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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:08 PM Mar 2016

US agency says it has beaten Elon Musk and Gates to holy grail of battery storage

Source: The Guardian

Breakthrough in next generation of storage batteries could transform the US electrical grid within five to 10 years,
says research agency, Arpa-E


Large-scale energy storage systems are needed to enable electricity companies to bring more solar and wind power on to the grid. Photograph: Jan Woitas/Corbis

A US government agency says it has attained the “holy grail” of energy – the next-generation system of battery storage, that has has been hotly pursued by the likes of Bill Gates and Elon Musk.

Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (Arpa-E) – a branch of the Department of Energy – says it achieved its breakthrough technology in seven years.

Ellen Williams, Arpa-E’s director, said: “I think we have reached some holy grails in batteries – just in the sense of demonstrating that we can create a totally new approach to battery technology, make it work, make it commercially viable, and get it out there to let it do its thing,”

If that’s the case, Arpa-E has come out ahead of Gates and Musk in the multi-billion-dollar race to build the next generation battery for power companies and home storage

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/03/us-agency-says-has-beaten-elon-musk-gates-to-holy-grail-battery-storage

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US agency says it has beaten Elon Musk and Gates to holy grail of battery storage (Original Post) kpete Mar 2016 OP
I refuse to believe battery-hype stories until you can actually buy one. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1
+1 FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #13
Yeah. When Boeing puts them on 787 aircraft and has no problems, then I'll be convinced. /nt NCjack Mar 2016 #16
This, yep. n/t TygrBright Mar 2016 #17
Obviously you're not a mechanic nolabels Mar 2016 #19
So true. A drill that used to be the size of a bread mixer, plus an extra battery, would FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #20
I hope this is true. tommcc99 Mar 2016 #2
VERY COOL! Cosmocat Mar 2016 #3
Wicked cool AxionExcel Mar 2016 #4
Words, words, words. Where is the "beef"? What are the specs on the new ladjf Mar 2016 #5
Director Williams is talking big; I hope she is telling the truth. tabasco Mar 2016 #11
I've heard these types of press releases for years only to be ladjf Mar 2016 #12
Please let this be true! tabasco Mar 2016 #6
No technical details of the breakthrough technology discussed. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #7
NB: Arpa-E was founded in 2009 under Obama’s economic recovery plan AxionExcel Mar 2016 #8
The proof is in the pudding...so to speak... Raster Mar 2016 #9
So, what's it do that's better and grail-like? phantom power Mar 2016 #10
Maybe they've invented a grail-shaped beacon? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #18
clearly some spanking is in order phantom power Mar 2016 #24
"A US government agency" Phlem Mar 2016 #14
So which multinational corporation are they going to hand this technology to corkhead Mar 2016 #15
The usual suspects, the real bosses harun Mar 2016 #23
"Large-scale energy storage" - does that mean for centralized utilities only? Lodestar Mar 2016 #21
"government agency" greymouse Mar 2016 #22

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
13. +1
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Like fusion, I've seen too many of these stories about an amazing "break through", but it always turns out to be nothing.

I'll wait until I see it.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
19. Obviously you're not a mechanic
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

Not being tethered to an air-hose or a electrical cord to work on small and medium duty jobs is called FREEDOM. I can now do most of my work with lithium-Ion power, it's totally cool.

Yea, with you on waiting till things pan out but things are looking like they are going forward

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
20. So true. A drill that used to be the size of a bread mixer, plus an extra battery, would
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

take up most of a tool belt. Now the bloody thing fits in your jeans pocket. WAY better for working over glass roofs...

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
5. Words, words, words. Where is the "beef"? What are the specs on the new
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

system? What will it do that is better than current technology?

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
8. NB: Arpa-E was founded in 2009 under Obama’s economic recovery plan
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

to fund early stage research...

Of course, Republicans fought it tooth and nail. The Repubes love their twisted party and hate Obama far far more than they care about America. As usual, the Rupubes threw a stinky pants hissyfit trying to block something with beautiful potential for the United States of America.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
9. The proof is in the pudding...so to speak...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE TO SEE ADVANCES in electrical generation and storage, rendering our antiquated, dated electrical grid a thing of the past. I live in the PHX, Arizona area, and I am absolutely stunned that solar here is at a minimum. Every building, every home, EVERYTHING should be designed to take advantage of the one readily available resource Arizona has in abundance: SUNSHINE.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
14. "A US government agency"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

Which pretty much means we'll still be paying through the nose for electricity.

cause I'm sure they'll let us use off peak hours to store energy at a cheaper price right?

http://www.gizmag.com/power-home-orison-battery/39119/

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
15. So which multinational corporation are they going to hand this technology to
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

so they can sell it back to us "consumers"?

harun

(11,348 posts)
23. The usual suspects, the real bosses
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

Lockheed Martin
Boeing
BAE Systems
Raytheon
General Dynamics
Northrop Grumman
Airbus Group

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
21. "Large-scale energy storage" - does that mean for centralized utilities only?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

Is this something that individuals and off-grid customers could use as well?

greymouse

(872 posts)
22. "government agency"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

How many people here know ARPA (as opposed to ARPA-E) basically funded the development of the Internet. But go ahead, knee jerk reacters.

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