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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:39 PM Apr 2016

Together, We Did It Again:’ Hillary Clinton Wins New York Democratic Primary

Last edited Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:10 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: CBS News

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Hillary Clinton handily won the New York Democratic presidential primary Tuesday night.

With 55 percent of the precincts reporting, Clinton had 59 percent to 41 percent for rival Bernie Sanders.

CBS News polling showed Clinton won 57 percent with women voters to 43 percent for Sanders, 70 percent with older voters compared with 30 percent for Sanders, and 71 of black voters compared with 27 percent for Sanders.

Eighty-nine percent of exit poll respondents said Clinton had the right experience, compared with only 11 percent for Sanders.

Read more: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/04/19/hillary-clinton-n-y-democratic-primary/



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Together, We Did It Again:’ Hillary Clinton Wins New York Democratic Primary (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2016 OP
Yes cloud75 Apr 2016 #1
Woo, HOO! ImaPolitico Apr 2016 #44
Um, no. liberalnarb Apr 2016 #213
I'm curious - just where is your LiberalElite Apr 2016 #216
This is NOT Winner take all Or winner take most like RepubliCONS fasttense Apr 2016 #120
Funny how quickly they forget that, innit? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #157
Super Funny! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #165
+1 turbinetree Apr 2016 #181
It's amazing how much you've managed to read into one repeated word muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #188
Did you mispost? fasttense Apr 2016 #191
You replied to someone who just said "yes. Yes!" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #192
Oh my, your vitriol and in depth detail of posting events fasttense Apr 2016 #196
'Vitriol'? 'Hate'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #197
Really all that hate just because I pointed out that Dem primaies are not winner take all fasttense Apr 2016 #198
You've called me a 'hater', accused me of 'vitriol', and 'not being what I claim' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #199
Stop digging leftynyc Apr 2016 #210
This is great, it is more than a win, the delegates are so important. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2
Here comes the 'She cheated!!11!' from the haters. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #3
Heh, they started the meme even before the primary. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #19
120,000 Dems missing from the registrations? concreteblue Apr 2016 #24
So Hillary did it? Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #53
Please quote me concreteblue Apr 2016 #59
Insinuation. Pretty lame you did that and then demanded a quote. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #67
Not insinuation at all. Facts concreteblue Apr 2016 #78
I am fine with an investigation. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #81
So, you agree that there is enough evidence concreteblue Apr 2016 #88
No. Yes. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #99
I did not call you a republican concreteblue Apr 2016 #110
Passive aggressive BS. Say what you mean. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #111
I dis concreteblue Apr 2016 #122
Good luck maq-az Apr 2016 #170
Hee, hee. ImaPolitico Apr 2016 #49
She Cheated!!! tom_kelly Apr 2016 #75
Of course, the question on WHY she would go to all of that trouble 6000eliot Apr 2016 #129
as in 3% redruddyred Apr 2016 #141
Cite your outlier poll all you want, 6000eliot Apr 2016 #162
melatonin infrequently helps me sleep at night redruddyred Apr 2016 #164
Cheney too? Webster Green Apr 2016 #155
She was called a neocon just yesterday right here on DU. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #190
Who hoo. iandhr Apr 2016 #4
57-43 RogerM Apr 2016 #5
60.5-39.4 according to CNN projections (nt) question everything Apr 2016 #16
60.5 to 39.5 now with 38% of the vote in as per Talking Points Memo beastie boy Apr 2016 #18
That was beautiful and breathtakingly(?) quick! Kind of Blue Apr 2016 #6
"THANK YOU, NEW YORK!!!" Number23 Apr 2016 #17
Seriously! The relief feels wonderful. Kind of Blue Apr 2016 #43
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #146
There-There Kind of Blue Apr 2016 #150
What an unnecessary and moronic comment Number23 Apr 2016 #183
What an unnecessary and moronic comment redruddyred Apr 2016 #203
I know you are but what am I? johnp3907 Apr 2016 #211
Don't be sad--You just made this up and It is Fake.. riversedge Apr 2016 #202
She's going to the White House JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #38
I believe you and feel that she's already there! Kind of Blue Apr 2016 #64
The best thing about tonight is that we can say Madam President come Nov. riversedge Apr 2016 #92
Kicked and recommended! Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #7
Here comes Hillary Goldwater. LS_Editor Apr 2016 #8
wow.... dhill926 Apr 2016 #11
calm down and call bernie, maybe he can get you an F 35 from his MIC buddies at lockheed :-) msongs Apr 2016 #22
There's such a thing as celebrating victory with some dignity and grace. mac56 Apr 2016 #29
Comeuppance. Cary Apr 2016 #82
Did you read the post to which s/he was responding? spooky3 Apr 2016 #109
Give us a break! What goes around comes around demosincebirth Apr 2016 #156
Don't worry. She'll be using those and ground troops in her first term. LS_Editor Apr 2016 #32
EXACTLY! She has never met an overseas adventure she didn't like! n/t actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #178
More Wars and More Pain Around the World McKim Apr 2016 #185
I beg to differ... ImaPolitico Apr 2016 #206
