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think

(11,641 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:51 PM Apr 2016

State Department Halts Its Clinton Email Investigation, Defers to FBI

Source: ABC News

The U.S. Department of State has halted its internal review of Hillary Clinton's most sensitive emails until the FBI's own investigation is complete, the State Department announced today.

"We do not want our internal review to complicate or impede [the FBI probe]," a spokeswoman said.

In January the department revealed that during its review of Clinton's 52,000 pages of private email it had come across 22 documents that had to be upgraded to "Top Secret" and totally withheld from public release. It said at the time that it would conduct a separate internal review to determine if the secret information in those emails had been mishandled at the time the emails were sent.

Today the State Department said it is deferring that judgment to the FBI, which is conducting a more comprehensive security review of Clinton's email. The outcome of that investigation is highly anticipated amid the 2016 election cycle. Clinton has said she is confident that will not happen and that she did not break any laws with her use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-department-halts-clinton-email-investigation-defers-fbi/story?id=38083129

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State Department Halts Its Clinton Email Investigation, Defers to FBI (Original Post) think Apr 2016 OP
Is she Teflon? Faux pas Apr 2016 #1
No links to said accomplishments? ffr Apr 2016 #12
best republican president EVAH! ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #19
Except that he was brave enough to raise taxes a lot. Adrahil Apr 2016 #37
keep kidding yourself. Huckster Billary ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #38
I like to call them Billary cause ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #39
Yeah, not like it's used by sexist right-wingers or anything. Adrahil Apr 2016 #40
the truth is never an attack. It is what it is. As I said, I have 153 million reasons to not believe ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #41
Yeah, because "Billary" is a "truth" Adrahil Apr 2016 #42
When Bill was running, didn't they brag that you get both? ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #43
well yeah before the internet took hold PatrynXX Apr 2016 #24
Imbecilic statement tabasco Apr 2016 #26
Must not be anything worth their time. liberal N proud Apr 2016 #2
Wrong department for criminal charges filing. LS_Editor Apr 2016 #25
Deferring to the FBI is the State Dept deferring the case for prosecution FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #33
They don't want to jeopardize the case against Hillary... Human101948 Apr 2016 #3
Interesting noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #4
I think the DOS finally saw the writing on the wall and want to get as far away as possible. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #11
Looks like the FBI told the DoS to cease interfering or face charges of obstruction. /nt SDjack Apr 2016 #34
I think the FBI's first involvement was purely to secure all the electronic media Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #36
Two competing investigations DebbieCDC Apr 2016 #5
I'm sure Kerry is more than happy to wash his hands of this shit show. frylock Apr 2016 #16
That's my feeling too, not like State is not busy. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #17
Bad News for Two Entities Bodych Apr 2016 #6
The #1 rule Hillary should have known (no excuses) Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #13
Here, let me help em out. highoverheadspace Apr 2016 #7
This could be awesome for Clinton..... blackspade Apr 2016 #8
Always the voice of reason, blackspade. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #14
May justice prevail felix_numinous Apr 2016 #9
Gotta watch out for the truth here or it may be censored. highoverheadspace Apr 2016 #10
+1000 FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #20
Would we trust anything coming out of the State Department? Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #15
For deeper background to all this, especially regarding FBI Director Comey and many others involved bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #18
You know........................... turbinetree Apr 2016 #21
There is a good side to this....just think now... Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #22
Looks like Department of State has had enough of this Republican witch hunt GreydeeThos Apr 2016 #23
Nope. TM99 Apr 2016 #27
In real life people who support Hillary are open to education. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #29
Some I've talked to believe they're defending the concept of working for a living. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #31
I believe people should do that too. Which is why I support the idea of a living wage. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #32
They like strawman arguments. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #35
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #28
The investigation will continue until she loses. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #30

ffr

(22,674 posts)
12. No links to said accomplishments?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:49 PM
Apr 2016
William Jefferson Clinton: Ranked in 2015 as the 8th best president in United States history. The guy that worked tirelessly as a public servant. Created 22 million jobs in 8 years as president. The guy that took the biggest deficit in U.S. history and turned it into the biggest surplus in history and set the country on course to pay off the entire public debt by 2010. The same guy that, due to all of his accomplishments, was the only sitting president that could utter the words that the state of the union has never been better.

The guy's a champion. There's a reason why Hillary has him stumping for her. She's smart. He draw crowds. There's a rock star vibe about the guy. If he could, I'm sure he'd spin gold from straw.
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
37. Except that he was brave enough to raise taxes a lot.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:53 AM
Apr 2016

Lots of folks here forgetting that he raised taxes by quite a bit, despite calls from the GOP that it would cause a depression. He also passed an Assault Weapons Ban. I don;t think it did any good, but it was a an effort, and those two things ushered in Gingrich and his "revolution." Why do so many casually forget those facts?

