Bernie Sanders says private meeting with Pope Francis is not an endorsement

[FreakinDJ]

Source: Washington Post

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.

The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according to the senator's spokesman Michael Briggs.

"They discussed the issues that the senator raised — that the pope has raised so often — at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.

"He said that there was radiance in his presence and that he was very honored and humbled to have the opportunity to meet with the pontiff."


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/16/italian-media-sanders-met-privately-with-pope-francis/

[Kip Humphrey]

1. But I read on DU that it was a chance encounter when they collided at the Papal Urinal.

[rpannier]

8. I thought they said

Sanders chased the Pope down as he was walking to the plane, tackled the man and held him there for five minutes

[passiveporcupine]

107. You left out

and sat on him,

[840high]

111. Wow - Bernie is so spry.

[arikara]

162. Really?

I heard he was hiding behind a potted plant and ambushed the pope.

[George II]

85. You KNOW that SNL will have something about this tonight.

[morningfog]

126. I doubt it.

[tabasco]

2. People will just have to decide for themselves

why Sanders was invited to the conference and H. Clinton was not.

[FreakinDJ]

3. ....

[Helen Borg]

33. Kiddo got hurt by the pointy thingy?

[FreakinDJ]

34. LOL ...

[nwnatural]

53. Hillary logo reminds me of this way ---> HOSPITAL

[FreakinDJ]

55. Hillary's Logo is pointing to the RIGHT

Freudian Slip of things to come maybe ...

[warrprayer]

62. you know

that crossed my mind as well...

[silverweb]

66. It has precedent.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Someone posted Hillary's campaign logo next to Barry Goldwater's campaign logo a while back. There's a very distinct similarity: His was a white arrow on a red field.

[BeanMusical]

125. This one?

[silverweb]

146. Yup.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]That one.

[FreakinDJ]

152. That is some scary similarity

Goldwater was one of the most famous bigots of modern times

[Duval]

115. I've noticed that. So funny!

[George II]

142. It points to the RIGHT only if you're in front of her. If you're a supporter standing BEHIND her...

....it points to the left.

If you're not behind her, you're pointing to the right.

[JDPriestly]

148. Would you say the same about the Goldwater logo on the pin posted in the post a few posts

above yours?

The Goldwater arrow points in the same direction as Hillary's. Goldwater was a sharp turn to the right at his time. Do you think the people behind him thought that he was veering left?

I don't think so. That is sheer . . . . . . . . . nonsense.

[George II]

157. That discussion might have been valid 52 years ago. Psst - this is the (not even so) new Millennium

[rpannier]

163. Interesting. Never noticed or thought about that

[George II]

164. Just noticed your signature - great. I noticed that years ago - those who "claim" to be...

....the most patriotic are also those who fly or display the confederate flag - symbolic of the biggest threat to the existence of the United States in our 240 year history.

[nwnatural]

121. CPR

[Mary Mac]

93. funny.

[pdsimdars]

7. It was right in that article

"The invitation to Sanders to address the Vatican conference raised eyebrows when it was announced last week and touched off allegations that the senator lobbied for the invitation.

But the chancellor for the pontifical academy, Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, said he invited Sanders because he was the only U.S. presidential candidate who showed deep interest in the teachings of Francis."

[abelenkpe]

23. You should post that

In response to every Hillary supporters posts. Somehow this escapes them.

[Scootaloo]

101. They're like fucking Gargamel, EVERYTHING escapes them

[laundry_queen]

133. Haha. Gargamel. +1 nt

[Newkularblue]

150. Snort

[FreakinDJ]

37. the only U.S. presidential candidate who showed deep interest in the teachings of Francis

that is pretty epic

[pdsimdars]

97. And it's right from their own guy, who organized the whole event.

[FreakinDJ]

98. Mean while - Pope is still waiting for Hillary to show up in the confessional

Syria, Honduras ...

[BeanMusical]

127. I wonder how much she charges for a confessional speech?

[LAS14]

136. See response #132 - The Pope has a different take on this. nt

[KittyWampus]

42. When people at the Academy are willing to insert politics into a Conference

it doesn't make them OR the candidate they think they are helping.

[Bubzer]

70. Looks like you have an incomplete comment there... care to shore it up?

[TM99]

130. She never backs up her lies

with any factual evidence. It is pure spin, deflection, artful smears, and rat-fuckery.

