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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:53 PM Feb 2016

Mitt Romney suggests there's a "bombshell" in Donald Trump's taxes

Source: CBS News

Former Republican nominee Mitt Romney called Wednesday on the 2016 GOP hopefuls to release their tax returns, saying he suspects there's a "bombshell" in frontrunner Donald Trump's -- a comment that prompted Trump to call Romney a "fool."

"We're now, you know, in late February and we still haven't seen either Donald Trump's or Marco Rubio's or Ted Cruz's taxes," Romney said in an interview on Fox News. "Frankly, the voters have a right to see those tax returns before they decide who our nominee ought to be."

<snip>

Well, I think there's something there," Romney explained. "Either he's not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn't been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay, or perhaps he hasn't been giving money to the vets or to the disabled like he's been telling us he's been doing."

He also blasted Trump's "weaving and delay" when asked about the release of his tax returns. "I think the last time he was asked about his taxes he said, 'Well, it's going to be a month,'" Romney said. "Look, people have a right to know if there's a problem in those taxes before they decide."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitt-romney-suggests-theres-a-bombshell-in-donald-trumps-taxes/




As I recall R-money certainly took his time before releasing his tax returns as well. But hey, go get 'em Mitt - this will be some great theater.
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Mitt Romney suggests there's a "bombshell" in Donald Trump's taxes (Original Post) groundloop Feb 2016 OP
Trump will do the same as Hillary does... "After everyone else releases theirs" tk2kewl Feb 2016 #1
Nooooo....the Hillary reference is a bit of a fail. MADem Feb 2016 #15
Like that matters... He will say it anyway. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #17
No--what you did here was a cheap shot. I'm calling you on it, too. MADem Feb 2016 #22
Transcripts? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #23
Thanks for proving my point so decisively. nt MADem Feb 2016 #24
It's relevant whether you want it to be or not tk2kewl Feb 2016 #25
Yep, it's destroying any chance she has of winning the nomination ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #28
might makes right uhnope Feb 2016 #35
And bumper stickers make less than compelling arguments LanternWaste Feb 2016 #56
um...wtf uhnope Feb 2016 #63
Annnnd....the derailment double down! MADem Feb 2016 #33
Nice to know that she released her taxes. When will she release the transcripts The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #61
Obsessed with her speeches? itcfish Feb 2016 #65
Yes, release the transcripts The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #66
Good for you! pandr32 Feb 2016 #43
Secretary Clinton is asking for all transcripts, from everyone, not just Sanders Babel_17 Feb 2016 #54
Come On Now itcfish Feb 2016 #64
Well, here's somebody who knows about releasing tax forms dhol82 Feb 2016 #2
That came from Romney who refused to turn over all of his own tax returns? keithbvadu2 Feb 2016 #3
Then all he has to do is what Mitt did and not release the returns. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #4
Mitt did release his youceyec Feb 2016 #10
Mitt released about three years worth of returns, if I recall correctly. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #14
If memory serves seabeckind Feb 2016 #50
obviously there must be. drray23 Feb 2016 #5
"successful businessman", whose companies have declared bankruptcy 4 times groundloop Feb 2016 #8
Who blew through his inheritance in the 90s TexasBushwhacker Feb 2016 #20
Sure they will be skepticscott Feb 2016 #42
It's going to kill Romney Chemisse Feb 2016 #6
Lord, they've called on the ghost of Republicans Past...Probably need someone who you know, AzDar Feb 2016 #7
I thought Mitt didn't release all his taxes, either. MADem Feb 2016 #9
But Reid lied about Romney's taxes. A few times. 7962 Feb 2016 #13
LIED? Really? I never heard him LIE. What an odd thing for a Democrat to say. MADem Feb 2016 #18
He said Romney didnt pay any taxes for 10 years with no proof. 7962 Feb 2016 #30
I am going to need an exact quote, and a source citation. MADem Feb 2016 #32
Link 7962 Feb 2016 #36
Mitt Romney brought forward one return and one "estimate" pandr32 Feb 2016 #45
WTH? You're defending a hypocritic repug who refused to release his own taxes . . . brush Feb 2016 #48
So its OK if OUR side does shady shit, but BAD when the OTHER side does it. 7962 Feb 2016 #57
You must have voted for Romney. And he never released all of his taxes . . . brush Feb 2016 #60
You ignore the point of the issue. The lying. I'm not defending Romney. 7962 Feb 2016 #62
Exactly! It was a yuuuuuge story back then when Romney wouldn't release his taxes. brush Feb 2016 #46
Mitt still wants the big prize BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #11
Mr. Pot shadowmayor Feb 2016 #12
Beat me to it!! Coventina Feb 2016 #44
Well he ought to know... HoosierRadical Feb 2016 #16
From one tax scofflaw to another..... wolfie001 Feb 2016 #19
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Feb 2016 #21
Look who's talking! He only released SOME of his taxes when he was running. nt valerief Feb 2016 #26
Trump is just playing with everyone houston16revival Feb 2016 #27
Bingo! Myrina Feb 2016 #47
Well I missed Mitt... Kalidurga Feb 2016 #29
This is pretty funny, oldandhappy Feb 2016 #31
+1. nt MADem Feb 2016 #34
I don't think the term "bombshell" applies to Trump Alhena Feb 2016 #37
It. won't. matter. Javaman Feb 2016 #38
What's more sad Wibly Feb 2016 #39
Mitt R$ of ALL people wants candidates to release their tax information??? C Moon Feb 2016 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #41
Trump "suggests" things about people TNNurse Feb 2016 #49
Trump will not lose one minute of sleep over that yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #51
I love that Mitt, of all people, is demanding that Trump reveal his tax returns. Nitram Feb 2016 #52
Oh, the irony! FourScore Feb 2016 #53
Everyone is missing the real story here nichomachus Feb 2016 #55
But how? After the next couple weeks, most delegates will be claimed, right? 7962 Feb 2016 #58
thousands ask olddots Feb 2016 #59
What is more important! Did Mitt or Trump Release itcfish Feb 2016 #67
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
17. Like that matters... He will say it anyway.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton created the standard for how to respond when asked to reveal information you don't want to let out. I'll put money on him saying it if anyone pushes him on it

