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Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:07 AM Mar 2016

Japan's nuclear refugees face bleak return five years after Fukushima

Source: Reuters

Tokuo Hayakawa carries a dosimeter around with him at his 600-year-old temple in Naraha, the first town in the Fukushima "exclusion zone" to fully reopen since Japan's March 2011 catastrophe. Badges declaring "No to nuclear power" adorn his black Buddhist robe.

Hayakawa is one of the few residents to return to this agricultural town since it began welcoming back nuclear refugees five months ago.

The town, at the edge of a 20-km (12.5 mile) evacuation zone around the crippled Fukushima Daiichi plant, was supposed to be a model of reconstruction.

Five years ago, one of the biggest earthquakes in history shook the country's northeast. The 10-metre (33-foot) tsunami it spawned smashed into the power plant on the Fukushima coastline triggering a meltdown and forcing nearby towns to evacuate. The disaster killed over 19,000 people across Japan and caused an estimated 16.9 trillion yen ($150 billion) in damages.

Only 440 of Naraha's pre-disaster population 8,042 have returned - nearly 70 percent of them over 60.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-disaster-return-idUSKCN0W430X

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Japan's nuclear refugees face bleak return five years after Fukushima (Original Post) Lodestar Mar 2016 OP
The town of Futaba is apparently faring better Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #1
This last months, (February,) issue of Popular Science madokie Mar 2016 #2
What killed the 19,000 people? NNadir Mar 2016 #3
How do you know that "anti-nukes couldn't care less about those (air pollution) deaths"? Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #4
The source of my knowledge on this point is readily contained in the nature of the question asked. NNadir Mar 2016 #5

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
1. The town of Futaba is apparently faring better
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:32 AM
Mar 2016

I have recently had the pleasure of being involved in a project that tells Futaba's story to the world. The town has been making a great effort to recover from the devastating effects of the tsunami, earthquake and nuclear disaster. It is currently working on an English translation of its web site that introduces viewers to scenes from the disaster and the town as it is today.

http://www.slis.tsukuba.ac.jp/futaba-archives/walk/

Scenes from the tsunami

http://www.slis.tsukuba.ac.jp/futaba-archives/link_tsunamiphoto/

Scenes of the town as it is today (seen from the roof of the town hall)

http://www.slis.tsukuba.ac.jp/futaba-archives/category/cat_nowadays/townhall/

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. This last months, (February,) issue of Popular Science
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

has a well written, detailed article about Fukushima that everyone who advocates for more nuclear energy should read.
This issue also has a well written detailed article on President Obama as well that is more than worth the purchase price of the magazine. Popular Science magazine has really turned a corner during this last year of so. With a new Editor, (Cliff Ransom,) comes some very interesting reading.

http://www.popsci.com/fukushima-five-years-later

http://www.popsci.com/features/interview-with-president-barack-obama/?dom=psc&loc=mainnav&lnk=potus

Need I say more. both well worth the time it takes to read them. dm

NNadir

(33,521 posts)
3. What killed the 19,000 people?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

Was it the reactors or was it...um...buildings?

Which has killed more people in the 20th century? Tsunamis or nuclear power?

Which has killed more people in the last 20 years, air pollution or nuclear power?

One of the interesting things about anti-nukes, is that they isolate a nuclear event from every other risk. Deaths from air pollution are reported in Lancet to be on the order of 7 million people per year. That means in the 21st century more than 100 million people have died from air pollution. Unsurprisingly, anti-nukes couldn't care less about those deaths.

Nuclear power?

My contention is that more people have been killed by the air pollution connected to the generation of power to run computers to post anti-nuke hooey on the internet than have been killed by the failure of the reactors at Fukushima.

By the way, one of the world's preeminent scientific journals has recently published a paper saying that the real problem connected to the reactors has been the failure of regulatory bodies to recognize that many areas of Japan are actually of minimal risk and that are closed unnecessarily: Environ. Sci. Technol., 2016, 50 (3), pp 1075–1076

Anti-nuke fear and ignorance is definitely the province of people poorly equipped to think.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. How do you know that "anti-nukes couldn't care less about those (air pollution) deaths"?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

"Anti-nukes" are generally "pro-environment", which means they are also concerned about air pollution. However, air pollution deaths are spread around the world-- there's not much we as individuals can do about air pollution in Beijing, for example.

And as someone who lives close to what is still a nuclear exclusion zone and who had to be prepared for a possible evacuation (the French family who lived near me were actually told to evacuate by their government), I take offense at your dismissal of concerns about nuclear power as "anti-nuke fear and ignorance".

NNadir

(33,521 posts)
5. The source of my knowledge on this point is readily contained in the nature of the question asked.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

[link:http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3051197|]First of all, we're talking science vs. anecdote.