Was he the perfect progressive? No. But he was hardly a "Republican." The country did far better under him than any of the GOP, and he was building a base on which to expand. Sadly, he couldn't keep it in his pants, and the GOP managed to spin that into more than they should have been able too.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
38. keep kidding yourself. Huckster Billary
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

the architects of mandatory sentencing, three strikes, bringing superpredators to heel, ‘ending welfare as we know it,’

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
40. Yeah, not like it's used by sexist right-wingers or anything.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

Not saing you're a right winger, but it is an awful term.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
41. the truth is never an attack. It is what it is. As I said, I have 153 million reasons to not believe
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

either one. let's see the videos of what either one said, besides "cut it out!"

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
24. well yeah before the internet took hold
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:34 PM
Apr 2016

that probably would still be the case but now news travels fast. I'm not even sure he would have made it thru his impeachment.. But Bill is not Hillary. Hillary seems to be to the Right of Bill. and I'm really not in the mood for months and years of endless sex talk we have enough of that between Clinton and BUSH ...

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
26. Imbecilic statement
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

I support Sanders but recognize that the Clintons are not the great satan.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
33. Deferring to the FBI is the State Dept deferring the case for prosecution
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:25 PM
Apr 2016

Other wise an Obama Administration State Dept would have just come out claiming "No Wrong Doing" was found

But I love all the Hilbot denial

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. They don't want to jeopardize the case against Hillary...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

That's usually why one investigating agency defers to the other.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
4. Interesting
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016
"We do not want our internal review to complicate or impede [the FBI probe]," spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said. "We are prioritizing the law enforcement investigation."


A department spokesman said it is standard practice to allow a law enforcement agency to first complete its work before any parallel investigation is done. Trudeau called the move announced today a prudent "procedural matter."


In March the FBI responded to a formal inquiry from the State Department about how it should proceed with its internal review. It recommended that the State Department follow standard practice and put its investigation on hold.


The State Dept. began their investigation last year (anyone know the exact date?). The FBI began their investigation in the Summer of 2015. If it's standard practice to allow a law enforcement agency to first complete it's work why did the State Dept. wait until March to ask the FBI if they should defer to them? Or did the State Dept. ask them earlier than March? If they did why did the FBI wait until March to answer that question. Very interesting.
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
11. I think the DOS finally saw the writing on the wall and want to get as far away as possible.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

They don't want a hot potato (getting hotter every day) thrown in their lap at the last second.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
36. I think the FBI's first involvement was purely to secure all the electronic media
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:24 PM
Apr 2016

that had been holding or may have held the emails or traces of them, since it turned out there was classified material. It may have been months before they did anything else.

Not only did they have to go and get it from the lawyer, but I think they tried to trace all the boxes and backup media out there.

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
5. Two competing investigations
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

State = internal investigation, with its own dog in the hunt, wanting to keep its career people out of this morass that might cost them their jobs.

FBI = criminal probe, no dog in the hunt, no career jobs on the line.

State wants out of this mess. They are deferring to the FBI to take care of business.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. I'm sure Kerry is more than happy to wash his hands of this shit show.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

All this poor guy has done is clean up after Mrs. Clinton.

Bodych

(133 posts)
6. Bad News for Two Entities
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton, as SoS, was required to know what was top secret and what wasn't.

There are no exemptions or precedents, and the State Dept. knows it.

Plus, there is evidence of dereliction of duty by the State Dept itself. They have some 'splaining to do...big-time 'splaining.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
13. The #1 rule Hillary should have known (no excuses)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

is that even if it's not marked secret/top secret, etc., she has to know enough about the situation she's overseeing to err on the side of caution. That takes a little extra time to determine. You may need to ask another group of people. You need to do you due diligence. That's the importance of your position - YOU are the FUCKING BOSS, and the buck stops with you.

She's not going to get out of this one.

 

highoverheadspace

(307 posts)
7. Here, let me help em out.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

Wikileaks release of Hillarys emails reveals Google, al Jazeera aided overthrow of Syrian government



WikiLeaks reveals Hillary, Google, al Jazeera all conspiring against Syria.

http://truepublica.org.uk/global/google-able-effect-regime-change-appears/

Last week truepublica reported that four months ago, Google created a new holding company called Alphabet and that Eric Schmidt the new Executive Chairman of Alphabet, and therefore Google had decided to accept the offer of leading the Pentagon advisory board with a view to “bringing Silicon Valley innovation and best practices to the US military.” We questioned the ethics and moral judgement of both Schmidt and Google in joining forces with the biggest killing machine in modern times, certainly since the world wars.