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. No--what you did here was a cheap shot. I'm calling you on it, too.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

This is not a thread about HRC, she has released her taxes, she's not involved in this matter at all, yet you DRAGGED her into it in convoluted fashion for partisan purposes.

Pat yourself on the back tk2kewl. Way to sink the discourse.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. And bumper stickers make less than compelling arguments
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

And bumper stickers make less than compelling arguments. They are however, a wonderful tool for half-wits and the sub-literate.

 
61. Nice to know that she released her taxes. When will she release the transcripts
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

to her speeches to Wall Street?

It's been nearly 3 weeks.

 
66. Yes, release the transcripts
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

Her 32% trustworthiness rating is extremely stunning.

When was the *LAST* time a Democrat won the nomination with such low favorable numbers?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
54. Secretary Clinton is asking for all transcripts, from everyone, not just Sanders
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

So, if using that logic, then Secretary Clinton releasing her tax forms isn't enough, she's the equivalent of Senator Sanders releasing his transcripts of speeches to investment bankers, and Wall Street. Clinton has asked for more than that. She wants all speeches to every group, from every politician, before she'll release hers.

All Democrats have to copy Clinton's admirable lead in releasing her tax returns in order for Clinton to avoid the media calling attention to the disparity of standards.

Sanders can call out Trump on not releasing his returns, Clinton will have a harder time doing so in the media. Anyone who thinks the media won't mention the transcripts in the same article that headlines Clinton asking for Trump's tax returns; raise your hand.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
64. Come On Now
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

But demanding Hillary release her "speeches" equates to Trump releasing his taxes??? Old double standard eh?

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
10. Mitt did release his
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:14 PM
Feb 2016

why are u making stuff up? He paid almost no taxes and was very generous when it came to charity.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
14. Mitt released about three years worth of returns, if I recall correctly.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

George Romney set the standard and released all his records in 1968 before he got brainwashed.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
50. If memory serves
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:08 AM
Feb 2016

I believe he released 3 years of revised returns.

He didn't release the unrevised nor the returns that couldn't be revised.

Just more proof of dishonesty.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
5. obviously there must be.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

Once you reach these levels of wealth, it is very likely you would have some questionable things on your tax records. Not necessarely illegal but right up the line and certanly immoral. On top of it, Trump also has his image to protect. If it turns out he is not as wealthy as he claims, it would put a dent in his image of successful businessman.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
20. Who blew through his inheritance in the 90s
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

with high living and bad business decisions and had to be bailed out with $25 Million from his siblings.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
42. Sure they will be
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:56 AM
Feb 2016

But anyone that wealthy will have paid people boatloads of money to do their taxes, and to make them look at least superficially acceptable. Any "anomalies" in Trump's taxes are likely to be so convoluted and esoteric that they will be beyond most people's reckoning, especially people who are dumb and deluded enough to support him in the first place. If you're already voting for Trump, finding out that his offshore corporation took too much depreciation on capital assets in 2012 isn't going to put you off. And even if he's dodging, they'll just admire him for sticking it to The Man!