Here is the scientific publication, authored by an international consortium of academic physicians, epidemiologists, and statisticians on risk factors and human health:

A comparative risk assessment of burden of disease and injury attributable to 67 risk factors and risk factor clusters in 21 regions, 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010 (Lancet 2012, 380, 2224–60: For air pollution mortality figures see Table 3, page 2238 and the text on page 2240.)

Note that this paper is not merely devoted to questions of air pollution, but to the 67 major causes of mortality as represented risk factors.

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere in this presentation is exposure to so called "nuclear exclusion zones" mentioned, but the millions of deaths each year from air pollution are mentioned, among many other risk factors, obesity, poor nutrition, accidents, suicide, all kinds of things that are clearly and unambiguously more important that "nuclear exclusion zones," that one hears endlessly about from people who hold science in clear contempt. These are often, in my experience, quite willing and able to display openly that contempt for science arising from a lack of familiarity of the contents of any scientific literature whatsoever, with the possible exception of poorly written accounts written by scientifically illiterate journalists.

The figure for outdoor air pollution, each year that caused by the burning of fossil fuels and the out venting of so called "renewable" biomass burning is given as a most probable value of 3.22 million human lives per year, with a range at a 95% uncertainty range of between 2.83 million and 3.63 million. The deaths from indoor air pollution are reported to by the international consortium of authors as 3.48 million human beings per year, with a range, again at a 95% uncertainty range of between 2.68 million to 4.63 million, each year.

The data for outdoor air pollution has been also discussed in a more recent paper in one of the world's most important and preeminent scientific journals in the world Nature.

I actually wrote a post here in this space pointing to this dire report: Nature: China's annual air pollution deaths now stand at 1.4 million per year.

The number of anti-nukes who showed up in this post - and I am familiar with many of the most ignorant examples of this class of people who write dangerous anti-nuke nonsense here is zero.

Zero.

In the cases of these scientifically illiterate anti-nukes to whom I have endured exposure, they clearly couldn't care less about these roughly seven million deaths each year, seventy million each decade.

How many people is 70 million? It's roughly twice the population of Canada. Every decade, air pollution wipes out the equivalent of twice the population of Canada.

And when I raise these points, it is typical of the responses that I get that someone reports some anecdotal trash that they know someone who knows someone who got cancer and lived near some real or imagined nuclear tragedy. In general these people have no scientific training and no statistical training, and cannot actually identify an observed health effect as a definite causal relationship. Actually the establishment of causal relationships is the province of a type of statistics known as Bayesian statistics. The number of anti-nukes who I personally encounter who show any evidence of ever having opened a math book of any kind is uncomfortably close to zero.

Zero.

Of course there are millions of people who don't live near any nuclear facility at all but get cancer. Pretty much every reference to cancer, with few exceptions, in the Lancet paper involves either smoke or alcohol, smoke being the main source of the toxicity of um, air pollution.

The statement that "there's not much we as individuals can do about air pollution" is nonsense, appalling nonsense of the worst sort.

Education cures ignorance. Any individual can do something by resisting ignorance, by educating oneself. It is what I did. I used to be an anti-nuke, until shortly after Chernobyl. I deeply regret the criminal ignorance by which I lived up until that time.

What any individual can do about air pollution is to educate themselves and to stop spewing formulaic rote nonsense, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year and decade after decade while tens of millions of people die from said ignorance.

For the record China is doing something about air pollution: They are the world's most active builders of nuclear power plants.

The famous climate scientist Jim Hansen wrote a paper in 2013 that for a while was on the top ten list of most read papers in the important environmental journal Environmental Science and Technology.

It is here: Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen

NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University Earth Institute, 2880 Broadway, New York, New York 10025, United States

Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

The paper is open access and any damned fool - as well as any educated person - can read it. In it, by appeal to the data above and similar data, as well as fairly exhaustive analyses of the effects of Chernobyl and Fukushima, the events anti-nukes burn so much oil and gas and coal to power the computers to tell us all about on the internet, he and his corresponding coauthor show that nuclear energy has saved 1.8 million lives. It might have saved vastly more lives, tens of millions of lives, were it not for fear and ignorance foisted by clueless anti-nukes.

Over the last five years, every two weeks, I have downloaded the entire contents of Environmental Science and Technology, one of the world's preeminent scientific journals devoted to environmental issues. I have read in fairly high detail many hundreds, if not thousands of papers in this and other environmental journals on a wide range of environmental topics. The environment is my personal obsession, particularly with respect to climate change which is clearly, and unambiguously, the most important issue before humanity whether the bulk of humanity knows it or not.

I really, really, really, really object to people in the anti-nuke sets, most of whom display a clear lack of education, who identify themselves as "environmentalists," when they clearly have no idea whatsoever what an "environmentalist" actually is.

So how do I know that anti-nukes don't give a shit about air pollution deaths? To my mind, the responses are self-evident. Q.E.D.

Enjoy the weekend.

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