She believes it. She says it. Therefore it must be true.

[retrowire]

25. Exactly. No one said this was an endorsement but, Bernie was invited, Hillary wasn't. That's enough.

lol at anyone this genuinely upsets, please, grow the fuck up. There are more important things to be upset over.

Like white noise machines for example.

[Old Crow]

27. Simple: The Vatican couldn't afford Hillary's speaking fees.

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here through Wednesday night, folks.

[Bubzer]

71. Oh! Oh my goodness...oh.... my sides...

*pant pant pant* Don't DO that Old Crow.... I can only laugh so much!

[Thespian2]

129. Maybe Her Royal Highness should

have offered the vatican her university rate...or maybe she could have had the Pope purchase just one plate at her California fund-raiser...only $33,400...



I have to laugh at this childish blaming of Senator Sanders...

[George II]

83. She didn't want to invite herself.

[treestar]

4. A lot of DU thinks not only that but that

masses of Catholics and others are going to change their votes to Bernie just because of this!

[Kip Humphrey]

10. For Hillary, everything is a calculation to win. For Bernie, everything is a calculation to do

the right thing.

[vanlassie]

16. Boom. Nails it.

[hueymahl]

18. Great post

And the fucking truth.

[afertal]

40. I think they call it..

having principles!

[KittyWampus]

43. the entire trip to the Academy was a stunt that blew up in their faces so many times...

the lies told are all documented. Sanders has no shame.

[pangaia]

57. HA HA!

Poor old Hillary.

Nobody likes her.
well, according to Obama, she's 'likable enough.'

[frylock]

69. Enumerate the lies for those who haven't been paying attention.

Because from where I'm sitting, Hillary Supporter was wrong about every single aspect of this event.

Sanders WAS invited by the Vatican.
Sanders WAS able to fly there in time for the conference.
Sanders DID have a speaking slot.
Sanders DID meet with the Pope.

So, again, I ask you to please list the documented lies, and explain how this exploded in his face.

[elljay]

122. Oh you sexist, you!

How dare you point out the inconvenient truth?

[2naSalit]

128. Here's

how the Pope described this meeting...

Keeping it honest and all.

[Lordquinton]

118. Here's a comprehensive list of the lies:

[Hissyspit]

147. Please respond to the other poster:

"Sanders WAS invited by the Vatican.
Sanders WAS able to fly there in time for the conference.
Sanders DID have a speaking slot.
Sanders DID meet with the Pope."

Which lies?

[treestar]

47. Talk about drinking the cool aid

There can be no way to respond to a generalization that awesome and sweeping.

[Bubzer]

74. I agree...it was awesome...

and accurate.

[secondwind]

63. excellent and spot on!

[BlueMTexpat]

64. A "calculation" indeed -

I'll agree with you there.

But Bernie's calculations seem to forget how anti-women's rights and anti-LGBT rights the Catholic Church - including Pope Francis - has been, even without including the cover-ups of sexual abuse.

I'm not sure how suspending his campaign in NY and running off to meet the Pope - the physical embodiment of the Catholic Church - is doing the "right thing."

The Pope is actually quite busy with doing the right thing about focusing on the humanitarian crisis in Europe right now - which Bernie has not even mentioned that I know of. But I would actually be much more impressed with the Pope if he used some of the Catholic Church's wealth to help alleviate this crisis, i.e., really walking the walk. I will not believe that this Pope, more open as he has been so far, is much different from those before him until he actually DOES something to change the longest-lived Establishment in the world.

Both Bernie and the Pope say a lot of nice things and things we all aspire to see changed. But after Bernie has been inside the Beltway for 25 years, he has not lifted a finger to change things nor has he worked to build relationships within Congress that he needs, although he certainly has talked a lot over those same 25 years, mostly tarring BOTH parties with the same brush, a la Raph Nader.

The difference between Nader and Bernie. Nader actually did accomplish MANY good things insofar as consumer rights are concerned. Until he enabled the election of W in 2000, I actually considered him a good guy. I used to consider that Bernie was too and gave him the benefit of the doubt in this election, although I have always been an HRC supporter.

But Bernie's words and actions and those of his campaign and surrogates in the last two weeks especially have changed my opinion of him completely.