How do you beg to differ? LS_Editor Apr 2016 #207
I would trust, ImaPolitico Apr 2016 #208
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #39
LOL! nt SylviaD Apr 2016 #100
When did THAT happen? beastie boy Apr 2016 #23
+1 iandhr Apr 2016 #40
The Democratic Party is as far apart from Progressives Maedhros Apr 2016 #68
Then why is Bernie running as a Democrat? beastie boy Apr 2016 #84
To rescue the party mac56 Apr 2016 #94
Why didn't he run as a Republican to rescue the party? beastie boy Apr 2016 #106
His priorities are fine. mac56 Apr 2016 #115
In this case, you are doing a crappy job trying to articulate his priorities beastie boy Apr 2016 #117
Thanks ever so mac56 Apr 2016 #119
It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it... beastie boy Apr 2016 #137
You'd prefer he ran independent, perhaps? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #168
Anything but Democrat. beastie boy Apr 2016 #169
You seem to make great effort to demonstrate the other poster's point for him. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #174
This message is brought to you by the word "sarcasm" beastie boy Apr 2016 #177
Anything but Democrat. beastie boy Apr 2016 #172
Want some cheese with that whine? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #193
61.5% to 39.5% with 41% in RogerM Apr 2016 #9
Who had 9:30pm in the "when will they call it" pool? HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #10
So much for me voting for him in New Jersey. Nedsdag Apr 2016 #12
You can still vote for him in NJ. Beacool Apr 2016 #33
Hillary won N.J. in 2008. She'll win it again in 2016. Nedsdag Apr 2016 #116
This is why Trump was placed as opposition. TowneshipRebellion Apr 2016 #123
Woo-hoo! And most of the pollsters can give themselves a pat on the back. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #13
American corrupt status quo won tonight. ErikJ Apr 2016 #14
...And the whining begins! beastie boy Apr 2016 #20
Rightfully so. Big money in politics wins. ErikJ Apr 2016 #26
By more than 20 points, no less! beastie boy Apr 2016 #51
WHy do u hate democracy and America? ErikJ Apr 2016 #61
Ask someone to buy you a dictionary. Then look up "democracy". beastie boy Apr 2016 #72
Thanks to the big money corporate media ErikJ Apr 2016 #77
The media Bernie out spent Hillary 2:1 on? metroins Apr 2016 #83
No, the media that spent most time reporting on Hillary ErikJ Apr 2016 #91
So he took from the poor metroins Apr 2016 #101
Ouch! beastie boy Apr 2016 #108
ANd who is the one who promises to END this corrupt media campaign system? ErikJ Apr 2016 #112
That would be Bernie, allright. All he does is promise. beastie boy Apr 2016 #124
Bernie's coattails are longer than Hill's. ErikJ Apr 2016 #140
Evidence of that? dbackjon Apr 2016 #214
is voter suppression redruddyred Apr 2016 #143
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people" - T. Jefferson beastie boy Apr 2016 #145
i think i'm missing your point redruddyred Apr 2016 #147
I am saying no one is under obligation to explain. beastie boy Apr 2016 #160
if the ballot application says one thing and means another redruddyred Apr 2016 #161
This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Apr 2016 #153
She damn sure did. Seemed like within 30 minutes of the polls closing she was already being declared Number23 Apr 2016 #15
Yes!!!!!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #21
Happy Birthday Beacool! SunSeeker Apr 2016 #56
Thank you!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #60
Happy Birthday !!! Tess49 Apr 2016 #57
Thank you!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #63
Wheeeeeeee!!! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #25
Madam President mainstreetonce Apr 2016 #27
Someone by the name of 'litlbilly', a few weeks ago pretty much told me... Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #28
If she wins, Republican Obstructionism against her will be thrice as bad as it was against Obama. retrowire Apr 2016 #30
For sure. Their hatred for Obama is only exceeded by Hill ErikJ Apr 2016 #36
Then get cracking on the downballot. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #158
Not surprising. It's an tossup in Glendale, Queens, a working class enclave. NYCButterfinger Apr 2016 #31
CNN just said she had more than 60% in Queens overall and the same or higher pnwmom Apr 2016 #47
ONE SMALL STEP FOR WOMAN, ONE GIANT LEAP FOR WOMENKIND. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #34
Argentina elected the worlds first woman president. retrowire Apr 2016 #42
Nothing but bitterness. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #45
Sorry about the educated voter in me. It comes out sometimes. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #46
Was basic math part of your education ? Trust Buster Apr 2016 #58
Yes! retrowire Apr 2016 #62
Math also includes Congress. Those skills would have been mighty handy to you. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #65
No, math class doesn't cover congress. That's civics class silly. ;) nt retrowire Apr 2016 #66
Sanders could not have delivered his promises through Congress. The numbers aren't there. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #69
And here's the question that always ends these conversations.... Ahem... retrowire Apr 2016 #71
She's not proposing major changes like Sanders. She will be able to horse trade with Republicans. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #79
Did we elect that new Supreme Court Justice yet? retrowire Apr 2016 #80
You think Republicans would have loved Sanders any more ? Trust Buster Apr 2016 #85
Bernie has a better record of working across the aisle... retrowire Apr 2016 #95
No he doesn't. Republicans hate socialists. He would have just brought about more division. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #103
giving republicans a bit too much credit there retrowire Apr 2016 #105
