Snowden: Would return to US with guarantee of fair trial
Source: AP
Speaking via Skype from Russia, Edward Snowden told an audience of supporters in New Hampshire on Saturday that he is willing to be extradited to the United States if the federal government would guarantee he would get a fair trial.
The former National Security Agency contractor in 2013 leaked details of a secret government eavesdropping program and left the country. He faces U.S. charges that could land him in prison for up to 30 years.
Snowden spoke Saturday at the New Hampshire Liberty Forum, heavily attended by libertarians. WMUR reported that forum organizers did not allow the media to video record his remarks.
"I've told the government I would return if they would guarantee a fair trial where I can make a public interest defense of why this was done and allow a jury to decide," Snowden told his audience.
Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-return-us-guarantee-fair-trial-043059728.html
How ya likin' those Moscow winters, Eddie?
And not allowing the media to video record your remarks? What's up with that, Mr. Freedom of Information?
hlthe2b
(102,387 posts)I'd say the writing was on the wall for him. He's going to have to stay in Russia if he wants to escape bars, I'm pretty convinced.
"Justice" seems to be in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.
getagrip_already
(14,848 posts)He sounds like trump.
Sure, he can have a fair trial, just like everyone else who steals thousands of classified documents and takes them to china and russia.
Come on home. A fair trial awaits.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)...Unless you consider the treatment of Chelsea Manning fair...
We live in a world where lies and propaganda hits the headlines, and the truth suppressed...
To bad he doesnt have apple phone codes...oh wait, maybe he can get a job there and steal them.....
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)he couldnt get a fair trial its because there is plenty of video of him admitting to breaking the law in regards to the handling of classified information.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)More like "rig the system by changing the laws so I can get off"
His "unfair trial" claims have long, long since been debunked... He's getting to be as bad as Assange...
Eddie should have taken whatever plea deal was on the table...
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)protecting the criminals they exposed and go after the whistleblowers instead?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)since after all, if his cause is so just and righteous, he should be burning for his day in court...And I'm not sure what kind of "whistleblower" defects to Moscow and leaks a bunch of non-whistleblowing stories...
The Special Snowflake continues to conflate "likely to be found guilty" with "unfair trial"... Even he knows this, he's just playing a PR angle here to let his fans believe that he still has some control over his fate. (Hint: He doesn't -- Snowflake is completely under Russian control for the indefinite future)
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)potone
(1,701 posts)The inability, or unwillingness, of some people to face what has happened to our civil liberties post-9/11 is amazing.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)and he could have easily fit under the whiteblower fig leaf but releasing extensive details on what the government had is where he crossed the line from whiteblower.
mpcamb
(2,878 posts)It's a guarantee against an unlawful action of a government.
When the government is WRONG it cannot be a crime to report it to the public.
It can't be minimalized. It's not a fig... no matter what Republicans try to tell you.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)information also about intelligence gathered oveaseas against foreign governments and that crosses the line.
potone
(1,701 posts)What on earth is that?
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)and we supported them.
Funny how we cannot recognize dissent in our own borders. Seems that is part of a country's departure from just and democratic principles.
potone
(1,701 posts)I think he did a great service to this nation, and I consider him a hero. Those who criticize him for being in Russia conveniently forget that the US government canceled his passport so he could not travel.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)...then you tell me he'd ever get a fair trial on US soil.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)would not be convicted because those are as good as a confession.
If had kept his mouth shut he might have been able to get alot of the evidence thrown out or suppressed and maybe plead down to a lesser charge but the interviews make that next to impossible because the prosecutor will use those videos and interviews he gave against him.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)
His only chance now that Paul has dropped out is Sanders.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)but Gen. Petraeus really got punished for far worse.
A slap on the wrist and paid retirement. What a deal.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)he should be welcomed home. I'd salute him.
randome
(34,845 posts)Ask James O'Keefe about that. He's only serving the public interest because...well, because he says so.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesnt always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one youre already in.[/center][/font][hr]
But I've seen the documentary and the interviews and I believe him FWIW. Plus I don't see any other motive that makes sense when he knew he would suffer the consequences. I believe he weighed everything and decided he couldn't keep silent about it.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Oh well.
Enjoy Russia!
americannightmare
(322 posts)They'll renege, guaranteed!
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)so good luck with that Mr. Snowden.
No way is any prosecutor going to be bound to let him present an affirmative defense of public interest/necessity. At least one juror would hang the panel in any number of trials.
And I don't see why Snowden should get a better guarantee of a fair trial than any of the other tens of thousands of accused/litigants who only get the bullshit version.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)fair trials are a myth.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)it is the varies interviews Snowden himself gave which have him on record admitting it.
If those didnt exist he might have a chance of acquittal but since they do exist I dont see any way a jury wouldnt convict him.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)maybe the people are not consciously biased, but biased just the same.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)he might have a shot at getting acquitted or atleast at plea bargaining.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)If he is convicted, the trail wasn't fair, QED.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)No sympathy for Snowden.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The guy is a real hero.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)Snowden is no fire fighter.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)He stuck his neck out for us because he couldn't keep silent about what was going on behind closed doors.
I think he deserves a parade, not a trial.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)and would not be a candidate to sit on a jury to to try his case. I think almost everyone in this country has a bias either for or against him. So, of course he isn't coming back. He could never receive a fair trial.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)You would be suicided.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)lark
(23,160 posts)When both sides of the government hate your every breath, a fair trial is not going to happen. So sorry.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)So,yea. C'mon back.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)They miscalculated badly in their attempt to sway public opinion. Privacy takes a back seat to security it seems. So far, Apple is making the same miscalculation.
The poll found that 51 percent of those surveyed think the tech giant should create the software to unlock the phone and assist the FBI in the investigation. Slightly more than one third (38 percent) said that Apple should not unlock the phone and 11 percent did not know.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/pew-survey-apple-iphone-fbi-219629#ixzz40w8ZaaCn