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
7. Lord, they've called on the ghost of Republicans Past...Probably need someone who you know,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016

didn't REFUSE to release his own returns to be pointing this out...IDIOTS.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. I thought Mitt didn't release all his taxes, either.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

Didn't Harry Reid gig him on his "tithing" within the Mormon community?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. But Reid lied about Romney's taxes. A few times.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

And excused it just a couple months ago by saying "he didnt win, did he?"

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. LIED? Really? I never heard him LIE. What an odd thing for a Democrat to say.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

I heard he made suggestions that some things might be amiss, and that releasing the taxes would clear those up. I remember him ASKING QUESTIONS, not ... LYING.

The point he was aiming for, IIRC, was the amount of tax Mitt was (or wasn't) paying. He was using the whole tithing canard to "smoke him outta his hole."

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
30. He said Romney didnt pay any taxes for 10 years with no proof.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

And he never provided ANY proof because there wasnt any. Romney's taxes showed that he did pay taxes as well as millions in charity. So it was a lie, but you can label it anyway you like. “The word's out that he [Romney] hasn't paid any taxes for 10 years.” Thats a lie.
The Wash Post gave Reid 4 Pinocchios for saying it.
It shouldnt matter WHAT party one belongs to when referring to underhanded bullshit. Thats why I also dont like Grayson.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. I am going to need an exact quote, and a source citation.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

I think your memory of what Senator Reid said might be compromised.

WAPO often takes issue with Reid because he's crusty and tough and doesn't always give their reporters what they want. However, I see nothing that could possibly be called a LIE in that 'quote' you provided. If WAPO was "Pinocchio-ing" him for that concise term, there was likely more to it than that--they were gigging HIM for not giving them something they wanted.

ANYTHING can follow "The word is out." Anything at all.


"The word is out that Trump has hair extensions."

"The word is out that Marco Rubio is afraid of tabby cats."

"The word is out that Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen."

Saying "The word is out" doesn't mean "It's an indisputable fact." It indicates that people are talking about a distinct possibility. It's akin to the term "Rumor has it." It's a DC way to spread rumors without being quite so In-Yer-Face about it.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
36. Link
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/four-pinocchios-for-harry-reids-claim-about-mitt-romneys-taxes/2012/08/06/c31a1402-e007-11e1-8fc5-a7dcf1fc161d_blog.html

Dithering over the word "lie" is semantics. He knew when he said it that he was making it up & it wasnt true. He didnt care.
If you say "the word is out" how is that giving any option that it may be false?

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
45. Mitt Romney brought forward one return and one "estimate"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

The single full return was neat as a pin--suspiciously so. There was no mention of any of his off-shore wealth. The "estimate" is not an actual filed return, and to my knowledge he never brought forward the real one.
Harry Reid knew what he was talking about. After all Mitt Romney, and his Bain Capital, were the leaders in instruction in how to outsource and offshore for American businesses, and how to avoid paying taxes.

brush

(53,782 posts)
48. WTH? You're defending a hypocritic repug who refused to release his own taxes . . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:42 AM
Feb 2016

and calling a dem senate leader a liar who called Romney on it.

Why?

With this crap DU is surely turning to sh_t.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
57. So its OK if OUR side does shady shit, but BAD when the OTHER side does it.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:26 PM
Feb 2016

Fine, if that the way you think. I'm fair minded regardless of what letter is behind the name.
Reid made up a story & he never backed it up when pressed for proof several times. He lied. Theres no other way to describe it.
If Mitch Mcconnell said Pres Obama hadnt paid any taxes for 10 years and provided NO proof, everyone here would be calling him out on it and rightfully so. Because its a bullshit tactic & theres no call for it.
Read the linked story; there was plenty of proof that romney paid his taxes & gave plenty to charity.

brush

(53,782 posts)
60. You must have voted for Romney. And he never released all of his taxes . . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

like all th other candidates so we really don't know if he paid all his taxes.