Yes, and Republicans know he owns it. He would have been a disaster in a divided America. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #107
i dont think so. but we can have differing opinions on that one. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #113
Horse trade with the Republicans? What's she going to give away to them this time? NickB79 Apr 2016 #200
If you're thinking of Isabel Peron, she succeeded to their presidency because she was vice-president muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #189
... riversedge Apr 2016 #98
After tonight I can say Madam President with more confidence riversedge Apr 2016 #128
congrats hillary! runaway hero Apr 2016 #35
And a resounding win! Go Hillary Go!! nolabear Apr 2016 #37
that western caucuses run was nervewracking. Mary Mac Apr 2016 #41
YES! We DID IT!!! SunSeeker Apr 2016 #48
Love how everyone... Khellendross Apr 2016 #50
I agree.... aka-chmeee Apr 2016 #90
id like to restrict primaries to those who vote in midterms. Mary Mac Apr 2016 #217
Current count at 10 PM is still only 51% of the total votes cast have been reported out. Ford_Prefect Apr 2016 #52
Congrats to Sec. Clinton and her supporters. WIProgressive88 Apr 2016 #54
Thank you New York! Loki Apr 2016 #55
No link in your post...? MADem Apr 2016 #70
I'm disapointed in the results. I'm a Bernie supporter but I'd vote for Clinton over any GOPer Stryst Apr 2016 #73
Hope the righties haven't used up all their hate. tiredtoo Apr 2016 #74
She's a disgusting fraud Reter Apr 2016 #76
And... moosewhisperer Apr 2016 #89
No! So you didn't get to vote? Duval Apr 2016 #93
I did, after 40 minutes of arguing Reter Apr 2016 #102
She turned you away at the polls. She sent you to another school. She struck your name from the beastie boy Apr 2016 #104
Do you blame her for all of the problems in your life? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #194
Kick & so highly recommended! William769 Apr 2016 #86
Maybe Hillary can get finally get 1000 people to attend one of her rallies now. jalan48 Apr 2016 #87
Because rallies are what gets the presidency. 6000eliot Apr 2016 #138
maybe but it is a different base. Mary Mac Apr 2016 #218
KICK!! George II Apr 2016 #96
Congrats Hillary ..... LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #97
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #114
Reap what you sow... nt Earth_First Apr 2016 #118
It's time for Hillary to start shopping for new curtains for the Oval Office. c588415 Apr 2016 #121
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #125
You must be feeling the Bern, oops, I meant Burnt. LOL ! c588415 Apr 2016 #131
Trump Troll Skittles Apr 2016 #135
Clinton is my candidate! I do not support Trump or his orangutang hair piece c588415 Apr 2016 #139
I was referring to, er, "Name Removed" Skittles Apr 2016 #144
Wow. Hillary 57 to 43 with 87% of the vote! SunSeeker Apr 2016 #126
How does she win when Bernie pretty much wins 90% of all counties MonteSS Apr 2016 #127
It is the number of voters and or the population that matters. Looking at all that blue riversedge Apr 2016 #130
Where the Democrats are? 6000eliot Apr 2016 #132
Same way Democrats win general elections over Republicans under a swath of red. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2016 #133
votes come from people, not land Skittles Apr 2016 #136
OK that all makes sense now, Brain fart moment MonteSS Apr 2016 #142
Acreage doesn't count for votes Scootaloo Apr 2016 #176
Funny thing happening to Bernie's campaign right now. beastie boy Apr 2016 #134
If you say so, I suppose maybe. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #148
I would be impressed if NY allowed the people to vote in primaries. But this is no victory. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #149
I don't say so, Bernie's campaign does. beastie boy Apr 2016 #152
How exactly did Wibly Apr 2016 #151
"We did it" by winning NY. Getting more votes than Bernie is what was involved, beastie boy Apr 2016 #159
Thank you New York!!! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #154
As you all so happily point out... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #163
If SIXTEEN percentage points is now just a victory of a "few" points Number23 Apr 2016 #184
Sorry - I was just... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #186
She will pick up probably 40 more delegates from this than Sanders Number23 Apr 2016 #187
Virtual tie! nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #195
Well, good for her. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #166
Yes oh yes we did!!! eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #167
Go, Hillary. murielm99 Apr 2016 #171
Big shout out to all NY Hillary supporters and voters, who worked so hard to make this happen! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #173
We have "experience" with the Clintons. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #175
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #179
A year ago I would have had no problem getting behind Hillary... Chakaconcarne Apr 2016 #180
There's just something girly about her, isn't there? 6000eliot Apr 2016 #182
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #201
A positive message from a positive well loved person ffr Apr 2016 #204
You go girl! llmart Apr 2016 #205
Super night for the Clinton campaign and a great picture in the OP ... LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #209
We sure did, m'am! forest444 Apr 2016 #212
Looks like Hillary will be the Democratic nominee rury Apr 2016 #215
Hillary is corrupt Rass Apr 2016 #222
This celebration in mid APRIL no less. Thank you Sen. Sanders for opening ALBliberal Apr 2016 #219
:-) Very happy here! Politicub Apr 2016 #220
Many of the Bernie supporters in this thread need more fiber in their diets. sister_rosa_refried Apr 2016 #221
Election fraud Rass Apr 2016 #223
I think you screen name is ALMOST fitting sister_rosa_refried Apr 2016 #224