[Kip Humphrey]

65. If you wish to speak of Bernie while throwing this Pope under the bus, at least do your research.

Your post has so many errors that it earns a "F". Try again (but do your research first please!).

[BlueMTexpat]

68. Please point these errors out to me,

together with the facts to show where my errors are.

Until then, I will give your own response an "F."

[Plucketeer]

75. The BIGGEST ERROR

Is your clinging to your church 'n state hypocrisies! Look at what's happening in Europe and elsewhere! There's people in the streets EVERYWHERE and they're not bothering to check each other's faiths or affiliations! They just realize the "establishment", the status quo has got to go. Many are expressing themselves with eloquence and many are just saying "fuck this shit!" The Democratic party's thinking is "Over the Hill".

[Kalidurga]

135. "fuck this shit!"

is the height of eloquence. It's short to the point and emphatic.

[virgista]

72. Whoa...'he has not lifted a finger to change things' could not be further from the truth.

Bernie is one of the hardest working people in the Senate. His marathon 2010 filibuster for example:

"At 10:24 a.m. on Friday, Dec. 10, Sen. Sanders took to the floor of the U.S. Senate to lay out a clear argument against extending tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans, against codifying a low inheritance tax rate which would impact only the richest 0.3 percent of households, and against a payroll tax “holiday” which would undercut funding for the Social Security trust fund. Without a break, the senator remained standing and on the Senate floor for 8 hours, 35 mins., and 14 secs."

You seem exceptionally bitter and angry about things. And also wrong in this instance.

Yes, I don't have thousands of texts on DU yet. I'm not doing alot of LOLs and K&Rs to get my count up.

[BlueMTexpat]

76. One filibuster does not

change things. But it is a LOT more words, I'll give you that.

Actual productivity is the best measure. I know a lot of people who used to spend more time at the office than I did. They loved to impress upon everyone how long their hours were. I got a lot more accomplished in the regular workday and this was noted by my supervisors. So I was promoted very quickly.

[SunSeeker]

110. Sanders is great at granstanding, but not at getting thing done.

If he had made as much effort at getting things done in Congress as he did in getting his handshake with the Pope, he'd have more to show for his 25 years in Congress besides getting a few post offices named and a noncontraversial Veterans bill that John McCain pushed through.

[Duval]

116. LOL! So, you would have refused the request?

Really?

[BlueMTexpat]

151. His campaign was the one who

initiated the request for an invitation. The invitation was no spontaneous request from anyone. Strings had been pulled by Sachs & co.

[Lordquinton]

119. Where have you been?

For years people here on DU have been calling out the pope, but it's only now that Sanders has met him that suddenly we have high profile support here. So no, I don't buy any Hillary supporter's sudden condemnation of Papal bigotry. You're trying desperately to make this into a negative and just managing to insult everyone in the process.

BTW, Nader had a minimal impact on the 2000 election, and more Democrats voted for Bush than they did for him.

However David Brock is responsible for Clarence Thomas being on the USSC.

No Brock = No Thomas.

[BlueMTexpat]

155. LOL, I've been around and paying

attention - likely from before you were ever even a gleam.

I am also a cradle Catholic, now recovering, and have eight solid years of training at Catholic schools behind me. Those were actually good years where part of the graduation requirement was to have several solid courses not only in theology, but also in philosophy. So yes, I know quite a lot specifically about the CC and also quite a lot about religion, philosophy and ethics generally. I wish that more did.

The Pope is the living representative on earth of the Catholic Church. This Pope has been much more sympathetic to the common people, even to making symbolically tangible gestures like the one he made yesterday of sponsoring refugees. But that does not change the history and present anti-woman and anti LGBT positions of the Church itself despite him.

Bernie went to a conference that was discussing an encyclical that was not even written by this Pope but by John Paul II, who was very much in the traditional pope mode and during whose tenure much sexual abuse was covered up. This is not something that should be overlooked. In fact, the Papacy as an institution has much to answer for, even though Pope Francis is at least making tiny steps in the right direction.

If you really think that my speaking out about the facts is somehow throwing this Pope under the bus or a Hillary supporter's "sudden condemnation of Papal bigotry," you certainly never have paid attention to any of my posts before or to the facts.