But defend away.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
62. You ignore the point of the issue. The lying. I'm not defending Romney.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:04 AM
Feb 2016

I'm criticizing Reid's tactics. Its just like the old "When did you stop beating your wife?" joke.
Reid put out a story that he had no evidence to back up. The WaPost showed that it was a bullshit story. Its hypocrisy to blast republicans but excuse democrats for doing the same crap. ALL should be held to the same standard

brush

(53,782 posts)
46. Exactly! It was a yuuuuuge story back then when Romney wouldn't release his taxes.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

Talk about hypocrisy.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
21. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

Would that be the Mitt Romney who refused to reveal all HIS returns for religous reasons? Well, I don't blame him for being outraged, especially since presidential candidates have been doing it since his own father came up with the idea...with one exception...


rocktivity

houston16revival

(953 posts)
27. Trump is just playing with everyone
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

Running roughshod over everything, he's doused Republican ideology and
candidates, he'll do the same to Hillary or Bernie, and when he gets in office
he'll do the same to anything and everything to suit himself. Everything the
Federal government does will be in play.

If you've ever dealt with a narcissist, this is exactly what they do. Make a lot
of noise, rush in and tell everyone they're doing everything wrong, tell them what to do,
take what they want, and leave the victims confused, fleeced, gasping for air. Look
at how bewildered and powerless the GOP Establishment is right now. They don't know
what to do.

In the process they seem exciting, energizing, the coolest people, upbeat and fun
to be around, born leaders! Later, reality sets in.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
31. This is pretty funny,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

given that Mitt himself never came clean on the taxes thing. He released some, but never answered the questions which peppered his campaign.

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
37. I don't think the term "bombshell" applies to Trump
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

the kind of "bombshells" that ruin most politicians' careers happen to him at least once a week. And he continues to win primaries- he seems to be immune to that kind of thing.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
38. It. won't. matter.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

oh mitten's you think this is how politics used to be.

you're so funny.

you ran after your 47% of wealthy donors.

tRump is his own donor.

so him having a "bombshell" in his taxes will amount to nothing and even if it is something, his mouth breathing moron supporters won't care.

that's what you, mittens, and the rest of the repub establishment morons haven't figured out yet, the republican mouth breathing rabble hate you.

if you say anything about tRumps taxes, you will be the one that is hated and suspect, not tRump.

--------------

it's really funny watching this old dyed in the wool repuke politicians trying to pull a fast one on tRump. tRump has them figured out.

Wibly

(613 posts)
39. What's more sad
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:31 AM
Feb 2016

I don't know what is more sad guys: Listening to the politicians talk, or how you all talk about your politics and politicians. Seems like everyone is somehow entrenched into some sort of biased position. Even when you're on the same side. It's weird.
Just sayin'.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
40. Mitt R$ of ALL people wants candidates to release their tax information???
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

At first I thought this was Onion satire.
I can't stand that bastard: a two-faced lying sack of lard.
...and I'm not upset because he's picking on Trump—or whoever—it's just ironic how he refused to show his taxes in 2012.

Response to groundloop (Original post)

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
49. Trump "suggests" things about people
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:04 AM
Feb 2016

every time he speaks. Seems fair game, he loves saying "I don't know, but....."

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
51. Trump will not lose one minute of sleep over that
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:14 AM
Feb 2016

He OWNS the game... his attorneys are the best money can buy.
He may well turn out to be the armor-plated Trump.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
52. I love that Mitt, of all people, is demanding that Trump reveal his tax returns.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:24 AM
Feb 2016

Mr Offshore himself.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
55. Everyone is missing the real story here
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

The tax issue is a red herring.

What I've noticed over the last few days is the resurrection of Mitt Romney. We've heard nothing from this douchebag for three+ years. All of a sudden, I'm seeing story after story about him.

I'm beginning to wonder if the GOP isn't trying to float some trial balloons to see whether this corporatist retread can solve their Trump problem. No one in the current GOP field has a snowball's chance.

But Mitt could come on the scene as the "sane" alternative to Trump. The corporatists may not like Mitt all that much, but even they have to knuckle under to "lesser of two evilism" at some point. He has money, experience, name recognition, etc.

He could be their ace in the hole to "save the party." Why else is he popping up day after day now?

Stay tuned.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
58. But how? After the next couple weeks, most delegates will be claimed, right?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

How could he just get "put" in position if Trump cruz and rubio have 85% of the delegates already claimed by votes cast?

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