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
44. Woo, HOO!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is my gal and has always been. She will become the first women president!
Haters will love this: Fact Checkers have named Hillary the most honest candidate of both parties!
Woo, hoo. I believe it. Have been watching since the 90s how the haters have smeared Hillary from day one.
Keep on spreading those faux scandals, haters. It won't do you any good.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
213. Um, no.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016
The most successful truth-teller is Bernie Sanders (54 percent “true” or “mostly true” and 28 percent “mostly false” or worse”). Hillary Clinton, affectionately known as Hil-LIAR-y by conservatives, missed the mark on the truth in 28 percent of her statements. But she got it right 51 percent of the time.


http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Polifact-evaluates-the-2016-White-House-6704779.php
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
120. This is NOT Winner take all Or winner take most like RepubliCONS
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary merely got more delegates. She did NOT win ALL the delegates. The corporate media likes to pretend there is a winner but in reality the other candidate can get very close to the same number of delegates.

So, No Hillary did NOT win nor did Bernie.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
181. +1
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

Its called an election process.......................seems everyone forgets this little item............................including this corporate corrupt media..................................I turned to the MSNBC gab fest after watching my BlackHawks, and it was absolutely amazing to hear them talk with all of there talking heads and the hired paid guns, and Rick Tyler had to tell them all, this is about delegates and the count for these delegates, it was not a coronation--------------------and they were already licking there chops on the next headline creation---------------amazing



Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016



muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
188. It's amazing how much you've managed to read into one repeated word
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:15 AM
Apr 2016

and a few punctuation symbols. It even required you to use capitals to spell out words, so strong was the message you found you had to counter.

Did it occur to you that the DUer was just expressing satisfaction?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
192. You replied to someone who just said "yes. Yes!"
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

If it was the CBS article you were referring to, then you should have replied to that. But that wasn't added until 11:24pm, Eastern time, and you replied at 10:51pm. So don't try to blame it on an article added later to the OP.

Who are you calling a 'hater'?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
196. Oh my, your vitriol and in depth detail of posting events
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

Makes me think you are Not who you claim to be.

Keep the hate. It seems to be your strongest emotion.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
197. 'Vitriol'? 'Hate'?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

What are you talking about? You objected to someone saying 'yes!' when Hillary won the New York primary, and you suddenly accuse me of 'vitriol' and 'hate', and accuse me of not being who I claim to be.

What do you even think I am claiming to be? Let's get your accusations straight. My "in depth detail of posting events" consist of looking at this thread. Other people in the thread had already said "why isn't there a link in the OP", before it was added. All you have to do to get 'in depth detail' is look at the OP, and when it says it was edited. Then click on 'thread info', and you can see the original version, and what was added in the edit.

Maybe you've never been very interested in DU, and you don't understand about edits?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
198. Really all that hate just because I pointed out that Dem primaies are not winner take all
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:35 AM
Apr 2016

Relax, take a breath. You seem to be over reacting to a minor point.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
199. You've called me a 'hater', accused me of 'vitriol', and 'not being what I claim'
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

The hate is coming entirely from you. You are the one over-reacting. You've also tried to mislead people about what you were replying to.