Where have YOU been?

[BlueMTexpat]

156. And it's actually more like

no Biden = no Thomas. Brock did not control the confirmation voting; Biden did. Again, those pesky facts.

[840high]

112. +100

[SoLeftIAmRight]

120. BOOM

again

[CoffeeCat]

35. The only people making that allegation

are the cynical Clinton supporters who have grown so accustomed to her dishonest, calculated manipulations and gross dishonesty--that they erroneously believe that every candidate is a craven user like her. Bernie is not like Hillary. Most politicians don't commoditize people and groups like Clinton does.

Bernie accepted an invitation. He attended and participated. And he met the Pope. Every single mocking post and talking point from the Peanut Gallery has been debunked and revealed as bullshit. Bernie did this because he was invited and the Vatican afforded him an opportunity to speak about issues that he's been championing for decades.

Your suggestion about him trying to win the Catholic vote with this, is more bullshit on top of the humongous pile of bullshit that your side has spewed for more than a week.

You would think that you guys would just quit while you're about ten miles into that deep hole you've dug for yourselves.

If you can't be kind and decent, the very least you could do is move to your next talking point.

You're embarrassing yourself.

[treestar]

49. You're embarrassing yourself

look about the threads on Bernie and the Vatican and you can see many examples of how it is going to gain him votes and he'll even win NY.

[pangaia]

58. Well, that certainly would be a nice side effect.

[CoffeeCat]

61. No, you're piling more bullshit on top of your existing mound of bullshit

You guys have absolutely no credibility on this issue.

Every talking point that you made about Bernie and this trip--has been blown to smithereens.

No Bernie supporter ever, for one minute, thought that Bernie made this trip for political purposes or to win the Catholic vote.
We stand by him and the trip. It was an honor to be invited and to participate and to meet the Pope. Period.

You guys knew EVERYTHING didn't you? Such brilliant experts! You knew what the Pope was was thinking. What he had planned. You knew how the conference was structured and exactly how long Bernie would be talking (ten minutes before a coffee break! OMG!). You were just so sure that Bernie hadn't even been invited! You guys are the opposite of a think tank!

Now you have the audacity to start in with new talking points that are based on your brilliant predictions about how Catholics will vote in upcoming elections?

Please...go on!

[elljay]

123. Are Catholics so shallow

that they will change their votes, not based on their views of candidates' policies, but simply because a candidate met with the Pope for 5 minutes? Is that REALLY what you're suggesting? How insulting!

[Duval]

117. Accurate post!

[pangaia]

56. See, even Obama is laughing at her now.

He never could stand her..

[Scootaloo]

102. Just 'cause that's what you guys are screaming at each other in your echo chamber don't make it so

Maybe you ought to stick with telling gay people they "have enough rights already"? That seems more your speed.

[passiveporcupine]

108. I don't expect any Catholics to change their vote over this

But I do hope it gets some of them to start looking at what Bernie's message is. Whether he becomes President or not, he has the right message and we all need to be paying attention to it.

[angrychair]

113. Hey it you

I remember you treestar, I remember you
Your one of the people that recommended an OP using neo-Nazi , anti Semitic, holocaust denial hate sites and their crazy conspiracy theories about Sanders:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251941346

[BeanMusical]

141. You're absolutely hilarious.

Did you buy a white hood yet?

[azurnoir]

5. Nor should it be lest we have a return to the campaign of 1960

but this time it would be Dem vs Dem

[FreakinDJ]

6. As if JFK was a "Bad Thing"

I believe his administration was referred to as "Camelot"

[SusanCalvin]

11. But please don't forget what he said about religion.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/ALL6YEBJMEKYGMCntnSCvg.aspx

[FreakinDJ]

13. Here is the important part

While the so-called religious issue is necessarily and properly the chief topic here tonight, I want to emphasize from the outset that we have far more critical issues to face in the 1960 election; the spread of Communist influence, until it now festers 90 miles off the coast of Florida--the humiliating treatment of our President and Vice President by those who no longer respect our power--the hungry children I saw in West Virginia, the old people who cannot pay their doctor bills, the families forced to give up their farms--an America with too many slums, with too few schools, and too late to the moon and outer space.

These are the real issues which should decide this campaign. And they are not religious issues--for war and hunger and ignorance and despair know no religious barriers.