We pointed to the meeting between Eric Schmidt and Julian Assange back in 2011, supposedly organised to discuss a book Schmidt was writing who was unexpectedly accompanied by a Jared Cohen. Cohen had moved to Google from the U.S. State Department in 2010. He had been a slick ideas guy at two U.S. administrations, known to be something of a courtier from the world of policy think tanks sympathetic to US foreign policy. He was a senior advisor for Secretaries of State Rice and Clinton.

Assange asserts that Schmidt was acting directly on behalf of Washington with a documented relationship that put him close to President Obama and Clinton and as Assange puts it: “Cohen’s directorate appeared to cross over from public relations and “corporate responsibility” work into active corporate intervention in foreign affairs at a level that is normally reserved for states. Jared Cohen could be wryly named Google’s “director of regime change.”


DU link to post on the emails and what they are related to. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016148397
 

highoverheadspace

(307 posts)
10. Gotta watch out for the truth here or it may be censored.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

Wikileaks Drops Hillary Email Bomb That Could End Her Campaign but FB Censored It [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Goblinmonger (a host of the Good Reads forum). If you believe this was done in error, please contact Goblinmonger to appeal.
The released emails uncovered that the presidential frontrunner was instrumental in spreading chaos and extremism in Libya. They also revealed that she pushed for oil privatization in Mexico and forwarded emails claiming a Sunni-Shiite war would be good for Israel and the West.

For those who are fascinated but don’t have the time or inclination to sift through more than 30,000 documents, here is a snapshot of what Clinton’s emails revealed:


@chriskkenny Not sure you've covered this. Recent Hilary email leak shows Obama rejected democratization in tion in Libya. https://t.co/GqVtzPacnD


Removal of Assad regime was aimed at maintaining strategic & nuclear domination of Israel, reveals Hilary's email. https://t.co/J80LVo0bDT


Upvoted: WikiLeaks: Hilary Clinton's India related emails! via /r/india https://t.co/Q6bHpoWH23


WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton Pushed Mexico's Oil Privatization http://fb.me/18rj18OQs


Put ‪#‎Hilary‬ to prison for calling for overthrow sovereign country,‪#‎Syria‬ leader https://t.co/HC84Jk6p6n


brought down a country that didn't need ur money or help, country that was debt free ur wicked Hilary! https://t.co/5RwsNFN0K0


ICYMI: Hilary Clinton's relationship to Google and State Dept -- Network connections undermine power of citizenry: https://t.co/dyao3AhlNh


#‎Elections2016‬ Hilary Clinton, Warmonger. Email: "help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad" https://t.co/WbNjEiz0uN


http://theantimedia.org/wikileaks-drops-hillary-email-bomb-that-could-end-her-campaign-but-fb-censored-it/
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Link to double locked down OP and thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016148397

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
18. For deeper background to all this, especially regarding FBI Director Comey and many others involved
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

I suggest reviewing some of Catherine Austin Fitts 2006 works as she was quite an insider and is honest.

Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part II
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

K&R

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
21. You know...........................
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

there are a lot of veterans on this thread, and there are a lot of people that have worked in the government on this thread, in some shape or form, by building planes, spaceships, rockets, you name it, but there was one thing, that was hammered into the collective heads, was it a need to know, and if you did know, you did not comprised the system put in place----------------there were reasons for this---------------the first one that comes to mind was and is "blackmail".

This is an issue that has never been discussed, Ashton Carter, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, just to name a few..................they could have been put in a position and could have been "blackmailed"...........................in my humble opinion, look at what happened from days gone bye.......................and we still do not have answers---------------do we the public have a right to know................................or a need to know..........................

Brad Friedman is a highly respected reporter, and he has found out a lot of information


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-friedman/fbi-whistleblower-hastert_b_277704.html

and if anyone remembers one "Sibel Emmonds" a very respected journailist

http://bradblog.com/?cat=59

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
23. Looks like Department of State has had enough of this Republican witch hunt
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

The inquiry is going no where. There will be no charges filed. Just one more failed Republican attempt to smear the Clintons.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
27. Nope.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

Nice spin though.

Deferring to the FBI is NOT having enough of a GOP witch hunt. Quite contrary, the 'witch hunt' was bogus, and this is VERY serious.

Educate yourself and you will see why.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. In real life people who support Hillary are open to education.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

It happened in my own family she has gone from 3 supporters to 0. People on DU that support Hillary are a different story altogether.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. I believe people should do that too. Which is why I support the idea of a living wage.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:26 PM
Apr 2016

What many of them on this site do though is have this idea that some people aren't entitled to having enough money to live on. In real life I have found the opposite is true, most people I talk to agree with my concept of a living wage.

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