You could have just said "oops, I didn't mean to reply to cloud75", which would have been believable. All I said was you read too much into a word.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
210. Stop digging
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

You're embarrassing yourself. You responded with bullshit to a post with only the word yes in it. It makes you look like a pathetic sore loser - if that was your aim, you succeeded brilliantly.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
24. 120,000 Dems missing from the registrations?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:54 PM
Apr 2016

A bunch of registrations changed from Dem to R or "independent"? A now open investigation? The Elections supervisor being a Clinton supporter and the hours in Sanders heavy districts being restricted?
Oh yeah, those guys need tin foil hats....

concreteblue

(626 posts)
78. Not insinuation at all. Facts
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

Which, if Clinton supporters cared about AT ALL, you would be demanding an investigation. but, since it benefits your hero, you will ignore the facts, and even ridicule anyone who dares to point this out. Vote Republican already and be done with it.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
88. So, you agree that there is enough evidence
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

To warrant suspicion of election fraud? And you are fine with an investigation wherever it leads? Good

concreteblue

(626 posts)
110. I did not call you a republican
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:40 PM
Apr 2016

I will state, unequivocally, that anybody who looks at what has happened in AZ and NY and say there is not evidence to warrant suspicion of fraud is probably NOT a Dem.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
122. I dis
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:44 AM - Edit history (1)

I clearly stated that if you do not take election fraud seriously, you are probably not a democrat. Registration notwithstanding. And with a handle like " king of the dems" I will go out on a limb [ not really] and say I am right .

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
49. Hee, hee.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

Dick Cheney just may become the Republican candidate for president at the convention. If not draft dodger Cheney, it could be Jeb Bush and/or Mitt Romney.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
129. Of course, the question on WHY she would go to all of that trouble
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

in a state where she was ahead in the polls by double digits goes unasked.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
141. as in 3%
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

i thought dems were supposed to be the smart ones

not good at math, persay, but smarter than your average bear

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
162. Cite your outlier poll all you want,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016

if that's what helps you sleep at night. Everyone else knows the truth.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
164. melatonin infrequently helps me sleep at night
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

as does utter exhaustion

i'm open to other remedies tho

Number23

(24,544 posts)
17. "THANK YOU, NEW YORK!!!"
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

I echo my girl's joyous declaration!!!

And you're right, that hiney whipping was SUPER fast. I guess New Yorkers just wanted to bring the pain as quickly as possible.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
43. Seriously! The relief feels wonderful.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

I was on pins and needles even though I knew!

"hiney whipping" I love your phrases, Number23

Response to Number23 (Reply #17)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
183. What an unnecessary and moronic comment
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:15 AM
Apr 2016

Less crying and more thinking would be a good place to start.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
203. What an unnecessary and moronic comment
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

Less crying and more thinking would be a good place to start.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
38. She's going to the White House
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

There's a link in HRC group to not only the county wins - but the numbers of voters. So what - Trump won? The Kasich voters will not vote for Trump. The ones in Monroe, Erie etc etc - she will get them in GE.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
64. I believe you and feel that she's already there!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:12 PM
Apr 2016

And she's working for downticket Dems, too! Please let's sweep Repubs out this fall. And, I think, about 70% of democrats say she energized the base, maybe just New York but !



LS_Editor

(893 posts)
8. Here comes Hillary Goldwater.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

This is absurd. The Democratic Party has been taken over by conservative elements, and they are being cheered.

LS_Editor

(893 posts)
32. Don't worry. She'll be using those and ground troops in her first term.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

Just look at her foreign policy experience. It's full of lessons about what not to do.

Iraq, Honduras, Libya...

McKim

(2,412 posts)
185. More Wars and More Pain Around the World
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:31 AM
Apr 2016

She will mean death and destruction around the world. How very sad. What a moral disaster this country is. She never saw a war or an intervention she didn't like.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
206. I beg to differ...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

What one can say is that Hillary Clinton has far more foreign policy experience and a deeper network of advisers than any of her competitors. On the flip side, in a meeting with unappealing looking, bad habits Bernard Sanders, was clearly disinterested and thinly briefed on foreign issues.

LS_Editor

(893 posts)
207. How do you beg to differ?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

You say she has far more experience than any of her competitors. That does nothing to counter my argument. Neither does the claim she has a deeper network of advisers. Look at the results of her foreign policy decisions.

Even more amusing, having completely failed to address my argument, you jump to attacking Bernie Sanders.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
208. I would trust,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton more than any other candidate running for office.

What about HER foreign policy experience? Can you explain, please. Her experience is rather good. Not that bad as the haters and media churn out those untruths would make it to be.

I get it. Studying politics for many years and lived through the 90s, the Clintons were made a mockery by the Republican party and still are doing it. Their lies, their faux scandals, their books written about them, all lies to make Hillary look bad. Have to hand it to the R party, they are good at cheating to get ahead.

Of course she/Hillary voted for the Iraq war along with many other politicians. Why? The Bush Administration lied upon lie to make their story look good. Persuasion works. What do people want -- blood! Yes, I guess so. Hillary has apologized many, many times over.

The crux is, and it goes way back to Condi Rice and how she lied under oath to Congress. Yes, Under oath, Miss Rice lied through her teeth. She , Bush and Cheney should be locked up in prison for that.

