under intense pressure Hillary announced at the end of October that she will quit accepting funding from the private prison industry.

2 different videos with the first frame exactly the same. This one she refuses the donations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-private-prisons_us_562a3e3ee4b0ec0a389418ec

Should we clap for something she shouldn't have been doing in the first place? But then there's a lot in her current super pac that she still shouldn't be doing.

[George II]

25. "Warning signs ahead"? Right, the Clinton campaign doesn't want to win by too much!