You got to admit Bernie sounds a lot like JFK did back in 1960

[SusanCalvin]

17. Of course he does.

And he'd be the runaway winner but for the initial M$M blackout.

[azurnoir]

12. That's not the point - at the time the GOP/Nixon made much of JFK being Catholic

and there fore the Vatican would control the US - just campaign smears that obviously did not work but still I could see a variant of that happening here too

[FreakinDJ]

14. JFK was fighting for the same things Bernie is now

check reply #13

[azurnoir]

31. yes he was I did not say he wasn't however my point stands

and IRL I'm hearing this is the Vatican interfering in US politics from the other Democratic candidates side

[jwirr]

51. I can see the rw thinking that but even Hillary's people must

be able to see that this is the Pope doing something for the world problems. Before becoming the Pope he was a scientist - his concerns reflect two things - his understanding of science and his understanding of his faith. This conference is the outcome of that and NO attempt to control politics.

Also Bernie was invited because he and the people at this conference believe the same things. There was not a single corporatist invited. That is why Hillary was not invited. Her issues go in the opposite direction as this group. She cannot have it both ways.

[NJCher]

81. good explanation

I'd forgotten how the pope was once a scientist. I think that's quite relevant.

I hope everyone can understand your post. It gets right to the heart of the matter.



Cher

[jwirr]

86. Thank you.

[SusanCalvin]

15. Huh? My only point was to post the link.

Yes, I know the history, as I assumed others did.

[abelenkpe]

24. +10000

[Ligyron]

9. Just another example of a classy candidate that Bernie. n/t

[noretreatnosurrender]

19. Actually Not Surprised

I had a feeling he probably met with the Pope in private. I don't know why people would be surprised considering Sanders views on wealth and inequality dovetail with the Pope's views about poverty and the worship of money. No doubt the Pope recognized a kindred spirit in Sanders on those issues and wanted to talk. I'm not a Catholic but I too have agreed with the Pope on these issues. You would have to be living under a rock to not have noticed that the Pope and Sanders are in agreement on these issues. Those that want to trash Sanders for this are very short-sighted in their criticism. Quite frankly it reveals a lot about them when they do.

[FreakinDJ]

20. It was Hillary's Smear Machine that tried to deminish Bernie's meeting with the Pope

and now they are trying to smear the Pope

[CoffeeCat]

39. Haters gonna hate (nt)

[LAS14]

137. Your feeling is mistaken. See the Pope's take on this in response #132

[mulsh]

21. I'm sure glad that Bernie &Co. is above touting his brief access to the Pope for political purposes.

Kudos to his campaign staff and supporters out there too for avoiding promoting this sincere moment of unity with the mother church that was only for the sake of economic justice and not some pathetic attempt to garner the illusive "Catholic vote".

I'm also very impressed with the restraint all of the above have shown in making sure this story is flogged to death for at least two new cycles.

[FreakinDJ]

22. While Protesters are outside Hillary's $335K per plate Fundraiser in San Francisco

The contrast is disgusting

'They sell you a dream': tech workers protest Clooney event for Clinton


Source: Guardian

Democrats marched against Democrats in San Francisco and revealed a widening rift between commuting tech workers and their venture capital bosses

After working in Silicon Valley for years, Morgan Quirk felt good protesting outside the home of a venture capitalist who funded tech startups and fundraisers for Hillary Clinton. He was part of a new splinter group of the liberal party: Democrats marching against Democrats in San Francisco, commuting tech workers against their bosses.

“They sell you a dream at startups – the ping-pong, the perks – so they can pull 80 hours out of you,” said Quirk, a 26-year-old software engineer. “But in reality the venture capitalists control all the capital, all the labor, and all the decisions, so yeah, it feels great protesting one.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/hillary-clinton-protest-george-clooney-fundraiser-bernie-sanders

[AgingAmerican]

26. Bernie met with the Pope? Hillary supporters worst nightmare come true!

[Fast Walker 52]

46. But but they said he wouldn't - there's got to be a problem with that story that says they met!

[AgingAmerican]

79. Oh noooes!!

Woe betide them!!