Hillary, and I really hope so, will make a good president! I know it is not over yet, but the numbers are adding up in her favor.

Bernard isn't too happy. What is his next step? Cheat his way to win the election by persuading delegates to switch sides. Am putting Bernard in the same category with Trump. They both did not want to fight for their country during the Viet Nam war. One registered as a *conscientious objector* (Bernard) plus got his girlfriend pregnant, and has an illigitmate son; the other is a draft dodger many times over And these two want to run our country!

Okay, this comment got a little bit too long.

Response to msongs (Reply #22)

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
23. When did THAT happen?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:54 PM
Apr 2016

The minute you decided that anyone to the right of Che Guevara is a conservative element?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
68. The Democratic Party is as far apart from Progressives
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

as the Republican Party is from Democrats.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
169. Anything but Democrat.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:29 AM
Apr 2016

If "The Democratic Party is as far apart from Progressives as the Republican Party is from Democrats", he is betraying his progressive principles when he associates himself with this bastion of third way neoliberal establishment bastion.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
174. You seem to make great effort to demonstrate the other poster's point for him.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:34 AM
Apr 2016

But no, I'm pretty sure you'd be having a real conniption if Sanders were running as an independent or third party candidate. Oof, what a mess THAT would be.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
177. This message is brought to you by the word "sarcasm"
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

And I am not discounting the possibility that the sore loser will run as an independent anyway.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
172. Anything but Democrat.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:31 AM
Apr 2016

If "The Democratic Party is as far apart from Progressives as the Republican Party is from Democrats", he betrays his progressive principles by associating himself with this third way neoliberal establishment bastion.

RogerM

(150 posts)
9. 61.5% to 39.5% with 41% in
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

ABC News and NBC News have projected Clinton the winner of the Democratic primary.

Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
116. Hillary won N.J. in 2008. She'll win it again in 2016.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

I just feel bad for those young people who put their heart and soul into campaigning and voting for Sanders.

Your girl will have a tough time winning them over in the GE.

 
123. This is why Trump was placed as opposition.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know if Clinton can defeat Cruz or Rubio in the GE but my dead father could defeat Trump in November from his pine box.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
14. American corrupt status quo won tonight.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:48 PM
Apr 2016

8 more years of corrupt elections favoring the Republicans.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
51. By more than 20 points, no less!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

Pretty embarrassing for the small money, no?

Speaking of big money: Bernie outspent Hillary in NY by 2 to 1!

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
61. WHy do u hate democracy and America?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

WHy do u favor big money candidates? ANd Hillary is guilty. DO u really think the banks will be broken up now? Or any corruption will end?

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
72. Ask someone to buy you a dictionary. Then look up "democracy".
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

Then consider 60% of the vote vs 40% of the vote.

Then ask yourself who really hates democracy.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
77. Thanks to the big money corporate media
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

The old Dems only watch tie big money corporate media so what do you expect.?

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
91. No, the media that spent most time reporting on Hillary
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:31 PM
Apr 2016

I dont care if Bernie spent 10 times more for ads. He did it with the PEOPLE"S money, not the big banksters money.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
101. So he took from the poor
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

And gave to the rich at a rate 2x faster than Clinton.

He literally took donations from poor people and gave it to companies like Comcast, then lost the election.

Hillary is managing her money much better than Sanders.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
112. ANd who is the one who promises to END this corrupt media campaign system?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

Not Hillary, thats for sure. And that system obviously favors the corrupt Republicans.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
124. That would be Bernie, allright. All he does is promise.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

But no clue about how to deliver on his promises.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
140. Bernie's coattails are longer than Hill's.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

That means he'll get record youth turnout to vote and they'll vote in more Dems. He'll also keep up the pressure on the system to change. That dies when he loses.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
214. Evidence of that?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:20 PM
Apr 2016

In the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, 12% of Sanders voters did not vote in the Supreme Court race (same ballot)
Only 4% of the Clinton Voters did not.


Seems like Clinton has better coattails than Sanders.



Sanders voters are only interested in voting for him. Screw the rest.


 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
143. is voter suppression
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

"democracy"

hell i didn't get to vote, not because of shady tricks like CHANGING VOTER REGISTRATIONS but because they don't explain the rules for the absentee ballots.

i figured out what i was supposed to do after several phonecalls and a 30 minute internet search.

yeah this is democracy.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
145. "An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people" - T. Jefferson
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:33 PM
Apr 2016

Deal with it. And quit blaming someone else for your shortcomings.

You might also want to inform yourself on the remedies made available to all Democrats who had their voter registration changed.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
147. i think i'm missing your point
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:39 PM
Apr 2016

are you saying "check this box for an annual application" means something else than "apply now for the rest of the year"?

i want the educated person's opinion

if you're mocking me for being disabled then that's something else entirely

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
160. I am saying no one is under obligation to explain.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016


It is your responsibility as a citizen to learn what it takes to make your vote count.

And Jefferson concurs.
 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
161. if the ballot application says one thing and means another
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:15 AM
Apr 2016

does that mean i'm stupid, or the text is misleading?

you're right tho, we don't have an explicit right to vote. i'm disturbed but not surprised that you seem to be okay with this.

Response to redruddyred (Reply #143)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
15. She damn sure did. Seemed like within 30 minutes of the polls closing she was already being declared
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:48 PM
Apr 2016

the winner.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
21. Yes!!!!!!!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:53 PM
Apr 2016

What's even more gratifying is that it was a "yuuuge" win.

Early birthday gift for myself (it's tomorrow).

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
28. Someone by the name of 'litlbilly', a few weeks ago pretty much told me...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie was surging and would definitely win NY because of the momentum of the previous caucuses.

Not tonight... Momentum halted.

As I've said before, I'm voting blue no matter who.

I'm not trying to dig at Sanders supporters, but everyone needs to chill.

Congratulations to Secretary Clinton.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
30. If she wins, Republican Obstructionism against her will be thrice as bad as it was against Obama.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

I wish us all luck in the midterms. Otherwise, this is truly for naught.

And Bernie's still not out. We're going all the way to the convention.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
47. CNN just said she had more than 60% in Queens overall and the same or higher
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

in all the NYC boroughs.

Including 60% in Brooklyn.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
42. Argentina elected the worlds first woman president.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

So... Not much of a giant leap but, good work voting a "feminist" who will consider compromising on a woman's right to choose.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
62. Yes!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

But so was reading comprehension. Try it, you might learn that I never doubted any numbers in my previous statement so bringing up math is irrelevant. lol

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
71. And here's the question that always ends these conversations.... Ahem...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

How is Hillary going to work with the Republican congress any better than Obama or Bernie?

I'll wait.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
79. She's not proposing major changes like Sanders. She will be able to horse trade with Republicans.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

More numbers for you. It's all about a 5-4 Left leaning Supreme Court. That's the new Legislative Branch.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
80. Did we elect that new Supreme Court Justice yet?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:25 PM
Apr 2016

Also, seriously, how can she, more hated than Obama trade any horses with Republicans? You mean by compromising on a womans right to choose?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
85. You think Republicans would have loved Sanders any more ?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:28 PM
Apr 2016

Demographic changes will force the Republicans to keep the Congress tied up. All the action will come from the Judicial Branch. Sanders was selling you fairy tales.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
95. Bernie has a better record of working across the aisle...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary gets films made about how they see her as a criminal.

Now really, who's going to work better with Republicans? Stop dreaming.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
105. giving republicans a bit too much credit there
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

To a Republican...

Obama was a socialist.

And they'll call Hillary the same.

At least Bernie owned it.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
200. Horse trade with the Republicans? What's she going to give away to them this time?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

Because the left ALWAYS get's fucked every time some "horse trading" is done, it seems.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
189. If you're thinking of Isabel Peron, she succeeded to their presidency because she was vice-president
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:27 AM
Apr 2016
for her husband, who died. I think Vigdís Finnbogadóttir of Iceland has the better claim to be the world's first elected woman president.

Khellendross

(28 posts)
50. Love how everyone...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

is crowing "wooo, she won!" in a closed primary, with some of the most restrictive voting rules in the country.

If its the best you can do....

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
90. I agree....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:31 PM
Apr 2016

The idea of allowing only registered democratic party voters to select the democratic candidate for an office is just scandalous, SCANDALOUS, I say!

Mary Mac

(323 posts)
217. id like to restrict primaries to those who vote in midterms.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

But perhaps that is a little harsh. I'm still cross with all the Obama voters who didn't show up for midterms to stop the gerrymandering republicans.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
52. Current count at 10 PM is still only 51% of the total votes cast have been reported out.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:06 PM
Apr 2016

presently it is 59.3% Clinton v 40.7% Sanders

Loki

(3,825 posts)
55. Thank you New York!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:07 PM
Apr 2016

We will have a woman as president and we will win seats in the house and senate. Yes we can!!!

Stryst

(714 posts)
73. I'm disapointed in the results. I'm a Bernie supporter but I'd vote for Clinton over any GOPer
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

I'd rather have Clinton in the White House than Cruz or Trump, but I will never forgive her for her pro-Iraq invasion vote or her public denouncement of marriage equality. As angry as I am that war was good enough for our kids but not hers, I still don't think that she will authorize the kinds of use of force that Cruz or Trump have already promised to.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
74. Hope the righties haven't used up all their hate.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

Looks like they are going to have another eight years of hate to spread.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
76. She's a disgusting fraud
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

I almost was turned away at the polls, finally getting sent to another school, before I was told they couldn't find my name. I don't hate many people, but she is one I do deeply.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
102. I did, after 40 minutes of arguing
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

I've been voting in every election since the 90's and I was treated like a liar. They finally let me vote by affidavit, they probably won't even count it any way.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
104. She turned you away at the polls. She sent you to another school. She struck your name from the
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

records.