[notadmblnd]

28. Hehehe. The green eyed monster is gonna be out in force here today

The shit we heard from HRC supporters. "Sanders invited himself to the Vatican." Sanders isn't on the speaking list." Sanders isn't going to meet with the pope."

If this was a game of baseball, I'd say HRC and her supporters just lost this inning of the game.

[FreakinDJ]

29. Hillary will disrespect the Pope by innuendo

She can't help it

[notadmblnd]

36. Of course she will

She's a narcissist and believes that she is superior to everyone, including the head of the RCC.

[FreakinDJ]

38. Her surrogates have already started in

[notadmblnd]

41. It was a choice, not a requirement.

No one forced them to support the most corrupt political candidate in the 2016 race and it's still not too late to reject the dark and go into the light.

I feel certain that the Vatican could even provide a couple of Exorcists to chase the demon out of their souls.

[Fast Walker 52]

48. yep!

[sus453]

30. Oh, I thought Bernie made that up!

That was quite the talking point for Hillary supporters before today.

[Dont call me Shirley]

32. KnR!

[noretreatnosurrender]

44. WaPo

has now added it's typical anti-Bernie spin to this piece and removed some information that appeared in the earlier piece. I'm glad I got to read it before the editors got their hands on it to spin it.

Found the original version here. They evidently picked up the story before the WaPo changed it.

http://trueviralnews.com/bernie-sanders-meets-privately-with-pope-francis/

[FreakinDJ]

45. The Hillary Campaign has been Blowing Up WaPo's phone

Every thing they do is right out if KKKarl Rove's Play Book

[noretreatnosurrender]

52. Wouldn't Be Surprised

judging by the craziness here.

Fortunately I found the original piece because it was picked up by another publication before the changes were made.

http://trueviralnews.com/bernie-sanders-meets-privately-with-pope-francis/

[FreakinDJ]

54. That is how Bush and KKKarl Rove controlled the message during Iraq War build up

Birds of a Feather and all ..

[liberal N proud]

50. His supporters are taking care of that

[pangaia]

59. "Are you going to be meeting with the Pope?" "Yup."

[Politicub]

60. Touched by his noodly appendage

Blessed be.

[Bubzer]

77. Oooooooh! A fellow Pastafarian?!?!?

[BlueMTexpat]

67. When Bernie quits using the Pope's

picture in his campaign literature, I may begin to believe that he means what he said.

Until that, I will consider this whole episode shameful pandering from beginning to end and contrary to acceptable diplomatic protocol. It has reinforced my initial belief that Bernie literally has no concept of how to behave on the global level.

It's the same thing that we see in this primary campaign when Bernie and his supporters - some of whom actually HATE the Dem party - rail against the rules of the Democratic party which have been in place for many elections cycles now. There seems to be a perception that Bernie does not have to abide by the rules and protocol that the rest of us observe.

[FreakinDJ]

73. When Hillary releases the Paid Wall St Speech Transcripts I may begin to beleive her

[Bubzer]

78. I doubt heavily Bernie has used the Pope's image in campaign literature.

I think you're bullshitting.

[MBS]

92. +100 n/t

[revbones]

80. "Accidental Meeting" sure.

[LAS14]

134. See what the Pope has to say in reply #132 nt

[George II]

82. It wasn't a "private meeting" - it was in the lobby of their hotel at 4AM

[SunSeeker]

84. So Sanders was staked out at 4 AM to corner the Pope as he left his residence?

[FreakinDJ]

87. More of Clinton's KKKarl Rovian talking points

Realize - using RATpubliCON Smear tactics won't get her votes come the GE

[George II]

88. You're claiming the Pope was using "Rovian talking points"? Here's what the Pope said:

"When I was leaving (Casa Santa Marta) Senator Sanders was there, he came to the meeting on Centesimus Annus, and he knew that I was leaving at that time, and he had the courtesy to greet me," Pope Francis said. "I greeted him and his wife and another couple that was with him."

"So when I went down, I said hello, a shake of the hand and nothing more," he continued. "This is politeness. This is called good manners"

[FreakinDJ]

90. The Papal Residence is NOT a Hotel Lobby

There was no photograph of the brief meeting at the papal residence complex

Honestly - how does Hillary supporters expect anyone to vote for a candidate that stoops so low

[MBS]

94. it was the Santa Marta guest house

where all the conference attendees stayed, and also where Pope Francis stays (he eschewed the ultra-fancy papal apartments and has chosen this guest house as his residence instead).

[George II]

95. No, he doesn't live IN the lobby, but where he lives is referred to as a hotel and...

...that's where Sanders encountered him at 4AM.

Francis said he greeted Sanders on Saturday morning as he was leaving the Santa Marta, the hotel within Vatican grounds where the pope lives.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/

[FreakinDJ]

96. .....

[George II]

100. That's the best you got? Hillary Clinton has already met personally with a Pope (John Paul II)...

...on a truly official visit.

[LiberalLovinLug]

105. Just stop

[LAS14]

143. See reply #132. And Pope Francis does not live in "the Papal Residence."

He lives in a suite in the same building used by attendees at the conference. As he says in the video, Sanders knew he would show up at 6 a.m. and was waiting for him.

[Squinch]

153. "Ethel, you block that door, and Fred, you block that door. That way he has to

come this way and I can shake his hand!"

"OK, Lucy!"

"Don't tell Ricky!"

[George II]

158. That's great, thanks for the morning laugh!

[Squinch]

159. But seriously, doesn't it sound like that's just how it went down?

[George II]

160. Yes. Last night I was thinking of the scene in Annie Hall where Alvy Singer was waiting outside...

...the movie theater and the two guys started bothering him, asking for an autograph.

[shanti]

89. and you can bet

that if it had been hillary invited to the vatican, she would NEVER have said what bernie said. he didn't have to say it wasn't an endorsement, but it's just another example of his total honesty.

[FreakinDJ]

91. Pope is still waiting for Hillary to show up in the confessional

Syria, Honduras ....

[BlueMTexpat]

99. Hillary would never have wangled an invitation

from the Pope, especially during a primary election campaign.

She knows and understands diplomatic protocol as well as the very awkward position this whole episode put the Pope in.

Bernie's actions in this situation demonstrate more than anything else that he neither knows diplomatic protocol nor cares about it. That is NOT a great quality for any President of a powerful country whose smallest actions can impact the globe. If anything, it's a huge red flag.

[FreakinDJ]

104. Given Hillary's pandering to the Wealthy Elite she would NEVER be invited

to a conference on Economic Morality

[Mary Mac]

103. popecapade versus Bill's wall street joke? its a draw

maybe a little Gregorian chant?|

[SoapBox]

106. K & R!

And the Bots, Elites, Established, Bankster lovers, etc. can lie all they want...

Bernie was at the conference...and he had a short meet with the Pope.

Period.

Move onto anothe lie Bots.

[LiberalLovinLug]

109. Just because he met with the Pope does not mean it was an endorsement!!!!!!

If that's what Bernie is claiming..........



Oh.....



NEVERMIND...

[Duval]

114. Of course not!

But "some" need more clarification, so thanks for posting, FreakinDJ!

[NurseJackie]

124. He did not have a private audience with the pope ...

... that's misleading.

[LAS14]

139. I'd say it's a lie... not just misleading. Have you seen...

... the Pope's take on this in the video? Response #132.

[JimDandy]

149. You're right

Jane, Sachs, Sach's wife and Sorondo were there also, so it wasn't exactly "private".

According to the economist Jeffrey Sachs, who has also been attending the conference which ends today, the courtesy visit was prearranged. “Last night the meeting was scheduled for 6am this morning,” Sachs said in comments to CNA. “They had the chance to talk for several minutes.” No photographs were taken of the encounter.
http://m.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/#ixzz463soed1s

[hollowdweller]

131. Pope Francis knew what he was doing.

Francis may SAY he was being non political but his actions speak otherwise.

[LAS14]

140. Here's the story in context, from Pope Francis. See resply #132

[LAS14]

132. What to believe. A video of the Pope, or a sloppy Washington Post story?

Pope Francis didn't attend "a private meeting."

[BeanMusical]

144. Kick and R

[flying rabbit]

145. Does this really matter?

Either way, whether Bernie exchanged bro hugs, or just bumped into the Pope.

[FreakinDJ]

154. What really mattered Bernie represented the United States very well in front of the World

[Sunlei]

161. Sanders is so lucky, I want to meet this Pope in person!

[savalez]

165. Pope Francis said it is not an endorsement too. n/t