I understand your anger.

Mary Mac

(323 posts)
218. maybe but it is a different base.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

I think it is charming that Bernie Sanders draws like a flower power crowd. I'll give him that accolade.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

c588415

(285 posts)
121. It's time for Hillary to start shopping for new curtains for the Oval Office.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

After all, she is the chosen 1, and will win it all .

Response to c588415 (Reply #121)

c588415

(285 posts)
139. Clinton is my candidate! I do not support Trump or his orangutang hair piece
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

I hate to gloat, but Clinton, the chosen 1, will win it all

MonteSS

(5 posts)
127. How does she win when Bernie pretty much wins 90% of all counties
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:02 PM
Apr 2016

I am confused how she wins when it looks like Bernie wins most of the state counties. It looks like she only wins NYC, Rochester, Buffalo, and that is pretty much the major cities.

[link:http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-04-19#NY-Dem|

riversedge

(70,243 posts)
130. It is the number of voters and or the population that matters. Looking at all that blue
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

is less populated.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
133. Same way Democrats win general elections over Republicans under a swath of red.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:08 PM
Apr 2016

People vote. Not acres.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
176. Acreage doesn't count for votes
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

Apparently the margin in Buffalo was less than 300 votes, too. Neat stuff, that.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
134. Funny thing happening to Bernie's campaign right now.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

They are openly talkling about defying the will of the people and trying to stir trouble with super delegates.

Oh, the irony!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
149. I would be impressed if NY allowed the people to vote in primaries. But this is no victory.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016

It is a poll of registered Dems.

Wibly

(613 posts)
151. How exactly did
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

"We do it".
What was involved?
Why were so many people unable to vote?
Who caused that, and why?

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
159. "We did it" by winning NY. Getting more votes than Bernie is what was involved,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

"Why were so many people unable to vote?"
"Who caused that, and why?"

Good questions. Perhaps you are willing to put some effort into answering them before insinuating that Hillary's victory has anything to do with the answers.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
163. As you all so happily point out...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

she only won by a few percentage points and so the delegates will be divided based on that percentage. There are more elections to come and Bernie is still HERE...and I am sending him more money.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
184. If SIXTEEN percentage points is now just a victory of a "few" points
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:19 AM
Apr 2016

I hope she whips the Repub nominee by the same margin.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
186. Sorry - I was just...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:37 AM
Apr 2016

...using the Hillary supporter statements from when Bernie won some primaries....

We don't really win in Dem primaries we sort of split by majority....so everyone is still in the game.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
187. She will pick up probably 40 more delegates from this than Sanders
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:39 AM
Apr 2016

Combined with her already formidable 220 delegate lead, this thing is pretty much over.

Chakaconcarne

(2,454 posts)
180. A year ago I would have had no problem getting behind Hillary...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

But there is just something fundamentally that bugs me about her, the way she presents herself.... She doesn't come across as real or genuine. I honestly don't know if I can check the box for her in November if she's the nominee because I don't see her much differently than any of the GOP nominees... I can't believe I could ever say this, but I could get behind someone like Rubio over Hillary. Maybe I am just looking for the same enthusiasm I had with Obama... sucks.

rury

(1,021 posts)
215. Looks like Hillary will be the Democratic nominee
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

so I'll have to vote for Jill Stein of The Green Party or write in somebody like my favorite...President Barack Obama!!
Cannot in good conscience vote for Hillary The Oligarch!

 

Rass

(112 posts)
222. Hillary is corrupt
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:24 AM
Apr 2016

Every time Hillary "wins" (she lost the majority of the counties in NY, and much more in other states) there is another dagger in the heart of the Democratic party. She will lie, cheat and steal to get to the top. She is a reflection of how corrupt they have become. If Trump wins we will have her supporters to thank for not voting for a real Democrat. I will never vote Republican-lite (Hillary) or for the oligarchs. Bernie or bust. I will write in Bernie if necessary.

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
219. This celebration in mid APRIL no less. Thank you Sen. Sanders for opening
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

so many eyes and giving us a choice! If indeed Sec. Clinton goes on to be elected President she will have you to thank for making her a better candidate. That is if she pulls off the biggest challenge of all of uniting a fractured party (sore winners won't hold her back!). Congrats all around and "May the odds be ever in your favor!"

221. Many of the Bernie supporters in this thread need more fiber in their diets.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:05 PM
Apr 2016

They can't seen to help "shit on" so many pro-Hillary threads. Childish.

 

Rass

(112 posts)
223. Election fraud
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

Winning through election fraud should be shunned. I hope the election officials in the affected counties are federally investigated.

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